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[crazydrve`]

This may be a dumb question but can anyone tell me what the price of aluminum is that outlines the pcie slots?

If that's missing could that cause issues?

 

[elfoam]

This may be a dumb question but can anyone tell me what the price of aluminum is that outlines the pcie slots?

If that's missing could that cause issues?

Got a photo of this part? I dont recall any aluminum on my 5500's

 

[uco73]

yea I went ahead and did that, all tests seem good. Thank you for your help. now to figure out the raid card.

I'm glad I helped you. If you need any help regarding the DELL T5500 feel free to contact me.

 

[crazydrve`]

Got a photo of this part? I dont recall any aluminum on my 5500's

I cant find a photo but it was a very thin piece of what looked to be aluminum that was on the inside outlining the pcie brackets, I wanna say it's a shield of some sort?

I'm glad I helped you. If you need any help regarding the DELL T5500 feel free to contact me.

Thank you very much, right now trying to make sure the board and power supply are good. I'm thinking of testing the power supply with a multimeter.

I get weird voltage readouts sometimes from my arc-1880ix-12 raid card. Not sure if its the card going bad or something else is going on.

 

[Caring1]

I cant find a photo but it was a very thin piece of what looked to be aluminum that was on the inside outlining the pcie brackets, I wanna say it's a shield of some sort?

This?

It's marketed as reinforcing for the slot.

 

[crazydrve`]

Got a photo of this part? I dont recall any aluminum on my 5500's

Here I have them pointed out by the green line

http://imgur.com/a/Mt9nlo7

I'm glad I helped you. If you need any help regarding the DELL T5500 feel free to contact me.

Can I contact you via PM?

Does anyone know software that will show me the voltages?

 

[lexluthermiester]

Here I have them pointed out by the green line

http://imgur.com/a/Mt9nlo7

Can I contact you via PM?

Does anyone know software that will show me the voltages?

The slot covers are there mostly to keep out pests and close up wholes in the case. The system's functionality will be unaffected by their absence.

 

[crazydrve`]

The slot covers are there mostly to keep out pests and close up wholes in the case. The system's functionality will be unaffected by their absence.

@lexluthermiester @uco73

I realized I am not explaining it right, on mine there was this piece of thin metal or aluminum outlining the inside of the pcie slots. I am guessing its some sort of fiting for ground or something.

It looks like I have a grounding issue because the card seems to move when I touch it, so its not fitting tight.

I hope I am explaining this right, and I really do appreciate all the help from everyone, I feel I am close to my system being stable except for this what I think is a grounding issue.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I realized I am not explaining it right, on mine there was this piece of thin metal or aluminum outlining the inside of the pcie slots. I am guessing its some sort of fiting for ground or something.

Oh I see. It's a grounding thing. Not really effective. You can safely remove it if it's giving you problems. I've removed it on all of my systems and they've have never been any issues.

 

[Aaron_Henderson]

Had to "upgrade" my T3500 setup...my Gigabyte Windforce 290X had been on its last legs for awhile, and it finally bit the dust completely. Turns out I had to spend nearly $300 Cad to get a new card that is barely faster than my old one...but whatever, at least I have a working PC. Ended up getting an RX 580 8GB...it was basically the cheapest card that was still faster than the 290X. After that upgrade, I decided to go all out with some RGB fans, for no reason what-so-ever...they should be here tomorrow. And I think I am finally going to bite the bullet and order that W3680 I've wanted for awhile. I'll post some updated photos here after I get the fans installed. Looks like I'm going to limp out another year or two on this thing...

 

[lexluthermiester]

Had to "upgrade" my T3500 setup...my Gigabyte Windforce 290X had been on its last legs for awhile, and it finally bit the dust completely. Turns out I had to spend nearly $300 Cad to get a new card that is barely faster than my old one...but whatever, at least I have a working PC. Ended up getting an RX 580 8GB...it was basically the cheapest card that was still faster than the 290X. After that upgrade, I decided to go all out with some RGB fans, for no reason what-so-ever...they should be here tomorrow. And I think I am finally going to bite the bullet and order that W3680 I've wanted for awhile. I'll post some updated photos here after I get the fans installed. Looks like I'm going to limp out another year or two on this thing...

Nice upgrade! Take pictures. LOL!

 

[crazydrve`]

Oh I see. It's a grounding thing. Not really effective. You can safely remove it it's giving you problems. I've removed it on all of my systems and there have never been any issues.

Ah ok well it seems like since I removed it I'm getting issues, not sure if it helped keep the cards tighter in the slots?

And now I'm getting a pci error initializing but suspect bad card.

Thank you
Bill

 

[elfoam]

I got completely sucked in with this latest single cpu T7500 I bought... I was going to pull it apart and put a more modern board in the case. I resisted buying parts for it for a while.. But now I've found myself buying a RX 480.. 48 gig of ram and the big U402F heatsink. I know it would be REALLY dumb to buy a X5690.. when I should buy a X5680 for half the price.. but I'm in a dumb kind of mood this week.

Have any of you booted these up with clover on a USB stick so you can run a NVMe drive on a PCIE card as the main drive?

 

[Aaron_Henderson]

Ah ok well it seems like since I removed it I'm getting issues, not sure if it helped keep the cards tighter in the slots?

And now I'm getting a pci error initializing but suspect bad card.

