Intel owners who have switched to AMD

[Arjai]

Good luck! I have 2 2700's running 24/7 100% Crunching World Community Grid. 1 to 1, my 2700 out numbers the T-3500 Dell w/ Xeon 5670 and does it for about 1/2 the power! At the time, the CPU and b450m Aorus MB cost me about the same as one of my T-3500 Workstations.

I also, recently, built a 3700x, for crunching. It is now motoring along 24/7 @99%, to save a miniscule amount of money, over time. The 3700x though, got an h-60, AIO 120mm liquid cooler, cause air wasn't cutting it. But, like I said, 24/7 99%, You don't probably need that for the 3600x. That is a monster, as you will soon know!

Best wishes and good luck w/ the build! Have fun!! P.S. I like building them, dare I say, more than using them? IDK, close but, I do love building them up and collecting the parts for it!

 

[freeagent]

A bit of a development.. I have a Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT and True Spirit 140 Power, only one came with an AM4 mount. And I am missing one plastic spacer out of four for the AMD mount. Dammit. I did order their bolt through kit for that one plastic spacer lol. Bonus to that is I now have a mount for my Ultra 120 Extreme lol. Le sigh.

So in the mean time I will probably have to use the box cooler. I will wipe their goop off and use my own

 

[INSTG8R]

A bit of a development.. I have a Thermalright Le Grand Macho RT and True Spirit 140 Power, only one came with an AM4 mount. And I am missing one plastic spacer out of four for the AMD mount. Dammit. I did order their bolt through kit for that one plastic spacer lol. Bonus to that is I now have a mount for my Ultra 120 Extreme lol. Le sigh.

So in the mean time I will probably have to use the box cooler. I will wipe their goop off and use my own

I’m on water but I pulled the cooler for my 3700X out just to have a look and it’s pretty impressive for “stock cooler”

 

[freeagent]

I haven’t pulled it out of the box yet, maybe I should instead of trying to find a picture on google lol. I’m not sure on my fan setup yet for the Meshify. I was going to start with 3 in 1 out. I’ll be using 120x38s so I won’t need many for strong front to rear flow in that tiny case. I could probably just get away with 3 fronts with no exhaust if I’m honest. I’ll have to wait and see how it runs. Using a fan on my LGMRT only gets me 200 useable MHz on my 3770K. I tested with linpack xtreme and can run semi passive up to 4500mhz and with fan can run it at 4700mhz. My ram was supposed to be here today, mobo Tuesday and I’m not sure when the nvme will be here they didn’t give me a number to track. And my mounting kit won’t be here until at least the sixth.

 

[INSTG8R]

I haven’t pulled it out of the box yet, maybe I should instead of trying to find a picture on google lol. I’m not sure on my fan setup yet for the Meshify. I was going to start with 3 in 1 out. I’ll be using 120x38s so I won’t need many for strong front to rear flow in that tiny case. I could probably just get away with 3 fronts with no exhaust if I’m honest. I’ll have to wait and see how it runs. Using a fan on my LGMRT only gets me 200 useable MHz on my 3770K. I tested with linpack xtreme and can run semi passive up to 4500mhz and with fan can run it at 4700mhz. My ram was supposed to be here today, mobo Tuesday and I’m not sure when the nvme will be here they didn’t give me a number to track. And my mounting kit won’t be here until at least the sixth.

Definitely use an exhaust.

 

[freeagent]

Oh I will. I used to run 7 fans in that case all of them thick and a TY-143 on the CPU, that case can flow a lot of air if you can move it

 

[Deleted member 24505]

I just went from an overclocked 6700k to a 5900x. The performance increase is astounding, both from the 20%+ IPC increase and having 3x as many cores. For context my R20 multicore score went from 2300 to 8200 and I'm using rubbish slow RAM on the 5900x.

Even puttering around Chrome and Windows is noticeably faster.

Highly recommended.

