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[lexluthermiester]

and 72GB ram

2x36GB?

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NO! That damn thing is terrible. Avoid it. Look for the ones with aluminium fins & copper heatpipes.

 

[elfoam]

@elfoam @ManGupta

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so the 0U016F would be better, and then replacing the case fans too.

Yes Both true ^, and the 0U016F will be a lot better

Pretty cheap on ebay https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/USED-0U...m54887a175b:g:lA4AAOSwr-1fKS30&frcectupt=true

 

[crazydrve`]

2x36GB?


NO! That damn thing is terrible. Avoid it. Look for the ones with aluminium fins & copper heatpipes.

Hi @lexluthermiester

Unfortunately I have that pos heatsink, thats the first thing I am looking at.

Here are detailed specs that I am trying to gather:

Dell System WorkStation T5500
Board 0CRH6C - this is a recent replacement -

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TS only overclocks unlocked CPUs. This is per Unclewebb the developer of Throttlestop. We have a separate thread about TS overclocking. https://www.techpowerup.com/forums/threads/throttlestop-overclocking-desktop-pcs.235975/ The cheapest unlocked CPU is the W3570 Nehalem. If you don't already...

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DELL 0T021F Heatsink For Precision T5500
Dell Precision T5500 Secondary CPU Assembly
Blower Fan F306F, Proc/Memory Board F623F, CPU Fan W715F, Heatsink W344F

Socket B0 LGA-1366 Intel(R) Xeon(R) CPU X5650 @ 2.67GHz (Intel Xeon X5600 XC (Westmere-EP) 2.67GHz [B1] )

and I have 72GB (8GB x 9) bought here:

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stock front fans
2x 80mm quiet fans for the rear.

If I can add any other info let me know.

Thank you
Bill

 

[Aaron_Henderson]

Some updated photos of my T3500 based system since I have replaced a dead 290X with an RX 580 8GB, and added some cheap RGB fans (which actually are not that bad considering they are around 1/3 the price of typical ARGB fans). My Pixel 2 can't really seem to capture the brightness of the LED for some reason, but you get the idea. Also...keep in mind this is a very cheap build and many of these parts have been in service for 5+ years...I am disabled and can't ever really afford a new build, so I just keep replacing parts in my main PC as absolutely necessary. I'd honestly buy a new case, but that would basically require upgrading my motherboard as well since this case has been modified to specifically fit the T3500 motherboard and I won't have the means to modify another case for some time.

 

[crazydrve`]

Some updated photos of my T3500 based system since I have replaced a dead 290X with an RX 580 8GB, and added some cheap RGB fans (which actually are not that bad considering they are around 1/3 the price of typical ARGB fans). My Pixel 2 can't really seem to capture the brightness of the LED for some reason, but you get the idea. Also...keep in mind this is a very cheap build and many of these parts have been in service for 5+ years...I am disabled and can't ever really afford a new build, so I just keep replacing parts in my main PC as absolutely necessary. I'd honestly buy a new case, but that would basically require upgrading my motherboard as well since this case has been modified to specifically fit the T3500 motherboard and I won't have the means to modify another case for some time.

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That looks great....

 

[ired]

Hi,
I have a T3610 which I plan to repurpose as linux home-server and I'd like to make it as quiet as possible..
ideal would be fully passive
3x8g ecc ram, e5-2630v2, hd5450, ssd
I'm ok with leaving the case open and even some downclocking (in current usage ram seems to be the hottest part)

any tips-experience on disabling fans in this pr similar model are welcome
can the psu run passive with the above limited load?
thanks

 

[ManGupta]

Hi,
I have a T3610 which I plan to repurpose as linux home-server and I'd like to make it as quiet as possible..
ideal would be fully passive
3x8g ecc ram, e5-2630v2, hd5450, ssd
I'm ok with leaving the case open and even some downclocking (in current usage ram seems to be the hottest part)

any tips-experience on disabling fans in this pr similar model are welcome
can the psu run passive with the above limited load?
thanks

The T3610 you are planning to use not as Desktop or Workstation but as Server, then why do you want to make it quite. ...??

