Dell Workstation Owners Club

[frigider]

Digikey:

Mouser:

So Digikey is definitely an eBay seller, and Mouser is the forum user...

did not see that coming like at all

 

[imrazor]

I had mothballed my T5500 for 3 or 4 months and recently fired it back up. But I noticed that the fans are running really loud. Linux reported that the onboard Dell sensor was recording an ambient temperature of 60C. Speedfan in windows however shows this -

If the cores are running between 25 - 35 C (that's from the onboard Intel sensors), it seems totally impossible for the CPU to be hitting nearly 100C higher (according to Dell's sensor.) How can I fix this? Does anyone even know where the sensor is? Can I just remove it, or will that force the fans into jet engine mode?

 

[Susquehannock]

I had mothballed my T5500 for 3 or 4 months and recently fired it back up. But I noticed that the fans are running really loud. Linux reported that the onboard Dell sensor was recording an ambient temperature of 60C. Speedfan in windows however shows this -

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If the cores are running between 25 - 35 C (that's from the onboard Intel sensors), it seems totally impossible for the CPU to be hitting nearly 100C higher (according to Dell's sensor.) How can I fix this? Does anyone even know where the sensor is? Can I just remove it, or will that force the fans into jet engine mode?

Temp sensor is on the front I/O panel and may be bad. Part # M884G. Pretty common with these Dells. Especially the earlier ones with the brown UCC brand capacitors which are known to be defective.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Speedfan in windows however shows this -

Check your heatsinks and make sure they haven't come loose.

Temp sensor is on the front I/O panel and may be bad. Part # M884G. Pretty common with these Dells. Especially the earlier ones with the brown UCC brand capacitors which are known to be defective.

This might also be a possibility.

 

[Marstg]

Using these 6pin to 8pin adapters, just one from the pack, as my 685W PSU has 2 x 6pin leads, to power a HP 2070 Super. GPU-Z reports that the card draws about 210W while Folding, total board power, so the adapters are doing the job.

 

[SamirD]

Using these 6pin to 8pin adapters, just one from the pack, as my 685W PSU has 2 x 6pin leads, to power a HP 2070 Super. GPU-Z reports that the card draws about 210W while Folding, total board power, so the adapters are doing the job.

If you can find them, HP 683867-001 is great for this. It's a really nice adapter that's made to stand the test of time for sure.

 

[Susquehannock]

Using these 6pin to 8pin adapters, just one from the pack, as my 685W PSU has 2 x 6pin leads, to power a HP 2070 Super. GPU-Z reports that the card draws about 210W while Folding, total board power, so the adapters are doing the job.

That is good news. Would be surprised if they didn't work. Both use three power wires. Not as though PSU makers put 6-pin on a separate rail limited to 75 watts.

 

[Socokiwi]

I am new to this forum but I am wondering if somebody could help me. I have an unlocked Xeon E5 1680v2 in a Dell T3610 WS. After hours of trying to force an overclock, i have finally managed to increase the multiplier. However, this only increases the multiplier on 6 cores, not all 8. The CPU speed will not increase higher than the slowest core. Does anyone know any tricks to get the multiplier to go across all cores?

The second part to this is - If i disable 2 cores and just run 6 i can overclock and get 4-4.1ghz across all 6. When increasing to 42 or 43 the workstation crashes and reboots. The CPU is a tank and can be pushed much higher than this, any reason why this Dell Tbone workstation can't handle to jandle?

 

[imrazor]

@Socokiwi My first thought is that perhaps the motherboard can't deliver enough voltage to power all 8 cores. If you reduce the frequency, can you than OC all 8 cores? For example, 8 cores at 3.6 GHz or something?

 

[Retrorockit]

You might try the Throttlestop Overclocking Desktop PC thread. Unclewebb the developer of TS posts there. Frank2994 did an E5-1680v3 in a T5810.
Your T3610 may be the first of it's kind, so expect suggestions more than hard answers.

Throttlestop overclocking Desktop PCs

That must itch something fierce! :laugh::roll: That would work well. That's a common saying at least in the Pittsburgh area....looks screwed up typed out lol. And for those dual 2687s I think I could only justify that on maybe a new Plex server. Our 4th gen i7 and gtx1650 super can run about...

www.techpowerup.com

Dell typically skimps on VRM cooling. This can limit Voltage to the CPU. The good part is you can add it yourself and reap the benefits.

 

[unclewebb]

ThrottleStop shows that the Xeon E5 1680v2 supports Unlimited overclocking. It also shows that this feature has been locked, likely by the BIOS.

The CPU can use the 42 multiplier when up to 6 cores are active. If 7 or 8 cores are active, the maximum multiplier will be limited to 34. If you cannot adjust the turbo ratios in the BIOS then you would need to find an unlocked BIOS so you can adjust these after you boot up into Windows. Other than that, there is nothing you can do.

When increasing to 42 or 43 the workstation crashes

The CPU voltage is not adjustable on these CPUs. The default voltage is going to limit the maximum speed you can reliably run this CPU at.

 

[lexluthermiester]

You might try the Throttlestop Overclocking Desktop PC thread. Unclewebb the developer of TS posts there. Frank2994 did an E5-1680v3 in a T5810.
Your T3610 may be the first of it's kind, so expect suggestions more than hard answers.

