Are people planning an upgrade?

[AusWolf]

u gotto give it to Nvidia. They don't just sell graphics cards - they sell dreams. On a good night sleep you can get em for free, but these masters of marketing wizardry will have you buy em.

The problem is that people think those dreams become a reality once they buy the product. Well, they don't. But people still keep dreaming.

 

[wheresmycar]

The problem is that people think those dreams become a reality once they buy the product. Well, they don't. But people still keep dreaming.

I can't wait for 60-series GPUs - x8-FG with the tagline "RTX 6060 beats the 5090". I can already hear Jensen’s voice, a sly whisper echoing in the dreams of sleeping buyers: "the more you buy, the more you save"

 

[AusWolf]

I can't wait for 60-series GPUs - x8-FG with the tagline "RTX 6060 beats the 5090". I can already hear Jensen’s voice, a sly whisper echoing in the dreams of sleeping buyers: "the more you buy, the more you save"

"RTX 6060 with 12 GB VRAM for $529, look how many frames it does in this game that I'm not gonna name." *Points at a green bar with no annotations*

 

[oxrufiioxo]

"RTX 6060 with 12 GB VRAM for $529, look how many frames it does in this game that I'm not gonna name." *Points at a green bar with no annotations*

I'm holding off till it's 69X and then I can finally blow my load......

 

[Scattergrunt]

"RTX 6060 with 12 GB VRAM for $529, look how many frames it does in this game that I'm not gonna name." *Points at a green bar with no annotations*

inb4 ten thousand frames per second with the latency of 10 FPS equalivent

 

[wheresmycar]

"RTX 6060 with 12 GB VRAM for $529, look how many frames it does in this game that I'm not gonna name." *Points at a green bar with no annotations*

12GB on a standard 60-flavour GPU? You must be kidding - if Nvidia topped 8GB, Jensen will be next spotted top-less and potentially homeless, the stock market would implode, the skies would fall, greenery would vanish from mother earth - they'd go bankrupt faster than a kid rinsing his mums credit card lol

inb4 ten thousand frames per second with the latency of 10 FPS

Thats enough time to blink. Don't worry they've got us covered. Ai-blink V1.0 coming soon.

 

[Scattergrunt]

Thats enough time to blink. Don't worry they've got us covered. Ai-blink V1.0 coming soon.

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Anyway, to seriously respond to this post..

I usually buy most of my parts used, because I'm a penny pincher / budget baller (whichever term you wish to use), the only parts I upgrade too are usually already a generation or two late. This always comes with risk, but I do enjoy that risk in a weird way.

The only upgrades I plan on doing this year is to my GPU & PSU, and thats about it. Almost scored a 4070 for 350 USD earlier this week but I just barely missed it.

 

[AusWolf]

12GB on a standard 60-flavour GPU? You must be kidding - if Nvidia topped 8GB, Jensen will be next spotted top-less and potentially homeless, the stock market would implode, the skies would fall, greenery would vanish from mother earth - they'd go bankrupt faster than a kid rinsing his mums credit card lol

That won't happen. I've got their marketing sorted out already.

 

[Braegnok]

I'm sticking with RTX 4090.

 

[wheresmycar]

I usually buy most of my parts used, because I'm a penny pincher / budget baller (whichever term you wish to use), the only parts I upgrade too are usually already a generation or two late. This always comes with risk, but I do enjoy that risk in a weird way.

With todays hypersonic skyrocketed prices, theres defo something highly satisfying with hunting down deals on previous/x2 GEN behind cards. I did the same with my 2080 Ti and 3080, purchasing both used but in excellent condition from people I know. I'd do the same today if someone had a 4070 TIS / 4080s to part with. You ain't no "penny pincher / budget baller" - just a savvy consumer steering clear of being insensibly consumed.

Almost scored a 4070 for 350 USD earlier this week but I just barely missed it.

bummer!

In that sort of price range you could opt for a comparable 6750XT/7700XT. Actually not sure about the 7700XT but i've defo seen the 6750XT going for around -/+ $350.

 

[Bagerklestyne]

Top 6-7 cards in raster performance are all nvidias, top 10+ in RT same thing.

