OFFICIAL CoD: Infinite Warfare and Modern Warfare Remastered (Discussion)

[Prima.Vera]

That's what I wanted to ask. Just started the game and having Fraps running at background causes unbelievable mouse acceleration/movement! So is there a way around it? I like to take screenshots while in game. No FPS drops was noticed so far however, but just played one mission.

Yes FRAPS kills the proper mouse movement in this game. Also the FPS drop I found out is because of the SHITTY nVidia drivers. Rolled back and issue fixed!

 

[Zyll Goliat]

By the way game had internal FPS counter.....if is that the only reason you guys using FRAPS........

 

[ithehappy]

Ah well, disabling FRAPS and using Steam's in-game screenshot function instead made the mouse problem go away. I didn't have any frame dropping though, its almost always at 60, and I even made two settings to High from Normal, from the Optimal video settings.

 

[Prima.Vera]

By the way game had internal FPS counter.....if is that the only reason you guys using FRAPS........

Is too damn huge )

 

[Prima.Vera]

Just finished the Infinite Warfare, and seriously, now I can completelly understand why people are hating COD games by now. Ridiculous short campaign - I mean seriously, after I finish it, I just felt like I've been playing the Introduction only... I mean, wth!! Also, this game has no soul in it! I mean it. The characters in this game have such a huge potentials, being good actors and all, however, the missions are flat, you don't get any connection with other characters, except maybe a little for the robot, but that's about it. Also the Infinite Warfare is a very interesting Universe, but ridiculously underused with crappy, flat missions...
Also, why almost all missions from COD have to be suicide missions?? I mean, wth, really, there is no proper planning??? WTF ALL main characters have to die in the end? Wth is this shit???
On a plus side, the graphics is superb, the AA is perfect, sound effects too. The worlds are very beautiful designed, zero complains here. They should give a bonus to the art director, but a kick in the arse to the overall game director, for a very flat game experience and ridiculously short campaign.

 

[ithehappy]

Partly agree with the above. Absolutely hating this game. That thing mainly, no development with any character, is just plain rubbish. I still remember Captain Price, that villain character Rorke and Raul or whatever, them stories I still remember, even after this long, but these games, are just so robotic. And I hate to do mission on moon, Saturn and stuffs, what happened to "human enemies", on this planet? Too much stepping into future already? Jeez!

 

[TheoneandonlyMrK]

Last one I bought was ghosts, I'm out......

 

[Kursah]

Ah well, disabling FRAPS and using Steam's in-game screenshot function instead made the mouse problem go away. I didn't have any frame dropping though, its almost always at 60, and I even made two settings to High from Normal, from the Optimal video settings.

GeForce Experience is a good option too...especially if you plan to record/stream and don't want to sacrifice performance and have a GTX600-series or newer.

Shame I'm hearing many folks are already donr with their time in IW. I imagine until VR or AR really takes off...FPS experiences just aren't going to hold up...at least this portion of the genre. We need something to make the experience fresh, unique, fun and challenging.

 

[rtwjunkie]

I imagine until VR or AR really takes off...FPS experiences just aren't going to hold up.

I respectfully disagree. You don't need VR to vitalize or revitalize FPS, or any genre really. You simply need the same formula that has always worked with this, RPG's and immersive sims: a compelling story, characters that are good enough to care about (or at least regard as interesting), and a decent length, which IMO is at LEAST 10 hours.

 

[Kursah]

I respectfully disagree. You don't need VR to vitalize or revitalize FPS, or any genre really. You simply need the same formula that has always worked with this, RPG's and immersive sims: a compelling story, characters that are good enough to care about (or at least regard as interesting), and a decent length, which IMO is at LEAST 10 hours.

I see your point and I really intended more to point the finger at CoD wash-rinse-repeat FPS's rather than the FPS genre as a whole, but when they keep using the same formula with different paint jobs...it might be time to add something else that is actually exciting. Technology could be the answer if they truly can't find a way to develop a better experience and story. I don't even own VR, nor do I own a new CoD title (I'm soooo very broke! lol )...I got to try IW and my buddy was soooo disappointed in the SP experience overall. He said go for Dishonored 2 any day of the week if you want a good SP experience and to skip this altogether...which I would have to agree. At least that brings a good experience to the table...though again I don't own it (broke atm ) but I have tried it...and its hella fun!

Don't get me wrong CoD is still entertaining for 10-15 minutes..but after that amount of time, I'm over it and ready to move onto something more interesting. Not a good sign for such an expensive title with high budgets and production values. So they better damn well add something else exciting to interest me if they ever want my money again. Of course I'd have to probably sell a kidney and a limb to get it done to afford an expensive CoD title AND VR!

I'll probably just stick to my space sims, RTSes and classic FPS! (CoD4 and BC2...damn they're classics... I guess more than grey hairs popping up is signifying I'm getting older LOL!!!)

 

[ithehappy]

Anyone completed the game mind telling me how the heck am I gonna complete this mission called Trojan Horse? Its the one killing after that Kotch guy, I am in space, and I need to shoot what exactly, the moving ones or them large ship ones? I don't get it.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

...there's gonna be a big patch in the next few days which I'll bet fixes this problem.

Nope, just read the release notes, worse yet, it has zero changes for the campaign. It's only stuff for mp and zombies.

I guess I shouldn't be surprised, since many are saying the sp is just a micro sized campaign with no soul to it. Typical of Activision to tack on a cheap sp just to try to sell more copies.