You can simply shift the Server to another room ...... access that server through Home network and keep the Client Machine as well as area around client machine as quite as possible.

That way you do not have to under-clock the T3610 ...... rather you can use the full horsepower and while doing so if the fan speed ramps up to a high level making it noisy ...... it will anyway be located in a different Room / Area.

 

[ired]

I don't have another unused room to put it.
It will be running mostly torrents/minimal file serving, so I don't need it running full-speed.

thanks for trying to help, but "you dont want that" is not really helpful (except maybe for expert opinion that this is unsafe-will catch fire)

 

[ManGupta]

I don't have another unused room to put it.
It will be running mostly torrents/minimal file serving, so I don't need it running full-speed.

thanks for trying to help, but "you dont want that" is not really helpful (except maybe for expert opinion that this is unsafe-will catch fire)

Well in that case

1) you can change the fans with quieter one
or
2) Use SpeedFan App to lower the Fan Curve
and

3) Lubricate the fans with mix of motor oil and grease

4) Use ThrottleStop to underclock the cpu.

You can leave the case open if you donot have any domestic pet around.

Unfortunately, you cannot do much about PSU as aftermarket PSU is non compatible with Dell T3610

 

[Aaron_Henderson]

I don't have another unused room to put it.
It will be running mostly torrents/minimal file serving, so I don't need it running full-speed.

thanks for trying to help, but "you dont want that" is not really helpful (except maybe for expert opinion that this is unsafe-will catch fire)

There are some typical style aftermarket CPU coolers that support socket 2011 narrow ILM, which appears to be what your T3610 uses...you could start with a beefy heatpipe cooler with no fan, if you don't mind running without your side panel on. I doubt the PSU will run fanless...I've tried on several similar style server CPU, and they overheat with even a basic load. You might be able to replace the two small fans in the PSU...but that could also cause issues, as I'm not sure the PSU will run unless the fans report the same RPM as the stock ones...if that makes sense. All you can do is try. Just hook up any random 12V fan in the place of one of the PSU fans, and see what happens...if it works, grab a couple small Noctua fans and toss them in your PSU. Keep in mind to not be going into your PSU if you're not sure what you're doing. Just remove the front panel fans, you'll probably get an error on startup about all the fans you mess with, but from what I understand, you just press F1, or usually there is a setting in BIOS to not show the errors. If you end up needing some airflow through the case and around the motherboard, you might be able to replace a front fan with something more quiet, or, possibly attach a fan to the rear exhaust...might take a tiny bit of modding, might be lucky and have the holes in the "mesh" line up with a 90mm or so fan mounts. If you can't get passive running, you should at least be able to make it much quieter, and probably even keep full speed of your CPU.

 

[elfoam]

Aaron, that is a one hell of a machine, coolest PC build I've seen all year. Did you take photos of the build along the way? I'll have a search up of the forum.

 

[Aaron_Henderson]

Aaron, that is a one hell of a machine, coolest PC build I've seen all year. Did you take photos of the build along the way? I'll have a search up of the forum.

Wow, thanks! And unfortunately, I didn't really take many photos along the way...this "build" is basically ever evolving, and it's not so much a "build" as it is a PC I just replace parts as necessary. There are likely a few photos in this thread somewhere, of my PC in various states. I can take more photos of specific parts of my build, or if you have any questions, feel free to ask away.

EDIT - here is the earliest photo I could find of my T3500 based setup (2018) -

There are earlier photos, but I can't seem to find them. I believe this picture is running Coolit Eco II 120 AIO, Gigabyte Windforce 290X 4GB (garbage, fans died super quickly), and the fans are the classic screamers "Scythe Ultra Kaze 3000". No SSD yet. And a W3565 instead of a W3570. Added a fan to the NB (I think NB?). And yes, I am also still rocking 10GB of RAM with purple heatsinks lol

 

[elfoam]

Wow, thanks! And unfortunately, I didn't really take many photos along the way...this "build" is basically ever evolving, and it's not so much a "build" as it is a PC I just replace parts as necessary. There are likely a few photos in this thread somewhere, of my PC in various states. I can take more photos of specific parts of my build, or if you have any questions, feel free to ask away.

