New MSI GTX 1060 6GB Getting Lousy Fire Strike Score

[Vya Domus]

aherm... 14k is a 1070 generally

this is a 970 level 980 is 12k and indeed a 1060 is rather in between with a 10k average, but you confirm the driver issue (although that score is in the norm of other 970 on the 3dmark website, but for your score it's probably a run variance since 1060 and not 970)



never said the opposite nvidia drivers are crap ... i know that since i had my 980 back (~ 2yrs iirc)

also yep 1060 in between 970 and 980 as you can see in my quoted post.

tho as i said ... Firestrike should not be used to see "does my card do fine" since most high score in the GPU category you would seek, would not be stock, unless there is a filter per mhz Core/vRAM that would enable you to see differences between similar clocked card, that's why i wrote to Sasqui to downgrade the driver before even thinking "my gpu is bad i need to RMA" when it's likely behaving correctly but has drivers issues.

my driver are stable in any games i play, performances are top notch, but firestrike crash in the middle of the demo ... is there an issue with my 1070? likely not ...

I am talking strictly about the graphics score , why are you all fixated on the overall score , it says nothing. The issue with OP is his graphics score which is half of what it should be : 7K .That's the cause of the low benchmark score.

13-14K is GTX 980 / GTX 1060 for GRAPHICS. This score indicates if there is something wrong. It should also not vary at all too much even with different CPU's. I mean I use something much slower yet this score is spot on.

 

[P4-630]

but firestrike crash in the middle of the demo

Did you OC it? I seem to remember you always run it OC'd... Try running at at stock speed.

The issue with OP is his graphics score which is half of what it should be : 7K .That's the cause of the low benchmark score. 13-14K is GTX 980 / GTX 1060 for GRAPHICS.

Makes sense, my 1070 has a 21.169 graphics score OC'd.

 

[GreiverBlade]

I am talking strictly about the graphics score , why are you all fixated on the overall score , it says nothing. The issue with OP is his graphics score which is half of what it should be : 7K .That's the cause of the low benchmark score.

13-14K is GTX 980 / GTX 1060 for GRAPHICS. This score indicates if there is something wrong. It should also not vary at all too much even with different CPU's. I mean I use something much slower yet this score is spot on.

ahhhh i though you did read your score wrong mea culpa

Did you OC it? I seem to remember you always run it OC'd... Try running at at stock speed.

if only Firestrike crash ... and my games are stable i don't mainly care ... tho i will try stock later maybe.

 

[Sasqui]

mmhhh not even 12k, 7k and 9k seems like a normal run variance (well 9k anyway)
VALID RESULT
SCORE 10 561 with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060-6GB(1x) and Intel Core i5-6500
SCORE 12 059 with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 980(1x) and Intel Core i5-6600K
SCORE 9 271 with NVIDIA GeForce GTX 970(1x) and Intel Core i5-4590 Processor

Since all cards (TWO different 290x's), a 1070 and the 1060 were run in the EXACT same system, all other variables aren't variables. The two 290x's were within <1% of eachother and the 1070 performed as expected, on multiple runs, only varied by <1%. The 1060 on the other hand... is consistently shitty

I will run it in the "clean" box, the 3570k system in my specs, and see where it lands.

The other thing I haven't done is check for a BIOS update: https://us.msi.com/Graphics-card/support/GeForce-GTX-1060-GAMING-6G.html#down-utility&Win7 64

 

[Laki89]

If a GTX 1070 and 1060 run with same driver, while GTX 1070 performing as expected and GTX 1060 performing bad,
there is no other conclusion that GTX 1060 that you have is faulty (call it as you wish: faulty, broken, half-dead...)

You should try that graphics card in another pc , but i doubt that anything will change
also, try running any other test beside firestrike

Edit:
Here is what i get with 4 year old in end of life GTX 660 ti:

 

[Sasqui]

If a GTX 1070 and 1060 run with same driver, while GTX 1070 performing as expected and GTX 1060 performing bad,
there is no other conclusion that GTX 1060 that you have is faulty (call it as you wish: faulty, broken, half-dead...)

You should try that graphics card in another pc , but i doubt that anything will change
also, try running any other test beside firestrike

Edit:
Here is what i get with 4 year old in end of life GTX 660 ti:

Yea, my graphics score is 7,783, way far below what it should be, your GTX 660 is getting 6,203! Coupled with the card power draw in GPUz, it's pointing at a bad card. But might as well try in the other rig.

 

[OneMoar]

these are my runs
http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/13797859

http://www.3dmark.com/3dm/13775269

my first thought is turn adaptive sync off in the nv cp

the TDP reading is likely a culprit

 

[rtwjunkie]

Yea, my graphics score is 7,783, way far below what it should be, your GTX 660 is getting 6,203! Coupled with the card power draw in GPUz, it's pointing at a bad card. But might as well try in the other rig.

