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[Space Lynx]

I think its a little disingenuous to categorize them as such. A perfect example that is evident in both the UK and US is Health Care worker were still hesitant before the mandates started to kick in.

From: American Nurses Association
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It's not like these people weren't seeing the effects first hand. Yet depending on the Health Care Network you had between 60-30% still unvaccinated. Now that the mandates kicked in you have anywhere between 5-18% of nurses shortages across the USA varied by state.

that 66% number would go away with nasal vaccine, lot of that fear is the mRNA/needle tied into that same category. people "feel" like a nasal vaccine would cause less damage long or short term. cause its less obtrusive.

seriously, the pandemic already cost us 5.7 trillion dollars, why not just throw 10 billion at nasal vaccines to speed them up and see what happens. seriously. I'd take one next week if CDC said it was safe. sniff sniff!

 

[the54thvoid]

Hi,
Like to see it somewhere mainstream media has blinders.

Here's just a few:

Spoiler

New Zealand reports first death linked to Pfizer vaccine

"This is the first case ... where a death in the days following vaccination has been linked to the Pfizer Covid-19 vaccine," the health ministry said.

www.nbcnews.com

The Latest: Australia getting vaccine in swap with Singapore

Australia says it has reached a deal with Singapore to acquire 500,000 doses of the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine next week in return for delivering the same number of shots to Singapore in December

abcnews.go.com

New Zealand reports first death following Pfizer vaccine shot

New Zealand on Monday announced it had recorded its first death linked to Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine after a woman suffered from myocarditis, which is known to be a rare side effect of in…

thehill.com

Bloomberg - Are you a robot?

To be fair, didnt see a CNN headine for it.

 

[Caring1]

seriously. I'd take one next week if CDC said it was safe. sniff sniff!

Turn it into a white powder and see how many snort it up.

 

[Ahhzz]

I think its a little disingenuous to categorize them as such. A perfect example that is evident in both the UK and US is Health Care worker were still hesitant before the mandates started to kick in.

From: American Nurses Association
View attachment 214839

It's not like these people weren't seeing the effects first hand. Yet depending on the Health Care Network you had between 60-30% still unvaccinated. Now that the mandates kicked in you have anywhere between 5-18% of nurses shortages across the USA varied by state.

I see no explanation of why there is a nurse shortage. I have seen burnout and frustration as possible reasons, but nothing solid. Where did you get your numbers, and did they give a reason why?

As for their reluctance to get vaccinated, without getting political, there are people from all walks of life in most fields, and just because one is able to get a degree in a medical field, for example, that does not eliminate that person's background in faith, race beliefs, sexual orientation, culture, trust in authority, ideology, or even level of common sense. Also, while nurses are well educated for their field, their education requirements are somewhat lower than doctors (for example, a chemistry course in most nursing channels vs organic chemistry courses for pre-med). "These people", as you put it, are also susceptible to misinformation that has been rampant since the early days of the pandemic. I have a wide variety of clientele, some with advanced degrees and patents in their field, who still insisted mid-spring that the pandemic was over and people needed to get back to their lives like normal. "No worse than a flu" still heard right before we got our vaccines in March. Intelligence and even first hand knowledge does not preclude one's ability to be blind to reality.

 

[Tatty_Two]

@Xzibit As far as I am aware, there is no legal requirement for healthcare workers in the UK to take the vaccine, there is a mandate for residential social care workers though. It is also tricky to compare stats relative to this topic between the US and the UK, if only because the UK is on track to reach around 85 - 90% of the adult population vaccinated, I suppose my point being that most of those concerns in your chart would apply to a lot of people out there in the UK including healthcare professionals, but in general even with any concerns most over here have still chosen to take the vaccine.

 

[Xzibit]

WebMD Huge Number of Hospital Workers Still Unvaccinated​

NE: HEALTHCARE WORKERS ARE GETTING VACCINATED, BUT MORE STILL NEED CONVINCING, US SURVEY FINDS​

NPR: Hospitals Face A Shortage Of Nurses As COVID Cases Soar​

BBC: Covid: Global healthcare workers missing out on jabs​

NN: US nurses handed $40k recruitment bonus amid dire worldwide nursing shortage​

ToSD: Nurse Shortages in California Reach Crisis Point Amid Delta Variant COVID Surge​

But burnout isn’t the only thing compounding California’s nursing shortage: The state’s new vaccine mandate for health care workers is already causing headaches for understaffed hospitals before it is even implemented. Some traveling nurses — who are in high demand nationwide — are turning down California assignments because they don’t want to get vaccinated.