Thank you
Bill

I think this is just coincidence...I've removed those things plenty of times...but...they are a pain to remove...is there a chance you scraped the motherboard while removing it? Really, I usually have to remove the motherboard to properly remove that piece, that, thank god, I've only ever seen on OEM cases and servers. What is the PCI card? Can probably just pull it out.

 

[crazydrve`]

I think this is just coincidence...I've removed those things plenty of times...but...they are a pain to remove...is there a chance you scraped the motherboard while removing it? Really, I usually have to remove the motherboard to properly remove that piece, that, thank god, I've only ever seen on OEM cases and servers. What is the PCI card? Can probably just pull it out.

Whats weird now is all is working fine.

One question I do have is there a software that can read the t5500 board voltages?

 

[lexluthermiester]

I know it would be REALLY dumb to buy a X5690.. when I should buy a X5680 for half the price..

Um, yes? A W3680 or W3690 would be the better choice as they are unlocked and allow for software overclocking. Not expensive either.

One question I do have is there a software that can read the t5500 board voltages?

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Generally, if the voltages can be read that software will read it. Dell didn't put voltage monitors on everything.

 

[elfoam]

Um, yes? A W3680 or W3690 would be the better choice as they are unlocked and allow for software overclocking. Not expensive either.

You forgot the W series doesn't run in the 5520 server/workstation chipset (only the X58 in the 3500) or have a high enough thermal limit to not be constantly throttling under load without extra fans to keep it under 67c (the X series can run more than 10c warmer). Actually can you disable the thermal limiter with software on those cpus in the 3500? The W3690 and X5690 are the same price (about 70 usd) which is getting pretty close to half the price I paid for the entire machine. The W3680 is close to twice the price as the X5680. I'm probably going to go with the X5690 just because I think that cpu may go up in value over time and the x5680 may not ever be worth more than it's current price... this isn't being very rational but I don't think I can resist the silliness this time around.

Anyway the most important thing to have in my life is a very big case, the reason I can't do much to my T5500 is the small case which is completely full. The rest I can work around. That's 90% of the reason I'm using the T7500 whichever way it ends up in the future.

I ordered a PCI-E to M.2 adapter yesterday.. Should run about 1300-1600 meg a second as a main drive on pcie 2. I'll report back on that later on when I get it booting from the m.2. Wont be for a couple of months. I will have tested the crossfire by then too. I'm sure 5x regular sata ssds on a raid controller would outperform that but.. there's a big price advantage to the M.2, since this machine wont have anything important on it I wont need the raid array.

 

[lexluthermiester]

You forgot the W series doesn't run in the 5520 server/workstation chipset (only the X58 in the 3500)

Oh damn! That's right... Crap. Forgot about that. What lame-brain at Intel thought that was a good idea?

Actually can you disable the thermal limiter with software on those cpus in the 3500?

Yes, Throttlestop does this. You need a good heatsink though. The standard Dell units will not be enough to handle the extra heat.

I'm probably going to go with the X5690 just because I think that cpu may go up in value over time and the x5680 may not ever be worth more than it's current price... this isn't being very rational but I don't think I can resist the silliness this time around.

The extra money is not worth the 133mhz difference between them. Save your money, get an X5680.

 

[ManGupta]

Have any of you booted these up with clover on a USB stick so you can run a NVMe drive on a PCIE card as the main drive?

I use Duet with Refind ....... not tried clover. But I think both works.

 

[elfoam]

I use Duet with Refind ....... not tried clover. But I think both works.

I hadn't heard about that one.. I'll read up on it . Should make a big difference in keeping these machines running fast for quite a few years yet.

 

[ManGupta]

I hadn't heard about that one.. I'll read up on it .

I had posted a tutorial in the Throttlestop thread. You can go through it.

Throttlestop overclocking Desktop PCs

to clarify, I game on Windows 10, which is running on my Apple Mac Pro. I dual boot macOS and Windows. but yes you are correct, I have stock clocks on my Xeons. It is Apple hardware I think that makes it rather troublesome to overclock (or alter in any way really), no way to get into anything...

www.techpowerup.com

 

[crazydrve`]

Hello all, I want to thank everyone who has helped me, I think my T5500 is finally stable, now the question of whats the best way to cool this down. I already have two 80mm fans in the rear but still have the stock fans in the front, and stock heatsinks.

I am looking at this heatsink for the main cpu but not sure what to do about 2nd cpu?

0U016F


Thank you
Bill

 

[ManGupta]

now the question of whats the best way to cool this down.

Retrorockit has done some awesome cooling mods in T5500. You can refer to his posts in Throttledstop Thread as well as in this thread also .

 

[elfoam]

Hello all, I want to thank everyone who has helped me, I think my T5500 is finally stable, now the question of whats the best way to cool this down. I already have two 80mm fans in the rear but still have the stock fans in the front, and stock heatsinks.

I am looking at this heatsink for the main cpu but not sure what to do about 2nd cpu?

0U016F


Thank you
Bill

I have the 0U016F in both my T5500s but I don't run the high wattage 6 cores so I can't say if it can cool the 130 watt cpus. The heatsink on the riser card doesn't have a Dell upgrade path but it's similar in performance to the 0U016F (much better than the stock Aluminum block). If you run an artificial benchmark on them you could probably hit the thermal limit on the cpu no matter which heatsink you run. But in the real world they stay very cool.

 

[crazydrve`]

@elfoam @ManGupta

I do run 2x X5650 and 72GB ram

Thanks guys, right now on the main I am running the stock cooler which I believe is this right?

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so the 0U016F would be better, and then replacing the case fans too.