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Because they have to work for economic reasons...shelter in place not viable. People with resources can afford to shelter in place even if the government tells them they don't have to.
 

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There has been some research in the UK that suggests the more disadvantaged areas have been hit considerably worse than the more affluent ones, in some cases, in areas of similar population, triple the infection rates and more than double the fatalities..... dunno if that could be a factor in your example.
Sure, that's true to a degree in Sweden too, but then there are places like this tiny place, with a population of less than 1,700 people, yet it has the highest death rate per 10,000 people in Sweden...
Sure, in total only 19 people have died, but that's over 1% of the population there, which is kind of insane, especially as it's not a densely populated area either.
 

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There's got to be something there like a slaughterhouse or nursing homes that's caused the outbreak. I did some digging and can't find anything because resources describing that would be in Swedish.
 
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There has been some research in the UK that suggests the more disadvantaged areas have been hit considerably worse than the more affluent ones, in some cases, in areas of similar population, triple the infection rates and more than double the fatalities..... dunno if that could be a factor in your example.
Lower income regions tend to be high density housing.
They are literally living on top of each other.
 
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That and being poor in America means you are less likely to be insured, more likely to have lower quality hospitals, may find yourself in a food desert (no fresh food in 2+ miles) without a car, putting you at higher risk of diabetes, and are more likely to live in a multi-tenant unit (with others doing the same). Often these communities are largely minority, exposing them to other risks. In NYC police were disproportionately issuing Covid distancing tickets to black residents, despite photos of thousands of predominately white groups breaking rules on the lawns of Central and Prospect parks.

From there, many ended up in jail, and sometimes can’t post bail after arraignment, leaving them in jails longer, where social distancing is impossible and jails/prisons are largely considered the largest non-state locality hot spot in the country (Native American nations being second, who are also economically insecure, and are forced to close their casinos during the pandemic, a significant source of income for many communities; numbers on immigrant detention centers are less clear, but also a known hot spot).

Worse, in cities like NYC, most “essential workers” are minorities who live in those same communities, and sometimes undocumented. So the nurses, hospital staff, transit workers, cab drivers, grocery workers, restaurant workers, delivery drivers, potentially teachers in cities like
in the fall, etc, are also often those who are at greatest risk of infection.

Ah yes, and these communities sometimes face unemployment rates of 50% or higher (higher if counting real unemployment — adding those who haven’t looked for a job in 6+ months), with African Americans leading ethnicities in unemployment applications since February.

The results are devastating in the US, with African Americans dying at twice the rate o white Americans, where ethnicity has been reported.







 

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Because they have to work for economic reasons...shelter in place not viable. People with resources can afford to shelter in place even if the government tells them they don't have to.
Not when the state is paying them.
 

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There's got to be something there like a slaughterhouse or nursing homes that's caused the outbreak. I did some digging and can't find anything because resources describing that would be in Swedish.
Nursing home most likely, since that's where the highest death tolls have been in general in Sweden.

Lower income regions tend to be high density housing.
They are literally living on top of each other.
Yeah, no, this is BS. That might apply to where you live, but where I live, that's how most people live in the cities, as there's very limited space. Also see Hong Kong, Singapore, Tokyo, in fact, most major cities in Asia. So please keep that opinion to yourself.
 
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Nursing home most likely, since that's where the highest death tolls have been in general in Sweden.


Yeah, no, this is BS. That might apply to where you live, but where I live, that's how most people live in the cities, as there's very limited space. Also see Hong Kong, Singapore, Tokyo, in fact, most major cities in Asia. So please keep that opinion to yourself.
Wow touchy.
You don't have to agree, but that doesn't make it bullshit OR wrong.
 

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Wow touchy.
You don't have to agree, but that doesn't make it bullshit OR wrong.
Considering millions and millions of people live in high density housing, without being anything remotely close to poor, it's most definitely something very close to horse manure.
In fact, in most cities in Asia, a lot of the high-density housing the most expensive housing, as it's the housing closest to the city centre.
In India, a lot of the high-density housing is new developments where only well off people can afford to live.
Maybe widen your views of the world before making statements that apply to your local circumstances, but not in other parts of the world.
 