 

[Ahhzz]

WebMD Huge Number of Hospital Workers Still Unvaccinated​

NE: HEALTHCARE WORKERS ARE GETTING VACCINATED, BUT MORE STILL NEED CONVINCING, US SURVEY FINDS​

NPR: Hospitals Face A Shortage Of Nurses As COVID Cases Soar​

BBC: Covid: Global healthcare workers missing out on jabs​

NN: US nurses handed $40k recruitment bonus amid dire worldwide nursing shortage​

ToSD: Nurse Shortages in California Reach Crisis Point Amid Delta Variant COVID Surge​

Yup. Burnout. Frustration. Not surprised.

 

[ThrashZone]

Hi,
Texas hospitals are mandating jabs.
And still they are surprised they are now short handed lol

 

[the54thvoid]

Piqued my interest in Texas, this Googled it's way up:

Texas has seen nearly 9,000 COVID-19 deaths since February. All but 43 were unvaccinated people.

Preliminary data shows 99.5% of COVID-related deaths in Texas were among unvaccinated people, according to the Department of State Health Services.

www.texastribune.org

Preliminary data:

Of the 8,787 people who have died in Texas due to COVID-19 since early February, at least 43 were fully vaccinated, the Texas Department of State Health Services said.


That means 99.5% of people who died due to COVID-19 in Texas from Feb. 8 to July 14 were unvaccinated, while 0.5% were the result of “breakthrough infections,” which DSHS defines as people who contracted the virus two weeks after being fully vaccinated.

 

[dragontamer5788]

Hi,
Texas hospitals are mandating jabs.
And still they are surprised they are now short handed lol

Hi.

A family friend + his father died because his unvaccinated nurse passed COVID19 to him earlier this year months after the vaccine was available for nurses (but not the general public yet). True story. And as I said last time: funerals before the vaccines were available suck. You don't want to have COVID19 spread to anyone else, so you end up having the tiniest of funerals with just a few pictures posted on Facebook.

We have the vaccine now, we can prevent such tragedies. People who go into hospitals are often in a compromised state: their bodies are stressed for various reasons and are physically weaker. Nurses / doctors should have the vaccine especially, to prevent the spread from doctor/nurse to patient.

 

[Xzibit]

Hi.

A family friend + his father died because his unvaccinated nurse passed COVID19 to him earlier this year months after the vaccine was available for nurses (but not the general public yet). True story. And as I said last time: funerals before the vaccines were available suck. You don't want to have COVID19 spread to anyone else, so you end up having the tiniest of funerals with just a few pictures posted on Facebook.

Civil Suit. If one can prove transmission happened under their care.

Piqued my interest in Texas, this Googled it's way up:

Texas has seen nearly 9,000 COVID-19 deaths since February. All but 43 were unvaccinated people.

Preliminary data shows 99.5% of COVID-related deaths in Texas were among unvaccinated people, according to the Department of State Health Services.

www.texastribune.org

Preliminary data:

Same story plays out

The agency said nearly 75% of the 43 vaccinated people who died were fighting a serious underlying condition, such as diabetes, heart disease, high blood pressure, cancer or chronic lung disease.

Additionally, it said 95% of the 43 vaccinated people who died were 60 or older, and that a majority of them were white and a majority were men.

 

[the54thvoid]

Yeah - same as in UK. Most vaxed folk dying are still elderly. Most with other issues.

 

[LordFarquaad]

Yeah - same as in UK. Most vaxed folk dying are still elderly. Most with other issues.

thats 95% of covid deaths before the vaccine also

 

[dragontamer5788]

Civil Suit. If one can prove transmission happened under their care.

Because money will bring back the lives of dead people? You can't just sue people to prevent wrongful deaths. But you can spread the vaccine and support vaccine mandates to prevent such deaths in the future.