So what do you actually use the 3x as many cores for? Probably just gaming and browsing like a lot of ryzen users that witter on about its better because it has more cores(that they don’t even utilise) than Intel cpu’s

 

[freeagent]

I’m going to build an Intel rig too. But probably closer to the summer.. I’m not so sure this setup will scratch my tweaking itch.. it might, but it won’t do 5GHz+

 

[oxrufiioxo]

By then Rocket lake should be out and maybe actually worth buying.

 

[freeagent]

Yup, it’s gonna be good I think

 

[freeagent]

I was looking at an ASRock board and the ram I bought was not on their QVL, they didn't have much from that manufacturer. But on G.Skills site the board showed up on their QVL. The board I ordered has the ram I bought on their QVL and the board I bought is on G.Skills QVL. Ram problems are an adventure I would rather avoid with a brand new system I know nothing about.

 

[Sovsefanden]

I switched to Ryzen 1800X, replaced with 2700X and then switched back to 8700K because of wonky performance in tons of games and especially emulators

Things are looking way better now with 5000 series tho but I am not buying into a dead platform at this point

Ryzen 1000 and 2000 series were all about value/perf, but perf sucked in tons of stuff and clockspeeds were insanely low with all-core OC around 4 GHz (maybe 4.1 for 2000 series on average)

GloFo was (and is) a crappy node, way way worse than Intel 14nm - In reality GloFo 12nm is more like a 18-20nm node. NANOMETER has become a marketing / buzzword in later years, I look at perf



I will be waiting for 2022+ where we will see a leap, Intel will finally answer back with huge IPC uplifts (starting from Q1 2021 but won't get insane before late 21 or 22, we are looking at huge ipc uplifts)

If AMD still are competitive in 2022, I will give them a try, no doubt, but for gaming and emulation, my 8700K at 5.2 GHz simply is better er atleast as good as ANY Ryzen 5000 series, overclocked or not (no headroom on those CPUs)

2022 also means; DDR5 has been out for 1+ years and matured (higher speed, lower latency) + PCI Express 5.0 or 6.0 is out and standard

No reason at all for me to upgrade ANY COMPONENT before 2022

The rear competition starts in 2021, so far AMD has been battling Intel 2015 tech and first with Ryzen 3000 series they became relevant IMO

 

[freeagent]

But nearly every platform from Intel is a dead platform? I mean, you can usually only use 1 generation of CPU before they drop a new one with a new chipset. Sure AM4 is just about dead, but look at the life they got from it. When was the last time Intel did something like that, LGA 775? I'm not knockin Intel, they have been very good to me over the years.

I dunno.. I already paid for it so whatever. Ill try it out and if its awesome Ill keep it, if its not awesome I know I can sell it and get most of my money back.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

I’m going to build an Intel rig too. But probably closer to the summer.. I’m not so sure this setup will scratch my tweaking itch.. it might, but it won’t do 5GHz+

I'm sticking with my 9600k/z390-f till i see what Intel has to offer, i'm in no rush and don't need cores i won't use anyway.

 

[EarthDog]

2 CPUs per chipset, typically. Z490 has two, Z390 supported two... etc...

2022 also means; DDR5 has been out for 1+ years and matured (higher speed, lower latency) + PCI Express 5.0 or 6.0 is out and standard

No reason at all for me to upgrade ANY COMPONENT before 2022

With this mentality, you'll never upgrade. Because.........DDR6 will be out, PCIe 6... etc....

If you're ready to buy... just buy... (as the OP already did and this post is a day late and dollar short). DDR5 and PCIe 5.0 isn't going to mean squat.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

But nearly every platform from Intel is a dead platform? I mean, you can usually only use 1 generation of CPU before they drop a new one with a new chipset. Sure AM4 is just about dead, but look at the life they got from it. When was the last time Intel did something like that, LGA 775? I'm not knockin Intel, they have been very good to me over the years.

I dunno.. I already paid for it so whatever. Ill try it out and if its awesome Ill keep it, if its not awesome I know I can sell it and get most of my money back.

Tbh i don't mind buying a new board for a new chip gen, rather thatn using a new chip with a possibly 2 or 3 year old board. Onboard audio gets better so do storage controllers, Lan and USB controllers, so imo having to buy a new board for every new chip is not a minus for me. Just something for AMD fans to whine about.

