Are people planning an upgrade?

[GodisanAtheist]

The 980ti in my steambox is getting tired, even at 1080p. Only ran Hogwarts Legacy thanks to FSR, and even Horizon Zero Dawn non-remaster was making it sweat pretty bad over medium settings which was a bit of a wake up call.

So I have two approaches.

One is to snag ideally something 3060ti/3070 class for ~$200 shipped and drop it in.

Another is to move my 6800xt from my main PC to the 'box and then try and snag something 7900xtx/4080 class for a good price (~$400) but given the paltry performance bump and meager price cut to the 5xxx series I doubt I'll be able to pull that off.

 

[AusWolf]

The 980ti in my steambox is getting tired, even at 1080p. Only ran Hogwarts Legacy thanks to FSR, and even Horizon Zero Dawn non-remaster was making it sweat pretty bad over medium settings which was a bit of a wake up call.

So I have two approaches.

One is to snag ideally something 3060ti/3070 class for ~$200 shipped and drop it in.

Another is to move my 6800xt from my main PC to the 'box and then try and snag something 7900xtx/4080 class for a good price (~$400) but given the paltry performance bump and meager price cut to the 5xxx series I doubt I'll be able to pull that off.

You probably won't get a 7900 XTX (people won't sell it for a 9070 XT), but you might be able to get a 4080 at a good price when people jump ship for the 50-series.

 

[Super Firm Tofu]

Probably not. I prepared for a 5090 (assuming it wasn't going to be $3K) and a 9950X3D but I've kinda lost any desire for an upgrade at this point.

Another is to move my 6800xt from my main PC to the 'box and then try and snag something 7900xtx/4080 class for a good price (~$400) but given the paltry performance bump and meager price cut to the 5xxx series I doubt I'll be able to pull that off.

Yeah, Newegg is still offering $700 as trade-in value for a 7900XTX, and $799 for a 4080 so $400 probably isn't going to happen.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Probably not. I prepared for a 5090 (assuming it wasn't going to be $3K) and a 9950X3D but I've kinda lost any desire for an upgrade at this point.

9950X3D not having dual cache ccd was a huge bummer so AMD better have it's scheduling completely sorted...

The Nvidia conference was hard to even watch if I was doing generative AI I would have been pretty hard though....

I'm still excited for reviews though and to see other forum members put the cards to work.

 

[AusWolf]

9950X3D not having dual cache ccd was a huge bummer so AMD better have it's scheduling completely sorted...

I agree. I'm not sure if it's really just a switch in the BIOS like some people say, or if you need some software like Intel's thread director. Or maybe neither because the two CCDs run at the same clocks now? Too many questions that shouldn't have to be asked about a CPU, imo. I'm not stoked. Rather just stay on my 7800X3D, it's pretty much plug-and-play which I absolutely love about it.

I'm still excited for reviews though and to see other forum members put the cards to work.

Same. I'm excited about putting the new stuff to work myself as well.

I'm sure I'll be happy whichever card I buy (all I want is a performance bump on top of my 6750 XT preferably with some extra VRAM), but I'll definitely be called a fanboy if I post about it. It's getting exponentially harder to have a decent conversation which is sad. So I might just refrain from posting, we'll see.

 

[sepheronx]

my rtx 3080 is still running fine for my 1440p needs. 10700k may be the problem though but I am too lazy, poor and tired to care honestly.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I agree. I'm not sure if it's really just a switch in the BIOS like some people say, or if you need some software like Intel's thread director. Or maybe neither because the two CCDs run at the same clocks now? Too many questions that shouldn't have to be asked about a CPU, imo. I'm not stoked. Rather just stay on my 7800X3D, it's pretty much plug-and-play which I absolutely love about it.


Same. I'm excited about putting the new stuff to work myself as well.

I'm sure I'll be happy whichever card I buy (all I want is a performance bump on top of my 6750 XT preferably with some extra VRAM), but I'll definitely be called a fanboy if I post about it. It's getting exponentially harder to have a decent conversation which is sad. So I might just refrain from posting, we'll see.

