ASUS Seemingly Drops Support for AMD Ryzen 5000 Series CPUs on X470 Motherboards, the Company Responds

Hellfire · Oct 13, 2020

Vayra86 said:
Yes you make a good point in that sense. its not baby. But still, upgrading multiple times in the time frame of just 3 years now is pretty exceptional for most users. Not for enthusiasts... but as you can see by the approach of ASUS we're not a big enough group to give two flying *f*s about... And its not the first time, and its not just ASUS either.

More importantly though, do you get my point now? AMD is letting the market push decide whether their promise of support for boards/sockets is ongoing or not. AMD's just saying 'run with whatever you like' apparently, and not 'you must, you shall, provide support like we say'. The latter would be a true move towards customers and not companies. Right now its 'up in the air' and this is a mutually beneficial business decision for AMD and board partners, but not for end users. And AMD can just pass the blame to ASUS (rightly so -mind) but a better agreement with them would be a true solution.

Well hang on here.... that's a LOT of assumptions... AMD has not weighed in on the issue and Asus has not made an official response. For all we know AMD could put pressure on them and this could be news to them.

I understand where you're coming from but you're reaching and speculating a lot. based on one could end up being one 1st line tech guy's wrong response...

Vayra86 · Oct 13, 2020

Hellfire said:
Well hang on here.... that's a LOT of assumptions... AMD has not weighed in on the issue and Asus has not made an official response. For all we know AMD could put pressure on them and this could be news to them.

I understand where you're coming from but you're reaching and speculating a lot. based on one could end up being one 1st line tech guy's wrong response...

Yes, reading the link above, seems we're being fed a load of clickbait once more. Worrying, if true. Thanks for setting me straight, and I hope its untrue really. Would like to see mindshare and trust to grow for AMD. Stories like this don't do it any favors.

Hellfire · Oct 13, 2020

Vayra86 said:
Yes, reading the link above, seems we're being fed a load of clickbait once more. Worrying, if true

If it's true, sure I'd be pissed off with Asus, bearing in mind I have two X570 Crosshair VIII's formulas sitting here and countless other older Asus boards.

RH92 · Oct 13, 2020

Imagine having everything going for them especially after the MSI shenanigans and ruining it all with one PR response !

Personally as a Strix B450-I owner i was planning to move to B550 anyways because it wasn't willing to wait for 2021 to get a bios update for my B450 but now i know for sure my B550 itx won't be from ASUS , Gigabyte will have my money .

Edit : Nevermind it seems that TPU pulled another clickbait article .................

Barometric · Oct 13, 2020

A lot of x470 and b450 makers are going to run into this problem, there simply isn't enough room on the bios to support microcode for 4 gens, rather than making 3 gens obsolete some are going to choose not to support. But having one of your flagship motherboards not updated to support 5000 is a bad look when some budget b450s will probably get the beta update.

battlew · Oct 13, 2020

If i were AMD i would ask clarification from ASus, and depending by their answer i would stop to do business with them. My cpu not on your MB anymore. There are plenty of MB producer out there.

Colddecked · Oct 13, 2020

It's always a mistake to start a news story using tech support as the source. I'm in tech support and alot of the time we don't know anything/are the last to know lol...

TheLostSwede · Oct 13, 2020

Chrispy_ said:
One character wrong is not a "major typo" but I've already accepted that it's wrong so why are you being so deliberately obtuse? It's obviously supposed to be MB because there are two common EEPROM sizes, 16MB and 32MB and I typed the wrong letter.

I almost expected you of all people to derail a thread for something so trivial. If you're not having a go at forum users you're doing it to moderators and TPU staff in reviews. Hopefully this post and yours get marked as "low quality content" by a moderator and we can get back on topic....

It's not EEPROM, it's SPI flash... EEPROM's haven't been used for over a decade.
Sorry, but you keep making mistakes...

Right, because I point out mistakes and then somehow it's my fault :rolleyes:

Haile Selassie said:
Manners or not, the length of residency has very little to do with qualifications. After all, with all that residency you have here you should have known better not to derail this thread about ASUS cutting CPU support into a PCIE compatibility debate.

Sorry, but you were the one that started that derailment, I simply pointed out that you clearly aren't aware of the background as to why it we are were we are with regards to the X470 and B450 chipsets not having PCIe 4.0 support.

Got to love people blaming me for their mistakes...

Kohl Baas · Oct 13, 2020

"ASUS is not dropping AMD Ryzen 5000 support for X470 mainboards!!"

Makaveli · Oct 13, 2020

T1beriu said:
ASUS just confirmed that TPU has junk writers that all they know to do is copy paste content from Reddit or other sources without any contact with the companies to check if the information is true.