 

[Sovsefanden]

2 CPUs per chipset, typically. Z490 has two, Z390 supported two... etc...

With this mentality, you'll never upgrade. Because.........DDR6 will be out, PCIe 6... etc....

If you're ready to buy... just buy... (as the OP already did and this post is a day late and dollar short). DDR5 and PCIe 5.0 isn't going to mean squat.

Not really, AM4 is a dead platform now, EoL actually

DDR4 is on the way out too, came out in 2014

Wait for 2022 for DDR5, PCIe5.0+, 5nm AMD on AM5 or their next gen platform and Intel will be on 7nm (comparable to TSMC 5nm)

My crystal ball says so

There's good and bad timse to upgrade

But nearly every platform from Intel is a dead platform? I mean, you can usually only use 1 generation of CPU before they drop a new one with a new chipset. Sure AM4 is just about dead, but look at the life they got from it. When was the last time Intel did something like that, LGA 775? I'm not knockin Intel, they have been very good to me over the years.

I dunno.. I already paid for it so whatever. Ill try it out and if its awesome Ill keep it, if its not awesome I know I can sell it and get most of my money back.

Intel supports 2 gens on a platform, nothing new

AMD were about to do the same thing, but community went crazy

Good luck using a 3000 or 5000 series Ryzen on a cheap 300 chipset board tho, it's a wonky experience for the most part

If you have to upgrade a CPU after 2 years, you bought the wrong chip to begin with. It's that simple. Ryzen 1000 and 2000 series sucked pretty bad if you ask me. 3000 and 5000 are much much better.

 

[EarthDog]

My crystal ball says so

Your crystal ball is, well, it's yours, lol. There is absolutely no need right now to wait for DDR5 or PCIe 5.0. None. PCIe 4.0 bandwidth isn't starved and won't be even with next gen GPUs. RAM bandwidth and speed isn't holding anything back if its running at the platform's max spec or overclocked. So, tell me why we should wait for it again?

That and the OP has already made his purchase so.............

 

[Deleted member 24505]

PCIe 5 will be more about storage/nvme controllers than GPU’s. by the time it comes along, the controllers will be ready for it.

 

[freeagent]

Well, I am still running 3rd gen i7, I know they last heheh. I didn’t know you get 2 gens per chipset though, pretty cool, and new to me. I’m ok with buying dead hardware for now. It was still cheaper than a midrange Intel build, and my kids will love it cuz it has go fast disco lights

I’ll build another Intel when the time is right for me.

 

[MustSeeMelons]

Going from a 4670K to a 3600 has been a pleasure. Was not expecting to pay less than I paid for the i5 for so much more performance.
The only thing that annoys me is that the task manager reads the frequency wrong, other than that everything has been peachy.

 

[Samiam66]

hello all

No complaints here made the switch year ago on 3700 x launch with X470 Taichi Mb ..and then built a second one with 2600x Cpu
on X570 phantom Gaming 4 MB ..prior to these had (5) Hp Z420 Xeon powered machines

highly recommend liquid cooling and a good case that can breathe

 

[freeagent]

Got my boot drive today, mobo should be here tomorrow, and not sure when my ram will get here.. it was supposed to be here last Friday, but was coming from the states so maybe by Friday.. not sure.

 

[MikeMurphy]

So what do you actually use the 3x as many cores for? Probably just gaming and browsing like a lot of ryzen users that witter on about its better because it has more cores(that they don’t even utilise) than Intel cpu’s

I have multiple RTSP streams to my computer and it does H264 encode on all of them in the background 24/7 365.

In addition to this encoding I actually use it for things, so the additional headroom on 12 cores is very much welcomed.

 

[Deleted member 24505]

I have multiple RTSP streams to my computer and it does H264 encode on all of them in the background 24/7 365.

In addition to this encoding I actually use it for things, so the additional headroom on 12 cores is very much welcomed.

Bit of an exception then, at least you are actually using the cores.