I might give people on both sides a hard time but in all honestly I enjoy listening to people passionate about hardware... I miss the early days when I didn't have a lot of disposable income and had to really think long and hard about which hardware was going to go into my builds, where I could save a few bucks and just in general being super excited to see new hardware launches. Now I'm like what are these companies going to try and pull out of their a$$ this time lol.

We need the super passionate Intel/AMD/Nvidia people but the best outcome is when all 3 companies are giving us good shit.


A good example is I absolutely hate the 4070ti 12GB but that doesn't change the fact that I hope anyone who owns one has had an amazing two years and has more good times with it to come.

 

[Apocalypsee]

My 2060 Super started to looks tired on newer titles, 8GB VRAM and not much firepower. I planning to go at least 4070. There seems to be 'panic selling' people who sees 5000 series pricing now selling their old GPU for cheap, I see good prices for 3000 series cards, 3080 started to look good value for it's performance but since I use that card before (and know it's power draw and heat) I hold off first.

 

[GodisanAtheist]

I might give people on both sides a hard time but in all honestly I enjoy listening to people passionate about hardware... I miss the early days when I didn't have a lot of disposable income and had to really think long and hard about which hardware was going to go into my builds, where I could save a few bucks and just in general being super excited to see new hardware launches. Now I'm like what are these companies going to try and pull out of their a$$ this time lol.

We need the super passionate Intel/AMD/Nvidia people but the best outcome is when all 3 companies are giving us good shit.


A good example is I absolutely hate the 4070ti 12GB but that doesn't change the fact that I hope anyone who owns one has had an amazing two years and has more good times with it to come.

-Can still be this way. I can afford to buy pretty much whatever nowadays, but I like to make a game of deal hunting.

My main rig was built entirely out of used parts back in 2022 for $1100 for what would have been a $3000 machine a few months earlier.

My steam box is all handed down from my prior main rig or used as well.

That's where I get my jollies now.

 

[Macro Device]

Definitely will upgrade my peripherals such as keyboard, DAC, display, and headphones. Also might buy a high end NVIDIA GPU but I'm really not sure if 5080 will be enough. Need benchmarks to see if it's worth it. 5090 will suffice but its price... I'm not a billionaire.

 

[AusWolf]

I might give people on both sides a hard time but in all honestly I enjoy listening to people passionate about hardware... I miss the early days when I didn't have a lot of disposable income and had to really think long and hard about which hardware was going to go into my builds, where I could save a few bucks and just in general being super excited to see new hardware launches. Now I'm like what are these companies going to try and pull out of their a$$ this time lol.

The funny thing is that I used to buy a lot less hardware back when you had to upgrade every year than now when you can easily get by for 5-6 years without touching your PC.

We need the super passionate Intel/AMD/Nvidia people but the best outcome is when all 3 companies are giving us good shit.

I think we need just people who take every product at face value, choose what's best for them, and don't root for anyone or anything other than good competition, good performance and good price. But I know it's a bit too much to ask in today's polarised world.

I miss the days when every new hardware was exciting for everyone, and buying them didn't put you into a box where half of the people have become hostile to you without you even saying a word.

A good example is I absolutely hate the 4070ti 12GB but that doesn't change the fact that I hope anyone who owns one has had an amazing two years and has more good times with it to come.

A respectable opinion. Personally, I despise of the price hike that Nvidia is doing with the Titan x90 cards. Sell them for thousands of $ just to make VRAM-lacking x80 and x70 prices look slightly better. My price limit for a GPU used to be £300 ten years ago, it's £500 now. Considering inflation and the pitiful pay rises I've gone through (basically none if you compare it to prices out there), I think it's alright. I don't want to spend more on a toy. But I don't have a problem with those who have a 4090 because they want the best (only if they brag about it). I'll never understand why my opinion on products and companies has to be taken as a personal attack by some.

 

[inquisitor1]

I like letting others carry the brunt of the beta price. then get it at less then 50% 2-3 years later.