 

[qubit]

I know it doesn't list it, but in my experience not everything that goes into a patch makes it into the release notes.

User comments should tell us if it's fixed.

This is post 13000.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

User comments should tell us if it's fixed.

And I would think as many as are complaining about it, 1) they WOULD want to put it in the release notes, and 2) we'd have already seen talk of it fixing the problem in the threads talking about the new patch, but I've seen no talk of it.

 

[qubit]

And I would think as many as are complaining about it, 1) they WOULD want to put it in the release notes, and 2) we'd have already seen talk of it fixing the problem in the threads talking about the new patch, but I've seen no talk of it.

I know, we'll just have to wait. It wouldn't surprise me if they update those release notes with this and other stuff.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

I know, we'll just have to wait. It wouldn't surprise me if they update those release notes with this and other stuff.

Well, honestly, at this point I'm getting the feeling it's pointless to get the game for anything but mp anyway. As I said, I've read nothing but negative responses on the sp for being short and having terrible missions and uninteresting characters.

 

[ithehappy]

There are shorter games than this, that's for sure. There are a total of 30 missions, side missions included, so its not that short anyway. Mission qualities on the other hand is a different thing, but the length of the game I think is just fine.

 

[Prima.Vera]

There are shorter games that this, that's for sure. There are a total of 30 missions, side missions included, so its not that short anyway. Mission qualities on the other hand is a different thing, but the length of the game I think is just fine.

Is short man, no doubts about it, let's not beat arround the bush any more. Is so short, that that any other game that is shorter is probably Solitaire or Minesweeper. Yeah, the game is that short.
On comparisson, a good game lenght wise is something like Witcher 3, Mass Effect series.

 

[ithehappy]

Is short man, no doubts about it, let's not beat arround the bush any more. Is so short, that that any other game that is shorter is probably Solitaire or Minesweeper. Yeah, the game is that short.
On comparisson, a good game lenght wise is something like Witcher 3, Mass Effect series.

Those are different games from different genre. I mean look at the last few CoD lineup. Advanced Warfare, BO3 etc. Is this game shorter than them? I am not really sure!

 

[Frag_Maniac]

Let's not bring RPGs into the discussion, we all know those are MUCH longer.

For perspective, I'd just like to know how the campaign length compares to recent CoD or BF campaigns.

 

[ithehappy]

Let's not bring RPGs into the discussion, we all know those are MUCH longer.

For perspective, I'd just like to know how the campaign length compares to recent CoD or BF campaigns.

They should just include an option which would how long I have played. Otherwise its hard to remember what was the length of the previous CoD or BF iterations. But lets take BF4 for example, that game is still the champion of being short, this one is much more lengthier than that at least.

 

[Frag_Maniac]

...lets take BF4 for example, that game is still the champion of being short, this one is much more lengthier than that at least.

Thanks, at least we're getting specific now.

 

[qubit]

Personally I don't mind a campaign that's on the shorter side. If they get too long then it can feel endless and I get too impatient to finish the game. This can easily lead to me leaving it half completed as I find it increasingly hard to get back to it and am therefore left feeling unsatisfied. It's similar to leaving a movie halfway through and never getting back to it.

Also, a shorter campaign might be of higher quality too in terms of storyline, but especially technically in terms of graphics quality ie textures, character animations etc, because these things are expensive to produce well.

 

[Kursah]

So you're a "motion in the ocean" kinda guy right?

I kid, I kid. I couldn't resist a little humor this evening.

Anyways, I agree with you to a point, if there's quality and polish and a good story for a shorter campaign it doesn't matter as much...necessarily. It's not like CoD 4's campaign was uber long...but it had one helluva story for its day. BC2 fwir was decent too but also longer. For a game that cost upwards of $100 though...there's got to be more than a few hours worth of campaign IMHO. They already covered the costs of development in pre-order sales I'm sure, if not being covered by the last CoD title's sales. There's really no reason for sub-par experiences in CoD's SP IMHO. I do realize that comes with MW Remastered, and that has some costs too...but the bulk of it is IW.

Also, I'd rather have a story I can get into chapters/sections of, and stop at some point if it does feel too long or I get distracted...I'd rather have more content to conquer than dominated in the first sitting. Especially for the price of admission. Not saying IW is THAT short...but damn a couple of my friends that did buy this title were not impressed with stability or length/quality of the campaign.

 

[rtwjunkie]

So you're a "motion in the ocean" kinda guy right?

I kid, I kid. I couldn't resist a little humor this evening.

Anyways, I agree with you to a point, if there's quality and polish and a good story for a shorter campaign it doesn't matter as much...necessarily. It's not like CoD 4's campaign was uber long...but it had one helluva story for its day. BC2 fwir was decent too but also longer. For a game that cost upwards of $100 though...there's got to be more than a few hours worth of campaign IMHO. They already covered the costs of development in pre-order sales I'm sure, if not being covered by the last CoD title's sales. There's really no reason for sub-par experiences in CoD's SP IMHO. I do realize that comes with MW Remastered, and that has some costs too...but the bulk of it is IW.

Also, I'd rather have a story I can get into chapters/sections of, and stop at some point if it does feel too long or I get distracted...I'd rather have more content to conquer than dominated in the first sitting. Especially for the price of admission. Not saying IW is THAT short...but damn a couple of my friends that did buy this title were not impressed with stability or length/quality of the campaign.

It sounds like you, like I, appreciate the journey that is playing a game, and don't like it to end. This is why I also advocate longer campaigns in SP. If you hurry to finish, the enjoyment is all gone.