I hope you're being funny there. #2 in the raster race is the 7900XTX trading with the 4080 Super usually with the radeon edging slightly ahead.
RT the 7900XTX languishes but it's still #6-#8 depending on the resolution from the TPU charts.

for me personally, I don't see a lot of reason to unless I get a great deal as I don't see any games I currently want to play in 2025 that need demanding hardware

Path of the Exile 2

Just FYI getting 70ish fps @ 4k with a 6800XT

 

[JustBenching]

I hope you're being funny there. #2 in the raster race is the 7900XTX trading with the 4080 Super usually with the radeon edging slightly ahead.
RT the 7900XTX languishes but it's still #6-#8 depending on the resolution from the TPU charts.

With the new cards? 5090 - 4090 - 5080 - 4080S- 4080 - 7900xtx.

Based on TPUs latest benchmark

GPU Test System Update for 2025

2025 will be busy with GPU launches, all three GPU vendors are expected to release new cards in the coming weeks and months. To prepare for this, we've upgraded our GPU Test System, with a new Ryzen X3D CPU and more. The list of games has changed substantially, too.

www.techpowerup.com

12GB on a standard 60-flavour GPU? You must be kidding - if Nvidia topped 8GB, Jensen will be next spotted top-less and potentially homeless, the stock market would implode, the skies would fall, greenery would vanish from mother earth - they'd go bankrupt faster than a kid rinsing his mums credit card lol

Totally nvidia. AMD's 60 tier has 24GB of vram.

AMD Radeon RX 7600 Specs

AMD Navi 33, 2655 MHz, 2048 Cores, 128 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR6, 2250 MHz, 128 bit

www.techpowerup.com

 

[Bagerklestyne]

With the new cards? 5090 - 4090 - 5080 - 4080S- 4080 - 7900xtx.

Based on TPUs latest benchmark

GPU Test System Update for 2025

2025 will be busy with GPU launches, all three GPU vendors are expected to release new cards in the coming weeks and months. To prepare for this, we've upgraded our GPU Test System, with a new Ryzen X3D CPU and more. The list of games has changed substantially, too.

www.techpowerup.com

Totally nvidia. AMD's 60 tier has 24GB of vram.

AMD Radeon RX 7600 Specs

AMD Navi 33, 2655 MHz, 2048 Cores, 128 TMUs, 64 ROPs, 8192 MB GDDR6, 2250 MHz, 128 bit

www.techpowerup.com

Can't count new cards yet, but to be fair the tpu table I looked at was older (the previous GPU test system), but still 3rd or 4th isn't 7/8th

 

[Scattergrunt]

In that sort of price range you could opt for a comparable 6750XT/7700XT. Actually not sure about the 7700XT but i've defo seen the 6750XT going for around -/+ $350.

7700xt Would of been my first choice or a 6800 but around my area there both around ~450 USD. I'm considering just settling for a 3070Ti because its more readily available for the price point im looking at despite its unfortunate lack of vram.

After that, I'm definitely switching out my PSU to something alot less at risk of causing a potential housefire ASAP.

With todays hypersonic skyrocketed prices, theres defo something highly satisfying with hunting down deals on previous/x2 GEN behind cards. I did the same with my 2080 Ti and 3080, purchasing both used but in excellent condition from people I know. I'd do the same today if someone had a 4070 TIS / 4080s to part with. You ain't no "penny pincher / budget baller" - just a savvy consumer steering clear of being insensibly consumed.

There's something very satisfying with applying my knowledge in a way that gets me good deals, especially when it lets me score stuff such as my 5800x which I sniped for ~120 bucks.

 

[wheresmycar]

Totally nvidia. AMD's 60 tier has 24GB of vram.

Wow! AMDs being overly generous to your planet - where in the milky way galaxy are you? Free shipping to mother earth?

7700xt Would of been my first choice or a 6800 but around my area there both around ~450 USD. I'm considering just settling for a 3070Ti because its more readily available for the price point im looking at despite its unfortunate lack of vram.

If you prefer BNIW - this 12GB 6750XT bad boy - going for $320 with performance comparable to a 3070 TI / 7700XT: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B34M1YLW?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

There's something very satisfying with applying my knowledge in a way that gets me good deals, especially when it lets me score stuff such as my 5800x which I sniped for ~120 bucks.

Agreed. I ended up going with an AM4-5800X3D way after AM5 launched. I snagged it for around £250 (waited long enough for prices to drop), though I wouldn’t have paid more than £200 since I’m mostly GPU-limited. That said, the 3D cache really shines in a couple of CPU-bound games I play (it was made for Tarkov)

I’m still puzzled by the performance hype surrounding the $500'ish/+ (half a flippin grand+) current-gen X3D CPUs - it’s madness! I’d wager most of us wouldn’t notice a meaningful difference beyond 90–120 FPS. Anyway, i'm playing that "i'm totally sensible" card... guilty as charged, i do occasionally fancy splurging. Never intended, always an impulsive kick in the teeth when its time to upgrade.

