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[lexluthermiester]

Skylake-based and later Precision units are being phased out now. Should be able to find an i7 model for around (or less than) USD200.

On that note, something like this might be good if you have your own GPU and drives;

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[hat]

On that note, something like this might be good if you have your own GPU and drives;

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That's not a bad system, but I do have concerns about the power supply. It looks like it supports two pci-e 6 pin, from the photo and what I can gather from Google searches. Most cards are at least 8 pin these days. Still, $250 seems very fair for a system with no GPU or drives. I can supply any old SSD for cheap, and a reasonable graphics card shouldn't be too terribly hard to come by.

 

[Count von Schwalbe]

That's not a bad system, but I do have concerns about the power supply. It looks like it supports two pci-e 6 pin, from the photo and what I can gather from Google searches. Most cards are at least 8 pin these days. Still, $250 seems very fair for a system with no GPU or drives. I can supply any old SSD for cheap, and a reasonable graphics card shouldn't be too terribly hard to come by.

A 8-pin can be adapted from 2x 6-pin, so you could go 1080, 2070, 6700, etc.

 

[lexluthermiester]

That's not a bad system, but I do have concerns about the power supply. It looks like it supports two pci-e 6 pin, from the photo and what I can gather from Google searches. Most cards are at least 8 pin these days. Still, $250 seems very fair for a system with no GPU or drives. I can supply any old SSD for cheap, and a reasonable graphics card shouldn't be too terribly hard to come by.

You can order two 6 to 8 pin adapter cable for it. They work perfectly. The PSU can handle the wattage you're likely to give it.

 

[hat]

I'll see if my parents can/want to get that for him. If they get the workstation, I'll provide the missing storage and GPU.

Looks like they went for it. Now I'm off to find a SSD and a graphics card...

 

[lexluthermiester]

and a graphics card...

That should not be difficult right now.

 

[KLiKzg]

Thanks for the good news, I am quite curious about some performance boost, maybe programs opening faster? (Takes 30secs now...)

I got 160gb of ram
I will give that a go and see what happens, thanks for the tip!

Then you certainly need to turn pagefile OFF, as it 160GB x 1,5 in pagefile would overwhelm the system, in your case SSD.

 

[imrazor]

I had mothballed my T5500 for 3 or 4 months and recently fired it back up. But I noticed that the fans are running really loud. Linux reported that the onboard Dell sensor was recording an ambient temperature of 60C. Speedfan in windows however shows this -

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If the cores are running between 25 - 35 C (that's from the onboard Intel sensors), it seems totally impossible for the CPU to be hitting nearly 100C higher (according to Dell's sensor.) How can I fix this? Does anyone even know where the sensor is? Can I just remove it, or will that force the fans into jet engine mode?

Had a duh! moment here. Apparently I forgot to put the RAM fan shroud back in when I last started monkeying around in the case. Now that it's back in place things look much better:

Hopefully it was all simply caused by a moment of forgetfulness...

 

[hat]

That should not be difficult right now.

Well they went for it and I ordered the drive. Just waiting for a chance to go set the thing up. I'm planning on giving him one of my own 1070s as I don't really need two anymore.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I'm planning on giving him one of my own 1070s as I don't really need two anymore.

That's very cool of you! GTX1070 is still a good card.

 

[frigider]

Hi, does having 2 CPUs with different serials (last row) affect performance?

 

[lexluthermiester]

Hi, does having 2 CPUs with different serials (last row) affect performance?

No. The two CPU's in that photo will work perfectly together.

 

[frigider]

No. The two CPU's in that photo will work perfectly together.

Very reassuring,thanks!

On to the next one :
Mixing single rank with double rank?
My video editing software is really slooooow lately...

I switched to this pc recently, won't even play an mp3 with black screen.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Mixing single rank with double rank?

Technically you can do it on some systems. I do not and would not recommend it. Whatever you buy, make sure it's all the same rank.

My video editing software is really slooooow lately...

This is why. Different ranks will work, but not well. Doing so introduces latency that will not exist with ranks of the same type.