This is an issue with the majority of sites today not just TPU.

i've seen tons of stuff taken from reddit posted as news and nobody verifies anything.

Then the forum goes ape shit over unverified stories for days. Rince, repeat and recycle until the next rumor.

Haile Selassie · Oct 13, 2020

Makaveli said:
This is an issue with the majority of sites today not just TPU.

i've seen tons of stuff taken from reddit posted as news and nobody verifies anything.

Then the forum goes ape shit over unverified stories for days. Rince, repeat and recycle until the next rumor.

QFT. State of 'journalism' today (if you can call this journalism at all when there's no right of reply).

LFaWolf · Oct 13, 2020

Isn’t X570 the last of the chipset for AM4 socket? It most likely won’t support the next AM4+ or AM5? The downside that I see is if you have X470 and running a 2600 and want to upgrade to the 5700, you won’t be able to do that unless you upgrade the board as well, which will only last you just one gen.

My speculation anyway. This is just a rumor and has not been confirmed by Asus yet. I run intel so this doesn’t affect me.

Xuper · Oct 13, 2020

TPU please update your article with new ASUS statement.

Hellfire · Oct 13, 2020

Xuper said:
TPU please update your article with new ASUS statement.

What statement? got a link?

TheLostSwede · Oct 13, 2020

LFaWolf said:
Isn’t X570 the last of the chipset for AM4 socket? It most likely won’t support the next AM4+ or AM5? The downside that I see is if you have X470 and running a 2600 and want to upgrade to the 5700, you won’t be able to do that unless you upgrade the board as well, which will only last you just one gen.

Correct. The idea is that AMD will release an AGESA that adds support for the 5000-series CPUs on the X470 and B450 boards at some point next year, so there shouldn't be a need to upgrade the board.

Xuper · Oct 13, 2020

Hellfire said:
What statement? got a link?

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1316004902393442305

Easo · Oct 13, 2020

Hellfire said:
What statement? got a link?

Supposedly this, as mentioned above

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1316004902393442305

Hellfire · Oct 13, 2020

That does have some credibility and I believe it is probably true, but I wouldn't call that a statement from Asus.

Vya Domus · Oct 13, 2020

Makaveli said:
That is incorrect.

?

Jungstar · Oct 13, 2020

AMD caves-in to demand for Zen 3 support on X470 and B450 boards with an optional Beta BIOS, here's all you need to know about AMD's proposed upgrade path

AMD has now clarified that it will enable owners of X470 and B550 chipset-based motherboards to upgrade to Zen 3. However, this upgrade would be an opt-in irreversible "Beta" BIOS upgrade that would remove compatibility with some of the older Ryzen processor in order to make space for new Ryzen...

www.notebookcheck.net

Hellfire · Oct 13, 2020

Jungstar said:
AMD caves-in to demand for Zen 3 support on X470 and B450 boards with an optional Beta BIOS, here's all you need to know about AMD's proposed upgrade path

AMD has now clarified that it will enable owners of X470 and B550 chipset-based motherboards to upgrade to Zen 3. However, this upgrade would be an opt-in irreversible "Beta" BIOS upgrade that would remove compatibility with some of the older Ryzen processor in order to make space for new Ryzen...

www.notebookcheck.net

Right.....but it's still reliant on the board manufacturers releasing the bios updates. All AMD are providing is the AGESA library to the board manufacturers, the manufacturers still have to create the new bios for the board.

The article here is potentially that ASUS has decided it won't provide the update for the X470 and B450 chipsets.

$ReaPeR$ · Oct 13, 2020

I have an x470 board, from ASRock. :rolleyes:

have been avoiding Asus for years now. I'm not even planning to upgrade since my 3900x is much more than I really need, but since I build, repair and maintain systems Asus will not be in any of them.

Anymal · Oct 13, 2020

Maybe MSI will consider MAXX moniker for 5000 support, one of my PC has b450 max, so I expect support in January 2021.

Makaveli · Oct 13, 2020

Vya Domus said:
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typo should be correct not incorrect lol.

Fluffmeister · Oct 13, 2020

Wow, the joys of being an AMD partner, the mob will kill you...

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ASUS Seemingly Drops Support for AMD Ryzen 5000 Series CPUs on X470 Motherboards, the Company Responds

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AMD caves-in to demand for Zen 3 support on X470 and B450 boards with an optional Beta BIOS, here's all you need to know about AMD's proposed upgrade path

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AMD caves-in to demand for Zen 3 support on X470 and B450 boards with an optional Beta BIOS, here's all you need to know about AMD's proposed upgrade path

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