BTW, 5800X for $120 - thats a steal!!

 

[Scattergrunt]

If you prefer BNIW - this 12GB 6750XT bad boy - going for $320 with performance comparable to a 3070 TI / 7700XT: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B34M1YLW?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1

Will check out.

Agreed. I ended up going with an AM4-5800X3D way after AM5 launched. I snagged it for around £250 (waited long enough for prices to drop), though I wouldn’t have paid more than £200 since I’m mostly GPU-limited. That said, the 3D cache really shines in a couple of CPU-bound games I play (it was made for Tarkov)

I didnt particularly need the 3D VCache personally as the base ryzen chips provide more than enough for me as is. I do really like them though.

I’m still puzzled by the performance hype surrounding the $500'ish/+ (half a flippin grand+) current-gen X3D CPUs - it’s madness! I’d wager most of us wouldn’t notice a meaningful difference beyond 90–120 FPS. Anyway, i'm playing that "i'm totally sensible" card... guilty as charged, i do occasionally fancy splurging. Never intended, always an impulsive kick in the teeth when its time to upgrade.

The 9800X3D is geuinenly pretty cool, I wasn't super hyped about 7800X3D (though I did like it, just wasnt hyped for it), but the 9800X3D is pretty hypeable imo. As it isnt just a boosted 7800X3D, there are other changes which I find really intersting. Me personally, I rarely splurge, unless its something that looks cool.

BTW, 5800X for $120 - thats a steal!!

Open box too. CPU was never even opened from the clamshell (as far as I could tell), which was insane.

 

[AusWolf]

The 9800X3D is geuinenly pretty cool, I wasn't super hyped about 7800X3D (though I did like it, just wasnt hyped for it), but the 9800X3D is pretty hypeable imo. As it isnt just a boosted 7800X3D, there are other changes which I find really intersting. Me personally, I rarely splurge, unless its something that looks cool.

Interesting, I feel the opposite way. The 7800X3D is an extremely fast, extremely efficient and easy to cool CPU. Sure, the 9800 is a wee bit faster, but with double the max power consumption, and a bit more heat as well. I'm not very impressed.

 

[Bagerklestyne]

Interesting, I feel the opposite way. The 7800X3D is an extremely fast, extremely efficient and easy to cool CPU. Sure, the 9800 is a wee bit faster, but with double the max power consumption, and a bit more heat as well. I'm not very impressed.

I really want to see a clock for clock on the 7800X3D vs 9800X3D

I'm on a 7800 and the 9800 isn't a big enough leap for me to want to upgrade, the flip of the chip and 3D v-cache allowing it to overclock markedly better is a nice touch. I need 20-30% uptick in IPC (ideally 50%) before I'd consider upgrading, so it's possible I might not be swayed by Zen 6.

Sadly, I don't think AMD is going to win me over here from my 6800XT either. I want 7900XTX raster with the suggested promised RT uptick (so basically 4080/super) before I'd pull the trigger at a healthy price (doesn't need to be bargain basement, but it's needs to be competitive to better value in raster) which in my eyes equates to about a 20% better fps per dollar than 4080/7900XTX for one of the just announced cards or 25-30% discount on the current generation (since I have to buy older hardware)

Not likely to tick my criteria by either of the major GPU teams I think.

 

[PlutoidRepublic]

Yep! ive been using a 3070 since early 2022, and seek to get a 5070 or maybe 5070TI, 2 gen upgrade, but that will probably be the last "upgrade" i need, tbh, ill also be going from i7 12700K to either ultra 7 265K (even though Arrow isn't the king of launches, compared to alder its a godsend) OR some X3D

 

[phanbuey]

Wow! AMDs being overly generous to your planet - where in the milky way galaxy are you? Free shipping to mother earth?



