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By that point both cards will be in unplayable territory and I am not sure about you, but I personally have no interest in discussing the merits of two different piles of shite. Oh look, this one is slightly less lumpy than that one, very cool.
The NV pricing makes their cards look crappy. Bought the 4070 Super some months back NIB at 681$ tax included. The RX 6800 is far better bang for the buck in my opinion.
 

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The NV pricing makes their cards look crappy. Bought the 4070 Super some months back NIB at 681$ tax included. The RX 6800 is far better bang for the buck in my opinion.
If NVIDIA cards were cheaper then the 4070s would be a favorable buy, but that doesn't really say anything about VRAM and whatever OP is spewing. I do miss my RX6800 and 6800XT though..
 
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like a flat earth stooge.
These lads even have more credibility because they at least witness the flatness of the visible part of the surface of this globe. Short-visioned, sure, yet they still have something to say.

However, OP has never seen any of GPUs they're discussing. Would've posted different messages otherwise. Unless this thread is trololo (can't ignore this possibility!)

The RX 6800 is far better bang for the buck in my opinion.
Especially if we go aftermarket where it cost $280ish and murders everything in FPS/$.
 

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The GTX980, GTX1660 and RTX2060 would like to have a word. All three of those cards are still a fair shout for gaming. Remember, just because it's older, doesn't mean it's unusable.
GTX680 4GB. GTX780 6GB. The list can go on and on.

Actually got some recent games running on the 680 2GB. Given it was a bit of a texture mess it still ran. Mostly
 

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If you look at the recommended specs for modern games on Steam, the requirements are not that steep for 99% of games.

But when you want hundreds of FPS at high refresh and res, that is where you start to pay.

For instance, I play on a TV, so 4K60 is totally ok with me, my TV is 60Hz anyways.

My kid plays at 1080p/60 on an 8GB card and he loves it. Looks pretty good to me to.
 

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Downgraded from 12GB to 10GB and I still play at 4K.
 
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If you look at the recommended specs for modern games on Steam, the requirements are not that steep for 99% of games.

But when you want hundreds of FPS at high refresh and res, that is where you start to pay.

For instance, I play on a TV, so 4K60 is totally ok with me, my TV is 60Hz anyways.

My kid plays at 1080p/60 on an 8GB card and he loves it. Looks pretty good to me to.
And the Steam Deck has 4 CPU cores, an 8 CU iGPU, and no VRAM, and I love mine to bits! :)

Okay, the Steam Deck was a radical example, but I tend to say that GPUs didn't get so much more expensive, but our expectations grew bigger, too.
 

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And the Steam Deck has 4 CPU cores, an 8 CU iGPU, and no VRAM, and I love mine to bits! :)

Okay, the Steam Deck was a radical example, but I tend to say that GPUs didn't get so much more expensive, but our expectations grew bigger, too.
I get it man :)

I see people smack talk 8 and 12GB cards on the daily it seems.. meanwhile over here we are enjoying the heck out of them.

Can you do better? Sure..
 
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News flash!!!!

The thing that isn't the best, isn't the best.

If your needs are met by the amount of frame buffer you have, then roll with it. If they aren't, then you better buy a card with more.
 

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Or turn on DLSS and Frame Gen haha :laugh:
 
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GTX680 4GB. GTX780 6GB. The list can go on and on.
Those cards really are too old to be relevant for modern gaming.
Actually got some recent games running on the 680 2GB. Given it was a bit of a texture mess it still ran. Mostly
Fair enough. Still, those really are too old for games made recently.

If you look at the recommended specs for modern games on Steam, the requirements are not that steep for 99% of games.
Fair point and the same is true for Epic and GOG.
 

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Downgraded from 12GB to 10GB and I still play at 4K.
I was playing at 4K with my 3070Ti for like 2 years lol. It was not terrible, but it wasn't awesome :D

But the 12GB and extra horsepower is welcomed in comparison :laugh:
 
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Any talks about Vram are often seen with the scope of "future-proofing". 12GB might be fine now, but it's too close to the limit to give peace of mind. Assuming that Vram requirement keeps growing in the next few years, and you'll have issues with textures/assets loading. From my personal exp, there's only a handful of games where 8GB is causing problems and even fewer games where fixing those issues would result in a noticeable downgrade in texture quality. "my 2020 GPU can only handle early 2020 level of textures in 2025, yuk"

Then there's games like the last of US who where really unpolished at launch. They somehow managed to make better-looking textures that used less VRAM in later patches :eek:
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But both AMD and Nvidia are looking at neural compression/decompression of textures to lower the impact on VRAM, FG is also getting optimized to lower the memory footprint.
Which one has "depth of field" enable or at ultra/ high, because that matters as many games have it heavily over done now.
 

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Those cards really are too old to be relevant for modern gaming.

Fair enough. Still, those really are too old for games made recently.


Fair point and the same is true for Epic and GOG.
I made the 680 play Once Human successfully. Iunno about you but if it works it works.
 
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I guess people still ignore the fact that a lot of games today can swap textures dynamically and progressively depending on the length of gaming session with lower quality ones. Looking at framerate or frametime doesn’t always reveals the truth.

Hey my frame buffer is at 7.5/8GB full
I’m good…
In the mean time:

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