EDIT - here is the earliest photo I could find of my T3500 based setup (2018) -

I've been looking for purple ram heatsinks myself lol. I think I may have talked to you years ago in a LGA 771-775 thread about a rack server to gaming pc build? Can't be many people around doing your stuff. I have a IBM 2U rack server here that I always felt like modding but at this point I think I'll keep it as a collectable. But with my most recent T7500 I plan on doing the reverse of what you've done here. I wont do it yet but once the westmere Xeon can not longer run the latest games at 60 frames I will put a more modern X99 based xeon in it.. Still deciding on single or dual cpu board.

I'm pretty interersted in how well the ATX and EATX boards will go into the Dell case. It seems to me it'll fit quite well.. It'll just go in.. inverted. The big PSU in the T7500 and the nice case (I had another one for years already) is the reason I wanted to go down that path. I keep thinking.. perhaps I should paint the case.. perhaps I shouldn't.. Maybe I'll just mirror polish the alloy front panel or not even do that.. For now I'm just buying X99 parts. The single cpu Huananzhi X99-TF with a E5-2678 V3 and 4 sticks of my existing 8 gig ddr3 sticks is a very tempting plan.

 

[elfoam]

I spent the last week wondering if the stainless steel stand which was an option for the 690 (Part number KH525) also fits the T7400 and T7500.. Eventually I found that the clips on the bottom of the cases at least were the same part number across all 3 machines.. So I assume the stand is also and I've ordered one. should add a touch of class to the T7500 if it fits as I expect it will.

 

[crazydrve`]

Has anyone been able to get speed fan to work with the dell T5500?

 

[elfoam]

Has anyone been able to get speed fan to work with the dell T5500?

Should be the same as this

 

[Susquehannock]

Has anyone been able to get speed fan to work with the dell T5500?

Yes. Captured this image few minutes ago. We gain access to all four fans, including the active northbridge (5520 chip) fan/cooler only present on the older D883F boards. The newer CRH6C with passive cooler on the northbridge only show the three fans of course.
As a side note ... the T5500 will run with two main front fans disconnected, after bypassing the start up warning. Disconnecting either chipset fan stops you at the start up prompt and can go no further.

Above said. Speed Fan on an overcloked T3500, with either TS or XTU, has been glitchy. Random black screen lock ups. So I don't even bother using it on them anymore unless at stock speed.

 

[crazydrve`]

@elfoam @Susquehannock

I think I have it going, still doing some testing, I think I need to redo the thermal paste, can anyone recommended one to use?

also is there a better 2nd cpu fan and assembly I can get?

I currently have...

Dell Precision T5500 Workstation 2nd Processor CPU HeatSink + Riser Assembly F623F W715F W567F F306F

 

[elfoam]

@elfoam @Susquehannock

also is there a better 2nd cpu fan and assembly I can get?

I currently have...

Dell Precision T5500 Workstation 2nd Processor CPU HeatSink + Riser Assembly F623F W715F W567F F306F

I've never seen an optional heatsink for the T5500's risers It does get a couple degrees hotter the optional 0U016F main cpu heatsink which I guess you have now?. The easy answer is to run the CPUs that have a high thermal limit. That's the "Tcase" rating you see in intels site. Most of the top shelf X series CPUs cut out at about 80c, some a little over some a little under. The less fancy E, W and L series cut out in the upper 60c range to mid 70 kind of range. I'm just here trying so hard to resist buying a cheap T5810 on ebay... I've sat here all morning and watched 6 of them sell.. 2 left. It would be a good upgrade for me but I'd regret not waiting for a T7810.

As for thermal paste I'm using Arctic MX-4.. seems to work fine.