I never buy into hype or run after the newest.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

A respectable opinion. Personally, I despise of the price hike that Nvidia is doing with the Titan x90 cards. Sell them for thousands of $ just to make VRAM-lacking x80 and x70 prices look slightly better. My price limit for a GPU used to be £300 ten years ago, it's £500 now. Considering inflation and the pitiful pay rises I've gone through (basically none if you compare it to prices out there), I think it's alright. I don't want to spend more on a toy. But I don't have a problem with those who have a 4090 because they want the best (only if they brag about it). I'll never understand why my opinion on products and companies has to be taken as a personal attack by some.

I mean are people who don't have 4090s even gamers....... lol All joking aside there will always be people on the RED/Green/Blue side it's just human nature I bet there are even people who are begrudgingly rocking 9800X3D because intel has lost it's way at least when it comes to holding the gaming performance crown....

Honestly I wish the 4090 was 500 usd and that has zero to do with me getting it cheaper I would just love more gamers to have experience with that type of performance it would also be actual progress and would likely lead to more games using advanced features etc. I wish Nvidia wasn't full of it and the 5070 actually did beat the 4090 for 550 and raw performance regardless of what I paid for it a generation ago.

 

[Macro Device]

good example is I absolutely hate the 4070ti 12GB

That's a great GPU overall. Kinda low on RAM bandwidth but it's alright. Just priced a major bit too extreme. Thanks AMD for not participating in the arms race. Would've been a real gem if cost about 550 USD at launch and was discounted to 400ish by today.

The funny thing is that I used to buy a lot less hardware back when you had to upgrade every year than now when you can easily get by for 5-6 years without touching your PC.

And I'm becoming slower and slower. Now I've got a GPU that lasted me two years. Was unheard of back in a day.

 

[mama]

I was planning an upgrade anyway because my current GPU is showing some weakness in the newest games. The fact that we learned bugger all about anything at CES doesn't matter to me, I want real benchmarks before I pull the trigger anyway.

I would gladly share what I'm interested in, but angry fans would jump at my throat from left and right, and I've grown a tad tired of fending off tribal crap, to be honest.

How about you?

I don't really need an upgrade but if something makes sense, I will look at changing up. Like you, I will wait for third party testing.

5090 and Optimus block.

Now that's a plan! Have you tried an Optimus block previously?

 

[AusWolf]

I mean are people who don't have 4090s even gamers....... lol All joking aside there will always be people on the RED/Green/Blue side it's just human nature I bet there are even people who are begrudgingly rocking 9800X3D because intel has lost it's way at least when it comes to holding the gaming performance crown....

Sure, but it's been worse than ever lately.

I can talk about why I have a 7800X3D, that it's super efficient, easy to cool, and snappy as well, and that I don't want to deal with Intel's heterogenous core and thread director thing (nor AMD's in fact)... Bam! I'm an AMD fanboy immediately.

I can talk about why I have an AMD GPU, that it's cheaper at the same performance level, that I don't care about upscaling, and that I don't support in-house technologies that bind you to one maker's hardware... Bam, AMD fanboy!

Or what if I talk about the fact that I've had lots of Intel, Nvidia and AMD hardware in my life, that I was on intel + Nvidia for roughly 7 years before I built my current rig, and that my two HTPCs are both Intel + Nvidia... Oh no, people don't want to hear about such things because I'm an AMD fanboy, right? Or am I an Intel and Nvidia fanboy? I can't follow these things anymore. I guess I'm everything.

Honestly I wish the 4090 was 500 usd and that has zero to do with me getting it cheaper I would just love more gamers to have experience with that type of performance it would also be actual progress and would likely lead to more games using advanced features etc. I wish Nvidia wasn't full of it and the 5070 actually did beat the 4090 for 550 and raw performance regardless of what I paid for it a generation ago.

I don't mind if the 909999 XT Pro Ultra Ti Super costs 10 grand. I just want good value for £500 from both companies. And no locked features. I want freedom of choice.

I also wish for people to have some critical thinking skills and properly look at products from every angle before they piss their pants in excitement just because their idol has a tad shinier jacket than last year.