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Portugal's numbers have NOT been updated yet:

Screenshot from 2020-06-05 17-02-18.png Screenshot from 2020-06-06 17-23-04.png

The only difference between these two pics is the hospitalized and ICU numbers, with even the date and time on the report being the same:

- 421 hospitalized --- 54 less
- 58 in ICU --- 6 less

My only guess is something got botched with the aggregation of the numbers and that's why this happened.

Still, this is the 1st time the daily report hasn't been published yet, with it being around 5 to 6 hours late already, @ the time i'm posting this.
 
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Considering millions and millions of people live in high density housing, without being anything remotely close to poor, it's most definitely something very close to horse manure.
In fact, in most cities in Asia, a lot of the high-density housing the most expensive housing, as it's the housing closest to the city centre.
In India, a lot of the high-density housing is new developments where only well off people can afford to live.
Maybe widen your views of the world before making statements that apply to your local circumstances, but not in other parts of the world.
All of this is true but forgets that across Asia and SE Asia South America and other regions with developed economies, that low-income people also live in high density housing but often in even greater density — single family unit with a single family vs single family unit with a family per room, multi-generational households, etc.

Of course this varies between region and culture (you’re actually less likely to see this kind of poverty across Europe than Asia), but both phenomena are universal in highly populated areas across the globe.
 
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Ah, but someone knew we needed to be prepared for something exactly like this.


And I know the immediate reaction will be something to the effect of "Even a broken clock is right twice a day/once a day (for the military)". But let's face it. The previous administration was right. We should have had a plan and the framework of a response for this, but #45 has done everything it can to tear down anything the previous administration put in place, simple because of who did it.

Not only that, Obama had his reasons for public healthcare as well, and they're all good ones - never mind the way Obamacare was eventually rolled out and where it is now :p

Considering millions and millions of people live in high density housing, without being anything remotely close to poor, it's most definitely something very close to horse manure.
In fact, in most cities in Asia, a lot of the high-density housing the most expensive housing, as it's the housing closest to the city centre.
In India, a lot of the high-density housing is new developments where only well off people can afford to live.
Maybe widen your views of the world before making statements that apply to your local circumstances, but not in other parts of the world.

Maybe so, but the high density housing of upper class is very hygienic, while the lower classes' is not. Clean, running water for example, sanitation... take a look at India's slums for a second. Both high density, yes...

Its definitely a factor on top of the other ones. If the other conditions are good, high density housing has low impact. But if they're not, its a catalyst for infection spread. And let's not forget the internet. High incomes can order pretty much everything to their door. Low incomes go out to get it.
 
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Maybe so, but the high density housing of upper class is very hygienic, while the lower classes' is not. Clean, running water for example, sanitation... take a look at India's slums for a second. Both high density, yes...

Its definitely a factor on top of the other ones. If the other conditions are good, high density housing has low impact. But if they're not, its a catalyst for infection spread. And let's not forget the internet. High incomes can order pretty much everything to their door. Low incomes go out to get it.
Well, I'm obviously not from India, but the slums I saw when I visited wasn't what I'd call high-density, as most of it was "huts/shacks" for a lack of a better word that were built wherever there was some free space (This excludes the poor sods that lived under the motorway bridges and overpasses). Yes, hygiene was terrible in those parts for sure, but it was far lower density than the new apartment complexes that were being built next door.

I can't say I know of any apartment buildings in Taiwan that doesn't have clean, running water...
Not seen it anywhere else that I have travelled in Asia either for that matter. Yes, there are poor people in most, if not all Asian countries, but they don't seem to live in apartment buildings. They live in "huts/shacks" for the most part, be that on poles in the water, on a stretch of beach or in a dark dank corner in a city.

So no, high-density buildings is not what is the cause for the spread of this virus.

Poor information, poor hygiene and so on are much more likely reasons for the spread.