In any case, I'm sure that wrongful deaths / civil suits are in play, and why free-market hospital systems around the country are beginning to require COVID19 vaccinations for their publicly facing staff. Its not like these orders are coming from the government ya know, its the private hospital systems that have made these declarations.

Texas Health Resources Initiates Mandatory COVID-19 Vaccine Policy

www.texashealth.org

That ain't government. That's a company that made the policy.

 

[Xzibit]

Because money will bring back the lives of dead people? You can't just sue people to prevent wrongful deaths. But you can spread the vaccine and support vaccine mandates to prevent such deaths in the future.

Well if you know it happened and can prove it. Why not. If you think someone acted irresponsible and caused those deaths wouldn't try'n be worth it?

 

[dragontamer5788]

Well if you know it happened and can prove it. Why not. If you think someone acted irresponsible and caused those deaths wouldn't try'n be worth it?

I'll bring up the idea to the the grieving mother/wife. It'd be her call ultimately, but she's also a nurse who has dealt with plenty of bullshit malpractice situations before. She'd likely know more about what is, or isn't, within grounds of malpractice / civil suits. EDIT: Maybe. Really, she'd know more about it, if she's already decided and/or decided against, then she'd really know more than me on that front.

In any case: getting COVID19 from your nurse while on another treatment is an exceptionally tragic story. Making sure that the doctors/nurses are vaccinated just makes sense to me, to prevent such tragedies in the future (or if not 100% prevent, at least prevent 60% or whatever the anti-transmission efficacy of the vaccine is)

 

[Caring1]

Yup. Burnout. Frustration. Not surprised.

Experience from my recent stay in the coronary ward is there's a lot of staff that have to quarantine due to close contact, those remaining have to cover shifts, one nurse said she was doing 2.5 shifts straight with no sleep, having a 6 hour break then back on another, it's no wonder they burn out.
My partner recently had surgery too, when she went in they had two Covid wards, less than a week later they had converted seven into covid wards and more positive cases kept arriving.

 

[Space Lynx]

Experience from my recent stay in the coronary ward is there's a lot of staff that have to quarantine due to close contact, those remaining have to cover shifts, one nurse said she was doing 2.5 shifts straight with no sleep, having a 6 hour break then back on another, it's no wonder they burn out.
My partner recently had surgery too, when she went in they had two Covid wards, less than a week later they had converted seven into covid wards and more positive cases kept arriving.

As much money as nurses make, my friends that are RN's fresh out of college make around 65k a year... base salary... I imagine some of these nurses are pulling triple digit salaries for last year and this year. I know it's rough on them and many have quit, but those that make it, are going to be rich beyond their wildest dreams. I'd rather be poor than have that job though, which is why I didn't major in nursing to begin with, lol

 

[Ahhzz]

As much money as nurses make, my friends that are RN's fresh out of college make around 65k a year... base salary... I imagine some of these nurses are pulling triple digit salaries for last year and this year. I know it's rough on them and many have quit, but those that make it, are going to be rich beyond their wildest dreams. I'd rather be poor than have that job though, which is why I didn't major in nursing to begin with, lol

yeah, I do ok as a first responder, and actually always enjoyed the med drills in the military (flopper!! lol), but the stress of dealing with that sort of mess, plus all the rest of the non-emergency crap you have to deal with: no thank you. Good pay, horrible work environment. Got a good friend in CT in anesthesiology, and even her billet is a nightmare.... I'll pass and stick to users who insist that the "Your password has expired!!" emails really are legit, no matter how many emails I send them telling them "Never!!!" *sigh*

 

[Space Lynx]

yeah, I do ok as a first responder, and actually always enjoyed the med drills in the military (flopper!! lol), but the stress of dealing with that sort of mess, plus all the rest of the non-emergency crap you have to deal with: no thank you. Good pay, horrible work environment. Got a good friend in CT in anesthesiology, and even her billet is a nightmare.... I'll pass and stick to users who insist that the "Your password has expired!!" emails really are legit, no matter how many emails I send them telling them "Never!!!" *sigh*

My school I teach at actually makes us change our passwords every 90 days, and they send you an email every day for 15 days in a row when it comes near the 90 day mark. Outside emails though don't make it to your Inbox though, so if I were to go use my personal email right now to mail my work email, it wouldn't go through, I'd never see anything in my Inbox on work email. So I suppose that limits the risk by a ton.