Disclaimer: it might seem like I'm giving Nvidia more crap than AMD, but that's only because I'm in more agreement with the way AMD does business lately. But I acknowledge that both of them make good products and neither are my friend. I always try to keep an open mind as it's within my best interest.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

I don't mind if the 909999 XT Pro Ultra Ti Super costs 10 grand. I just want good value for £500 from both companies. And no locked features. I want freedom of choice.

Features don't bother me these companies invest in stuff and they want people to use that stuff on their hardware the only reason it's been less with AMD is because they don't have the market share to get away with it.... In a perfect world everything would work on everything but investing into new stuff wouldn't make sense for nvidia if it wasn't either better or locked to their hardware... Still Turing has been out for over half a decade at this point and is still getting updated DLSS SR/DLAA/DLSS RR which is honestly pretty nice.

I liked AMDs Tress FX/Purehair I honestly though AMD should have kept at it and though it was generally better than hairworks although neither company seems interested in that anymore just FG and upscaling....

Sure, but it's been worse than ever lately.

It's always been bad even worse in the early ryzen days when you had the Blue/Green for life brigade....Oh and the Userbenchmark simps were pretty fun as well.

Disclaimer: it might seem like I'm giving Nvidia more crap than AMD, but that's only because I'm in more agreement with the way AMD does business lately. But I acknowledge that both of them make good products and neither are my friend. I always try to keep an open mind as it's within my best interest.

That is only because they are in no position to do otherwise although 7900XT shows they will at least try and be Nvidia.... If they did offer a better than 5090 card you better believe it would cost more same all the way down the stack.

The 5600X is a good example the minute AMD was slightly better we got the 300 usd 6 core......

 

[DirtyDingusMcgee]

I always plan to......the timetable just keeps moving around

 

[JoeTheDestroyer]

My 2080Ti is getting a bit long in the tooth, so I'm in the market for an upgrade.

I've been wanting to get back into some AI work, so I can somewhat justify the ridiculous price of the 5090 by having it pull double duty.

CPU I'm good on, already on Zen4 (7950x3d) so I have no interest in Zen5. Probably will look at Zen6 when it rolls around, but whether it'll be a day 1 upgrade or a lifesupport upgrade to keep my AM5 system going (presumably after Zen7+ has pushed prices down), I don't know.

5090 and Optimus block.

Has there been any news on an Optimus block?

I have an Optimus block on my cpu, and I'm mostly happy with it except how long I had to wait to get it.

If I had to wait 6 months to get a block for a new 5090, I'd probably just go with the announced Alphacool blocks that are said to be available on blackwell's launch day.

 

[Macro Device]

I'm in more agreement with the way AMD does business lately

They always underdeliver and they never innovated anything GPU related with a single exception (RDNA2, Infinity Cache) in decades so I'm definitely not. Just plain low quality copycatting with "but it's open source!" sauce at the very best. Do I need to care for it being open source if it's so garbage I can't even enjoy it in 99% scenarios? Pricing is also ridiculous. Being 2+ generations behind on everything that's not raw raster performance means anything but the 5 to 10 % discount is enough.

So unless AMD sell their dGPU division to anyone who actually CARES, I'm not buying their GPUs. At least for serious business. Fake frames or not, NV GPUs are just a more finished product. And they age better for the most part.

And no locked features. I want freedom of choice.

Normally, people want something that actually works. Something you'd want to enable. Something you'd look at and say, "yes, this was worth it." Locking features to your hardware means you have a much better shot in making it happen since you don't need to focus on hardware made of architecture you can only guess because you've never seen what's under the bonnet. "we wanna do X so let us implement Y hardware for that and that's it" VS "we wanna do X but the competition never made Y hardware so it's either to be emulated or to be abandoned so what do we do boss?"

When you compete there is no reason for you to allow your competition benefits of what you invented. You have a full moral right to keep it to yourself. That's why it's called, competition, not charity. NVIDIA do it right by inventing stuff (usually meaningless, at least if used as intended; but they at least provide new options almost every new generation), improving performance and constantly forcing more and more developers to try their things out so they get more reviews and more bugtraq which is crucial. AMD look like a bunch of amateurs whose main goal is to look as foolish as possible on major displays.