You're right, that Graphics score is way low. I just ran a GTX 980 system, and overall score 11,410, with the Graphics score being 13, 970. Close to being double, when the cards should score nearly the same. I think you might need to trade it in. Are other benchmarks backing up this trend?

 

[Sasqui]

Are other benchmarks backing up this trend?

Not yet. My lawn has turned into a meadow, so I probably won't get to more fuckstration with the card till later this week.

The TDP being at 495% even in idle either means a driver problem, or bad card. Nothing to do with Fire Strike.

Who has experience with a Newegg RMA? I've heard they suck lately

 

[OneMoar]

I have never had a issue with neweggs return policy

 

[Sasqui]

I have never had a issue with neweggs return policy

In the case of this card, they have a replacement only policy. And the form to fill out about why the card is defective, yadda yadda. If they test the card, it'll appear fine. Albeit a little choppy in firestrike, no artifacts. They don't allow an image upload from what I saw on the return request page.

 

[OneMoar]

there is no form just request a return

newegg does not test cards nobody tests cards they do quick visual inspection thats it

 

[Sasqui]

Here's the online form

 

[OneMoar]

don't type anything just leave it blank or just write defective

 

[Sasqui]

Chat session with Newegg. They seem confused but at least I got an answer

10:34:24 AM

System: Connecting...
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System: Your reference number for this chat session is 2265072
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Mike: Initial Question/Comment: Question about a defective return
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10:39:20 AM

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System: Connected with Will F.
10:39:20 AM

System: Hi Mike! My name is Will F..
10:40:35 AM

Will F.: May I have your question in details, Mike?
10:42:30 AM

Mike: I've got a graphics card that needs returning. What happens if it's not in stock?
10:45:01 AM

Will F.: Thank you. If item is out of stock when RMA is completed, refund will be processed.
10:46:53 AM

Mike: Ok, thank you. One other question, the card came with a free game code. I haven't used it, how is that factored in?
10:47:36 AM

Will F.: Do you mean how to redeem it?
10:48:19 AM

Mike: No, if I return the card
10:50:10 AM

Will F.: I am sorry about it. The card is non-refundable. So we are unable to process refund for the card. You can see its return policy in Warranty and Return tab on item page:
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137018&Tpk=14-137-018
10:50:11 AM

Mike: It shows as having a value, how is that factored in to the return if it's refunded
10:50:48 AM

Will F.: In addition, if the card is still out of stock when RMA is completed, we process refund. Based on it, we will process refund for the game.
10:51:42 AM

Mike: Yes, I know the card is only returnable for a replacement. If there is no replacement available. Oh, ok, the game will get refunded too. Like i said, i haven't redeemed the game and won't unless I get a replacement card
10:53:30 AM

Mike: I think I'm all set. If you don't have the card in stock when I return it, I'll get a full refund for $279.99, correct? (order nuumber 334139758)
10:54:22 AM

Will F.: Correct.
10:54:27 AM

Will F.: Thank you for giving me an opportunity to serve you. Before we end our chat, I want to invite you to take our Customer Satisfaction Survey. To take the survey, all you need to do is click the "Exit" button at the top of the chat window. Your feedback is greatly appreciated. Thank you for contacting Newegg. I hope you have an Eggcellent day!
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System: The session has ended!

 

[rtwjunkie]

Wow, it's like you each were having separate conversations, instead of the same one!

 

[Sasqui]

Wow, it's like you each were having separate conversations, instead of the same one!

To their credit, I was having a phone conversation with a big client at the same time as the chat

 

[OneMoar]

I told you the less information you give them the better =/

 

[Sasqui]

I told you the less information you give them the better =/

And what information should I have not given?

 

[OneMoar]

I would have just said I need a RMA on X and left it at that

I would't even bother with chat

 

[jboydgolfer]

I have never had a issue with neweggs return policy

It's recently been changed to a replacement only rule(for MANY items) The shit pile that newegg has turned into is slowly growing more and more

 

[OneMoar]

It's recently been changed to a replacement only rule(for MANY items) The shit pile that newegg has turned into is slowly growing more and more

source ?

the vga replacement only has been a thing for awhile because miners where buying cards running them for 25 days and then returning them

 

[jboydgolfer]

source ?

newegg.com

why it was changed could be the reason you stated, but regardless of reason, it is still the policy.

btw, that pic was from a GTX1050, not like a Rx580 or any mining GPU.

 

[OneMoar]

anouther thing cryptominers have ruined

 

[jboydgolfer]

anouther thing cryptominers have ruined

as far as that, i cant comment...only what i know . but i have to admit that reason seems VERY plausible, if i had to bet, id put money on miners.