On topic: I still think the data will show nasal based vaccines will save the day more so than mRNA needle based vaccines. Especially since the nasal vaccine creates antibodies in the mucus, stopping Covid in its tracks! The needle based vaccines do not create this mucus antibody.

I am a firm believer we need a new warp speed on the nasal vaccine!

 

[HTC]

Portugal's vaccination report has just been updated (click for full picture):



- top left --- people with @ least one dose
- top right --- people fully vaccinated: includes people with just one dose that had a previous COVID infection as well as people that took the single dose vaccine
- middle left --- age groups
- middle center --- @ least one dose: people and percentage
- middle right --- fully vaccinated: people and percentage
- bottom left --- doses the country has received
- bottom right --- doses the country has administered

Youngsters aged 12 to 17 have had vaccination weekends dedicated to them and, after 3 weeks, 74% have already taken their 1st dose : 3 weekends ago was dedicated to those aged 16 to 17 and these last 2 weekends were dedicated to those aged 12 to 15. Vaccination scheduled for people aged 18+ were interrupted in these 3 weekends to conduct the youngster's vaccinations, and this was done in preparation to school, in order to try and avoid disrupting classes due to COVID cases: while it isn't a guarantee, it certainly minimizes that risk.

We now have throughout the country a setup where one doesn't need an appointment to get their vaccine: all people need to do is show up @ vaccination centers that have what we call "open house" (not all centers do), and they'll get their vaccination. The only caveat is that, wherever they get the 1st dose is the place they're required to get their 2nd dose. This was not the case until about a month ago or so because one had to be called by Health Services to get their vaccination doses.

Portugal is expecting to be 85% fully vaccinated by September's end, which is almost 1 month ahead of schedule: right now, we're @ 73% fully vaccinated.

Roughly 12.5% of our population can't be vaccinated yet (kids under 12) and roughly 2.5% don't want / are afraid to be vaccinated.

 

[Tatty_Two]

As much money as nurses make, my friends that are RN's fresh out of college make around 65k a year... base salary... I imagine some of these nurses are pulling triple digit salaries for last year and this year. I know it's rough on them and many have quit, but those that make it, are going to be rich beyond their wildest dreams. I'd rather be poor than have that job though, which is why I didn't major in nursing to begin with, lol

It seems your nurses earn at least double what they do over here, possibly more. It is estimated over here (through surveys and via medical/healthcare unions) that by the end of this year half of all 55+ (pension age) nursing staff will leave due to a number of factors but mainly around pay and pandemic related, a quarter of under 55's have said they will career change in the next year also, aside from that before the Pandemic the NHS was around 50,000 down already for a couple of years at least so they are probably looking to recruit 200,000 more soon......... good luck with that.

 

[dragontamer5788]

It seems your nurses earn at least double what they do over here, possibly more.

USA has a nursing shortage before COVID19 hit. We've been having to raise prices + set our immigration policy to be extremely friendly towards nurses.

COVID19 has just made that go overdrive. The higher wages are pulling nurses out of retirement and back into work, and we've cut back on regulations allowing for more student nurses to participate in the workforce. Its a temporary measure but... gotta do what we gotta do. Supply / Demand and all that.

 

[dragontamer5788]

14-million 1st vaccine doses in August compared to 10-million in July.

+40% vaccine uptick, which is a good sign. Too late for this surge but better late than never. Besides, the winter 2020 surge was worse than summer 2020. I'm a bit of a pessimist on this: I'm betting 2021 winter will be worse than 2021 summer.

All these people getting vaccinated now will be ready for the winter surge.

 

[Xzibit]

USA has a nursing shortage before COVID19 hit. We've been having to raise prices + set our immigration policy to be extremely friendly towards nurses.

COVID19 has just made that go overdrive. The higher wages are pulling nurses out of retirement and back into work, and we've cut back on regulations allowing for more student nurses to participate in the workforce. Its a temporary measure but... gotta do what we gotta do. Supply / Demand and all that.

American Nurses Association just sent a letter to the Department of Health and Human Services to declare staffing shortages a national crisis.

Maybe it will pop up in the news tomorrow