In fact, the reason some areas of Stockholm are as affected as they have been, has been the language barrier, as there's such a mix of people living there, many who don't speak Swedish or English and as such, they were the last to get information about the virus and many of them didn't seek medical help, as they weren't aware of why they were sick.

I do agree with you that low income people have to go out and buy their daily necessities, but a lot of them are also forced to go to work, as they can't live at all with their meagre incomes. I'm a bit pissed off with a very well off friend of mine in India, as he's been complaining that he can't go to the office, yet he lives in a walled off community with a huge garden in a huge house. They also have servants and security guards that can handle all outside interactions for them. Yet he's annoyed by the fact that he has to stay at home...
 
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Portugal's numbers have been updated, @ last:

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On the left, yesterday's numbers and on the right, today's numbers (click for full picture):

- 34351 confirmed infected --- 382 more
- 20807 recovered --- 281 more
- 1474 fatalities --- 9 more
- 337333 suspected cases --- 2410 more
- 873998 tests taken --- not updated
- 1813 waiting for test results --- 177 more
- 29013 under watch from authorities --- 925 more
- 414 hospitalized --- 7 less
- 57 in ICU --- 1 less

Portugal has conducted mass testing in the identified hotspots that were inflating our daily numbers, such as those of 5 big construction companies in which all employees were tested: though not all the results are in, we found a significant number of infected people with no symptoms.

Still, this is the 1st time the daily report hasn't been published yet, with it being around 5 to 6 hours late already, @ the time i'm posting this.

Turns out the problem had something to do with Microsoft and it didn't affect solely Portugal, it seems.
 
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Not when the state is paying them.
They're not. Talking countries like Brazil, India, Argentina, Mexico, Iraq, Indonesia, Philippines, Vietnam, etc.
 

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Concerning high density living. I believe the inference is: many people within similar family groups (or extended family) inhabiting the same, small proximal space. Not to be confused with luxury high rise living which is population dense in a building footprint.

I think we can all agree, there is a vast difference between poverty and wealth with regard to how the density is 'experienced'.

So, please, no more arguing about that. Ta.
 

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This is a few weeks old but still interesting:
Parking lots for cruse ships. :laugh:
 
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Polite notice, I've deleted and edited some things. This about stats and maps for COVID.

Keep it on track please.

Back to theme....

Looks like it'll be more difficult to get the numbers from Brazil:


I think a lot of countries that 'diminished' the virus will have similar outcomes. Yes, we know it's not a lethal threat but it's prevalance in the population makes it a big killer. Ignore at your peril.
 
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Portugal's numbers have been updated:

Screenshot from 2020-06-06 20-57-53.png Screenshot from 2020-06-07 14-07-50.png

On the left, yesterday's numbers and on the right, today's numbers (click for full picture):

- 34693 confirmed infected --- 342 more
- 20995 recovered --- 188 more
- 1479 fatalities --- 5 more
- 338500 suspected cases --- 1167 more
- 873998 tests taken --- not updated ... again ...
- 1352 waiting for test results --- 461 less
- 29312 under watch from authorities --- 299 more
- 398 hospitalized --- 16 less
- 58 in ICU --- 1 more

The great news of the day is that we had our daily lowest number of deaths since March 22nd.
 
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Well, I'm obviously not from India, but the slums I saw when I visited wasn't what I'd call high-density, as most of it was "huts/shacks" for a lack of a better word that were built wherever there was some free space (This excludes the poor sods that lived under the motorway bridges and overpasses). Yes, hygiene was terrible in those parts for sure, but it was far lower density than the new apartment complexes that were being built next door.

I can't say I know of any apartment buildings in Taiwan that doesn't have clean, running water...
Not seen it anywhere else that I have travelled in Asia either for that matter. Yes, there are poor people in most, if not all Asian countries, but they don't seem to live in apartment buildings. They live in "huts/shacks" for the most part, be that on poles in the water, on a stretch of beach or in a dark dank corner in a city.

So no, high-density buildings is not what is the cause for the spread of this virus.

Poor information, poor hygiene and so on are much more likely reasons for the spread.