Freedom is great but when you're free to choose atwixt a streaming pile of shit and a bulldozed piece of frozen urine does this freedom actually count? Iunno, man.

AMD should no longer stand for "Advanced Micro Devices," they should change their backronym to "Another MayDay."

 

[Dr. Dro]

Yeah, I'm getting a 5090. I bought an RTX A2000 I got a nice deal on to use in the interim and that will also replace the GTX 1070 Ti I have on my secondary system with something RT capable. The 4080 will be getting a new home soon. It was gonna be a 6500 XT, but once I saw that one listed...

NVIDIA RTX A2000 Review - World’s Fastest ITX Card: Low-Profile and Slot-Powered

NVIDIA's RTX A2000 is the fastest graphics card that fits into a low-profile form factor. It's fast enough for 1080p Full HD Gaming at maximum details and achieves that with 75 W slot power only, which makes it even more energy-efficient than AMD's 6 and 7 nanometer RDNA2 graphics cards.

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Slot powered and quite capable for the footprint. Will be a great one to own. Just gotta find a way to get it to work with my TV though (so a mDP to HDMI converter).

 

[wolf]

Normally, people want something that actually works

Bingo, and from being able to use them all, DLSS works a hell of a lot better than FSR. Having said that, AMD can absolutely create and price a product that would have me buy it, they just need to actually do that. Not seeing how DLSS/RR/DLAA/Reflex locks me to them either, I'd change in a heartbeat if the alternative is a more compelling overall package / price.

Slot powered and quite capable for the footprint. Will be a great one to own. Just gotta find a way to get it to work with my TV though (so a mDP to HDMI converter).

LOVE my A2000, what a little bloody ripper of a card. Got it for $200 USD/$300 AUD 1-2 years ago second hand it's it's continued to impress me ever since. I use a good quality DP 1.4 to HDMI adapter and get 3840x2160@120hz w/VRR RGB to the TV it lives under too. Might be one of my favourite cards ever.

 

[Dr. Dro]

Bingo, and from being able to use them all, DLSS works a hell of a lot better than FSR. Having said that, AMD can absolutely create and price a product that would have me buy it, they just need to actually do that. Not seeing how DLSS/RR/DLAA/Reflex locks me to them either, I'd change in a heartbeat if the alternative is a more compelling overall package / price.

LOVE my A2000, what a little bloody ripper of a card. Got it for $200 USD/$300 AUD 1-2 years ago second hand it's it's continued to impress me ever since. I use a good quality DP 1.4 to HDMI adapter and get 3840x2160@120hz w/VRR RGB to the TV it lives under too. Might be one of my favourite cards ever.

Which brand of adapter is it? I reckon I can look for it here, since I haven't had much luck finding a mini DP to HDMI 2.1 cable. There is a DP to 2.1 cable, pricy, but the card comes with those mDP>DP adapters, will be my last resort if I can't get something more elegant

 

[Macro Device]

Maybe I should buy a Titan RTX just for the memes... (these go for insane prices tho; cheaper to get a 4070 Super)

 

[Nuckles56]

Bingo, and from being able to use them all, DLSS works a hell of a lot better than FSR. Having said that, AMD can absolutely create and price a product that would have me buy it, they just need to actually do that. Not seeing how DLSS/RR/DLAA/Reflex locks me to them either, I'd change in a heartbeat if the alternative is a more compelling overall package / price.

LOVE my A2000, what a little bloody ripper of a card. Got it for $200 USD/$300 AUD 1-2 years ago second hand it's it's continued to impress me ever since. I use a good quality DP 1.4 to HDMI adapter and get 3840x2160@120hz w/VRR RGB to the TV it lives under too. Might be one of my favourite cards ever.

I'm really happy with mine, that also lives under my TV, though mine was new since there were no reasonably priced second hand ones at the time