You can look at the Tcase thermal ratings for all the Westmere cpus here https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/codename/54534/westmere-ep.html

 

[crazydrve`]

I've never seen an optional heatsink for the T5500's risers It does get a couple degrees hotter the optional 0U016F main cpu heatsink which I guess you have now?. The easy answer is to run the CPUs that have a high thermal limit. That's the "Tcase" rating you see in intels site. Most of the top shelf X series CPUs cut out at about 80c, some a little over some a little under. The less fancy E, W and L series cut out in the upper 60c range to mid 70 kind of range. I'm just here trying so hard to resist buying a cheap T5810 on ebay... I've sat here all morning and watched 6 of them sell.. 2 left. It would be a good upgrade for me but I'd regret not waiting for a T7810.

As for thermal paste I'm using Arctic MX-4.. seems to work fine.

You can look at the Tcase thermal ratings for all the Westmere cpus here https://ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/products/codename/54534/westmere-ep.html

Thanks, I have the x5650 so its at 95 for the tmax, and i ordered that thermal paste.

 

[elfoam]

So... I ordered a T5810.. I couldn't resist. Now I have to wonder what's the best price per performance cpu at the moment

 

[lexluthermiester]

So... I ordered a T5810.. I couldn't resist. Now I have to wonder what's the best price per performance cpu at the moment

What did you get with it?

 

[elfoam]

What did you get with it?

Not much.. it's a very basic T5810 but it was also very cheap (250 USD shipped). It has the super slow 4 core E5-1603 V3. 8gig of DDR4 (2 4gig sticks)a 500gig drive and a Quadro K620. There was a much better spec T5810 for a couple hundred dollars more but as I would have been replacing all the stuff in either machine.. I'll go with the cheapest one.

I think I'll go with the 12 core E5 2673 V3, another 2 sticks of ram for 16 gig total and run my RX 480 GPU in it for now with the idea to go to a stronger GPU later. You can do the Russian all core turbo bios hack with the T5810.. Which is one of the main reasons I've been intrested in them. That locks the 2.4ghz E5 2673 V3 to about 3.2ghz all 12 cores. Which should be pretty decent hopefully. These machines are 5 years old now so just starting to run out of Dell support and comming into the used market. I really wanted a T7810.. or even better yet a Lenovo P900 but I'll wait it out for one of those beasts. Maybe next year. Oh yeah the T5810 can boot directly from a M.2 drive.. which is something I am happy to have.

Also the T5810 is pretty future proof, being able to run stuff like the E5-2696 v4 22 core.

 

[Retrorockit]

Here's something for anyone playing with an old BTX T3400 or an of the similar XPS computers. The 525W PSU from the T3500, with a 0KP500 harness will have all the right wiring for the BTX systems with proper dual GPU support.
The options for the T3400 would be .
The 375W 2x18A, rail T3400 PSU. Probably limited to an actual 150W GPU if using a 6 to 8 pin adapter.
The 425W 3x18A, rail with the same connectors as the 375W plus a 2nd 75W GPU cable..
The 525W 3x18A, rail T3500/t3400 optional PSU which officially has connectors for 2x 150W GPUs, or 1x225W and another 75W on the MB.
The first 2 have integrated wiring. the 525W has a detachable harness.
My thoughts on these-
I see the 375W as an Optiplex 305W with an added 75W GPU cable. Not a lot of head room left.
The 425W is another matter. An added 216W rail with another 75W connector. I wouldn't be afraid to add a 150W 8pin adapter on this one.
The 525W / KP500 is basically the 425W with more GPU power added and a detachable harness. On the T3500 harness it has a very long 8 pin CPU, and single GPU support. The KP500 harness has a very short 4 pin CPU cable, and added 2x GPU support. The 24 pin on the T3500 harness is too short for BTX.

 

[crazydrve`]

Does anyone know how to identify the fans on the dell T5500?

I am using speed fan and there is a fan I cant identify.

the only other would be either the power supply or chipset fan?

Any ideas would be appreciated.

Also would anyone be able to tell me what this means? or does it mean my 2nd cpu is bad. I add the 2nd cpu assembly and I get this error.

Pb7

1- Off 2- Blink 3- Blink 4- Blink

ACPI S0, hand off to BIOS control

System on. BIOS not execution. This is the transition state to POST states.