If you prefer BNIW - this 12GB 6750XT bad boy - going for $320 with performance comparable to a 3070 TI / 7700XT: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0B34M1YLW?tag=pcpapi-20&linkCode=ogi&th=1&psc=1



Agreed. I ended up going with an AM4-5800X3D way after AM5 launched. I snagged it for around £250 (waited long enough for prices to drop), though I wouldn’t have paid more than £200 since I’m mostly GPU-limited. That said, the 3D cache really shines in a couple of CPU-bound games I play (it was made for Tarkov)

I’m still puzzled by the performance hype surrounding the $500'ish/+ (half a flippin grand+) current-gen X3D CPUs - it’s madness! I’d wager most of us wouldn’t notice a meaningful difference beyond 90–120 FPS. Anyway, i'm playing that "i'm totally sensible" card... guilty as charged, i do occasionally fancy splurging. Never intended, always an impulsive kick in the teeth when its time to upgrade.

BTW, 5800X for $120 - thats a steal!!

I mean - half a grand these days is like 2 runs to the grocery store - if you have a graphics card that's over a grand then then that CPU is relatively cheap, especailly if you're going to keep it around for 2 years - the x3d chips tend to age pretty well.

But yeah everything is expensive af.

Yep! ive been using a 3070 since early 2022, and seek to get a 5070 or maybe 5070TI, 2 gen upgrade, but that will probably be the last "upgrade" i need, tbh, ill also be going from i7 12700K to either ultra 7 265K (even though Arrow isn't the king of launches, compared to alder its a godsend) OR some X3D

I would check the benchmarks there - it's faster than a 12700k but not by any meaningful margin. You could probably drop a 5070ti or 5080 since you save $$ on not buying arrow in that system and call it a day.

 

[wolf]

The 9800X3D is genuinely pretty cool

Love my 9800X3D, it's absolutely blazing fast. the 7800X3D wasn't compelling enough for me to move up from from the 5800X3D but the 9800X3D nudged that nicely more forward and has made for an insane feeling upgrade. I make no secret of being happy to tweak products to my tastes, and this has been about as fast and breezy as it gets too, +200 offset, -30 all core CO, Buildzoid timings for my Hynix memory and a little bump on the FCLK and she's absolutely humming along. Cool, quiet and just shreddingly fast in games. The 7800X3D is of course no slouch and seems to hit it's sweetspot better "out of the box", but if you're happy to spend like 10 minutes in the BIOS a 9800X3D is worth it IMO buying today. I think it makes zero sense for a 7800X3D current owner.

 

[dgianstefani]

Interesting, I feel the opposite way. The 7800X3D is an extremely fast, extremely efficient and easy to cool CPU. Sure, the 9800 is a wee bit faster, but with double the max power consumption, and a bit more heat as well. I'm not very impressed.

I have mine locked at 5.55 GHz in a manual OC at 1.23 V, it has actual second gen V-Cache and the wider cores of Zen 5 which aren't immediately obvious in gaming benchmarks currently. A big leap from Zen 4, just not at stock. The 7800X3D Is only efficient because it's forced to run low volts from first gen V-Cache, not by AMD's choice. As for heat and power draw it's irrelevant and entirely dependent on settings, just like Zen 4.

About to tune a 6600 MT/32 64 GB white Dominator Titanium kit that's arriving today. Got some TG Putty Pro to keep it cooler than stock.

 

[AusWolf]

I have mine locked at 5.55 GHz in a manual OC at 1.23 V, it has actual second gen V-Cache and the wider cores of Zen 5 which aren't immediately obvious in gaming benchmarks currently. A big leap from Zen 4, just not at stock. The 7800X3D Is only efficient because it's forced to run low volts from first gen V-Cache, not by AMD's choice. As for heat and power draw it's irrelevant and entirely dependent on settings, just like Zen 4.

Yeah, the 7800X3D barely crosses 1 V on the cores. It is set up extremely conservatively by default, but that's why I love it. The 9800 is maybe 10% faster, but with 100% higher power. Wider cores and new V-cache sound nice on paper, but I'm a practical person. If I gave out an innovation award regardless of real-world use, then Bulldozer would be the best CPU in the world, and chiplet RDNA 3 the best GPU architecture of all times. The only thing that impresses me in the 9800 is that it can still be cooled relatively well despite the massive jump in power (although the 7800 is still easier).

 

[micropage7]

the last time i upgrade is about one year ago, but overall i haven't upgraded any at all

 

[Ruru]

I'll be getting two 32GB DDR4 kits from my friend. One to double the RAM on my main rig, one for my 2nd PC, dunno should I just let it have 48GB or should I use its current 16GB for my spare Skylake platform to have a faster spare PC...