Throttlestop overclocking Desktop PCs

That must itch something fierce! :laugh::roll: That would work well. That's a common saying at least in the Pittsburgh area....looks screwed up typed out lol. And for those dual 2687s I think I could only justify that on maybe a new Plex server. Our 4th gen i7 and gtx1650 super can run about...

www.techpowerup.com

Dell typically skimps on VRM cooling. This can limit Voltage to the CPU. The good part is you can add it yourself and reap the benefits.

Thanks! I couldn't find it.

 

[Socokiwi]

@imrazor No this doesnt work either..... here is what CPUZ shows when all 8 cores active with the increased multiplier. T

ThrottleStop shows that the Xeon E5 1680v2 supports Unlimited overclocking. It also shows that this feature has been locked, likely by the BIOS.

The CPU can use the 42 multiplier when up to 6 cores are active. If 7 or 8 cores are active, the maximum multiplier will be limited to 34. If you cannot adjust the turbo ratios in the BIOS then you would need to find an unlocked BIOS so you can adjust these after you boot up into Windows. Other than that, there is nothing you can do.


The CPU voltage is not adjustable on these CPUs. The default voltage is going to limit the maximum speed you can reliably run this CPU at.

Thank you all! I might look at modding the bios. Might try that on my mates desktop first though haha!

 

[Retrorockit]

Frank 2994 looked into some BIOS modding in the TSOC thread. BIOSMods.com offers some custom BIOS modding also. If there is more demand for Dell stuff they might work on it more. But it is known to be harder than normal.

 

[lexluthermiester]

BIOSMods.com

Um...

Did you mean https://www.bios-mods.com/ ?

 

[Retrorockit]

Um...
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Did you mean https://www.bios-mods.com/ ?

Yes those guys.

 

[frigider]

me again... oscilating again between Hp and Dell

i did a quick google search on booting from NVMe on a pice card. and 1 guy said it worked (on A16 bios - i got A36)
so i guess it does work?

*reason for this is that my SSD on SATA is reaching 100% activity and staying there.. sooooo... i need faster storage?

 

[lexluthermiester]

i did a quick google search on booting from NVMe on a pice card. and 1 guy said it worked (on A16 bios - i got A36)
so i guess it does work?

*reason for this is that my SSD on SATA is reaching 100% activity and staying there.. sooooo... i need faster storage?

Remind us of your system specs?

 

[frigider]

Remind us of your system specs?

sorry, it is a T7810. bios A36.
do other specs matter? i would assume "no"?

i am gambling that the mobo and bios version are what will dictate the end result?

 

[lexluthermiester]

sorry, it is a T7810. bios A36.
do other specs matter? i would assume "no"?

i am gambling that the mobo and bios version are what will dictate the end result?

No that's fine. I do believe that system can boot from PCIe so you should be OK. However your troubles might be swapfile/pagefile related. As long as you have at least 16GB of RAM, try turning the pagefile off and see if your SSD stays pegged at 100% usage. Do you know how to do that?

 

[frigider]

No that's fine. I do believe that system can boot from PCIe so you should be OK. However your troubles might be swapfile/pagefile related. As long as you have at least 16GB of RAM, try turning the pagefile off and see if your SSD stays pegged at 100% usage. Do you know how to do that?

Thanks for the good news, I am quite curious about some performance boost, maybe programs opening faster? (Takes 30secs now...)

I got 160gb of ram
I will give that a go and see what happens, thanks for the tip!

 

[lexluthermiester]

I got 160gb of ram

GOOD GRIEF! That's a lot of RAM!

 

[hat]

So I need a modern-ish, inexpensive machine. My little brother is trying to run modified Minecraft with a machine consisting of an old SFF Dell Intel E5700, Q43/45 integrated graphics, and 4GB RAM. It's not working out so well (at all). I know at least the x58 workstations are cheap and plentiful, but I'm looking for at least something Sandy Bridge or newer so that AVX instructions will be available. Anyone have any affordable suggestions that would be cheap enough to consider over building a modern, low end desktop?

 

[lexluthermiester]

So I need a modern-ish, inexpensive machine. My little brother is trying to run modified Minecraft with a machine consisting of an old SFF Dell Intel E5700, Q43/45 integrated graphics, and 4GB RAM. It's not working out so well (at all). I know at least the x58 workstations are cheap and plentiful, but I'm looking for at least something Sandy Bridge or newer so that AVX instructions will be available. Anyone have any affordable suggestions that would be cheap enough to consider over building a modern, low end desktop?

What's your desired target budget? affordable is a somewhat subjective term..

 

[80-watt Hamster]

So I need a modern-ish, inexpensive machine. My little brother is trying to run modified Minecraft with a machine consisting of an old SFF Dell Intel E5700, Q43/45 integrated graphics, and 4GB RAM. It's not working out so well (at all). I know at least the x58 workstations are cheap and plentiful, but I'm looking for at least something Sandy Bridge or newer so that AVX instructions will be available. Anyone have any affordable suggestions that would be cheap enough to consider over building a modern, low end desktop?

Skylake-based and later Precision units are being phased out now. Should be able to find an i7 model for around (or less than) USD200.