In fact, the reason some areas of Stockholm are as affected as they have been, has been the language barrier, as there's such a mix of people living there, many who don't speak Swedish or English and as such, they were the last to get information about the virus and many of them didn't seek medical help, as they weren't aware of why they were sick.

I do agree with you that low income people have to go out and buy their daily necessities, but a lot of them are also forced to go to work, as they can't live at all with their meagre incomes. I'm a bit pissed off with a very well off friend of mine in India, as he's been complaining that he can't go to the office, yet he lives in a walled off community with a huge garden in a huge house. They also have servants and security guards that can handle all outside interactions for them. Yet he's annoyed by the fact that he has to stay at home...

The density argument mostly applies to the ability to maintain your lockdown, to what degree can you self isolate. That is also the main difference between urban areas and countryside: density. If you never catch a virus, you can't get ill from it and everything else becomes irrelevant. In any high density area your chances of getting are high, and then the poverty element starts to swing the hammer; can you stop working, can you get stuff to your door, can you avoid infecting others... they're all directly related to density. Similarly, slums are just fine, but when the shit hits the fan, there are no ways of stopping it and self isolation is impossible.

Its wrong to think about this in terms of the individual and trying to picture his day to day. This thing is asymptomatic. What matters is what you can do when you get infected.

Note that density, nor poor info, nor poor hygiene on their own are ANY sort of factor in infection risk. If you can always maintain your lockdown, your 'reasons' are as invalid as density is :) No infection = no need for information, or distancing, or hygiene. This is about the big numbers and all factors play a varying role and when some of those stack up, shit gets worse.

Once a virus is out in the wild, density is the main factor for spread. Low density = much less chances for it to move to new hosts. The rest all comes after that. The fact that now both dense and not so dense areas, and irrespective of poverty get hit, is not really a fact you can use to counter that either... its about that first infection spread.
 
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Portugal's numbers have been updated:

Screenshot from 2020-06-07 14-07-50.png Screenshot from 2020-06-08 16-27-27.png

On the left, yesterday's numbers and on the right, today's numbers (click for full picture):

- 34885 confirmed infected --- 192 more
- 21156 recovered --- 161 more
- 1485 fatalities --- 6 more
- 339624 suspected cases --- 1124 more
- 873998 tests taken --- not updated ... yet again ...
- 1603 waiting for test results --- 251 more
- 28791 under watch from authorities --- 521 less
- 366 hospitalized --- 32 less
- 55 in ICU --- 3 less

Single digit daily death toll for the 3rd day in a row: last time this happened was from March 21st to 23rd. Also a sizable decrease in hospitalized as well.
 
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Have not updated for a while, as I have gone throw an emotional period of bad mood and worried about my job situation as I have already been away from my real education that are car mechanic for half a year now and it's not over yet as more and more joins the unemployment line and just sink lower down the unemployment line for its no secret that those that have not been so long unemployed are more attractive and technically developing goes fast for cars, so you get fast behind the knowledge as well. It's really hard to find a job and getting one decline after another is really frustrating after all the work I have put in to it so far. Enough of the bad.

So after a little month, we have today taken on phase 3 of reopen Denmark. And we are still seeing numbers going down even after we started reopen back in Easter in April. So that is good so far. But now we are reopen some of my biggest concern about a return of the virus. That is fitness centers and swimming centers among some of those who open now in phase 3.

latest numbers are.
Total of infected: 11962
Total recovered: 10792
Total dead: 593
Total active cases: 577 (about a month ago, this number whas around 1300-1400 cases)
Hospitalized: 79
Critical condition: 16 where 7 of these people are in respirator.

So far numbers are going the right way and that is down. But what I also notice is that more and more people slacking on the corona rules like distance and hand shake. Just don't hope this will ruin everything we have accomplished so far.
 
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Maryland drops below 1000 hospitalizations today.

Unfortunately, there was a very large protest that happened in the area on Saturday / Sunday. I think that brings a very large risk of a 2nd wave about 1 to 2 weeks from now. So I'll be keeping an eye on the numbers.
 
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