 

[frigider]

Technically you can do it on some systems. I do not and would not recommend it. Whatever you buy, make sure it's all the same rank.

This is why. Different ranks will work, but not well. Doing so introduces latency that will not exist with ranks of the same type.

I did a test.
Left in just 1 type of ram, in the 1-2 slots for each CPU.
It ran as badly as with the mixed modules.

Kind of happy and disappointed at the same time

I think the software is at fault...

 

[lexluthermiester]

I think the software is at fault...

Actually, it's a hardware thing. Ranks are just not designed to be mixed and get optimal performance. It technically works, just not well.

 

[frigider]

Actually, it's a hardware thing. Ranks are just not designed to be mixed and get optimal performance. It technically works, just not well.

yeah.

*in case you were wondering regular ram works on T7810
don't know if all brands do
found out yesetrday from someone.

 

[hat]

@lexluthermiester I figured I'd mention that today I put together that computer for my brother. My parents bought the base system you recommended after I recommended it. I bought a Neo Forza 480GB TLC drive myself because it was on sale, and he got my girlfriend's GTX1660. She got my 1070. He's happy with Minecraft now, as his previous machine refused to run it... the 1660 should be capable of other things as well. Hopefully it'll be strong enough to run well for years to come.

 

[pashalis777]

Hello. I just moved my T5500 to the other room with a little bit of jolting, and turning it on, it went fine until 5 minutes in on Windows it showed blue screen and restarted. Upon the restart it gave me "Uncorrectable error in DDIM 6" or something similar. Clicking to continue it tries to boot into windows and the same blue screen appears. I did the scan for the system pressing f5 at the error screen. After 1 hour and 15 minutes it showed everything is fine. Restarting at that point, it gave me 'correctable errors previously detected in DDIM 6", pressing f1 booted into Windows and run great for hours, until I shut it down manually. This morning, no errors, but a little bit of delay at the boot screen, windows loaded, but about 4 minutes in, again, blue screen and restarted. Now says "Uncorrectable error previously detected in DDIM 6", pressing f1 it booted into Windows, and now is up and running for almost a couple of hours.

Most likely this will continue, but posting here asking for advice, if you have any. Thank you.

 

[lexluthermiester]

the 1660 should be capable of other things as well.

Oh heck yeah, GTX1660 is a very capable card. It'll even run CyberPunk2077 on modest settings. He should be solid!

Hopefully it'll be strong enough to run well for years to come.

Should be, yeah! Glad I could help!

 

[frigider]

me again.

possibly silly question here, brace yourselves:

thinking of getting an NVMe SSD, does the adapter itself being a max x4 (right?) matter that much?
there are real cheap ones and i'm thinking..it's just some connectors.

does it make sense to buy a more expensive one?
maybe better gold plated and stuff?

 

[80-watt Hamster]

me again.

possibly silly question here, brace yourselves:

thinking of getting an NVMe SSD, does the adapter itself being a max x4 (right?) matter that much?
there are real cheap ones and i'm thinking..it's just some connectors.

does it make sense to buy a more expensive one?
maybe better gold plated and stuff?

M.2 ports are typically wired X4 anyway, so you wouldn't lose anything unless running more than one, and maybe not even then depending on workload. Gold contacts are entirely unnecessary unless in a corrosion-prone environment, at which point corrosion elsewhere would probably pose a problem first.

 

[frigider]

M.2 ports are typically wired X4 anyway, so you wouldn't lose anything unless running more than one, and maybe not even then depending on workload. Gold contacts are entirely unnecessary unless in a corrosion-prone environment, at which point corrosion elsewhere would probably pose a problem first.

just what i needed to hear
very reassuring.

thanks!

 

[frigider]

Yet another stupid question:
If you have a 2 socket PC and each CPU has 1 ram dimm.. does the ram run in single channel mode?

Is that really slow compare to dual channel?

 

[lexluthermiester]

If you have a 2 socket PC and each CPU has 1 ram dimm.. does the ram run in single channel mode?

Yes, each CPU will run in a single channel mode.

Is that really slow compare to dual channel?

That depends on what you are doing.