NVIDIA 2025 International CES Keynote: Liveblog

[Chaitanya]

Undoubtedly, but if you can just hold off for a couple of months, you should be able to get something at close to MSRP

In India atleast these high end cards are always available at MSRP just that they are backordered(2-3 week delivery time from B&M stores) with only handful of retailers keeping a stock.

The 5090 probably for a long time because of its AI use and 32GB of vram

below that a couple months probably as long as there is no shortage etc.

that 32GB of VRAM would make it a target for "Quadro" and other WS users as well added into mix of "AI".

 

[wolf]

If in pure gaming performance, then that's a very interesting proposition.

It absolutely won't be as fast in 'traditional' rendering, that will be with multi frame gen, I can just about promise that.

 

[Guwapo77]

A 60 class card called a 70 class and priced accordingly.

We need to see the actual performance in numbers without upscalers/frame generation to actually determine if its good

It will be better than the 40 series and cost the same. I highly doubt this will be an Intel situation.

 

[Crackong]

Just look at the first two and it should be the actual difference of 5090 vs 4090

The rest of it is DLSS MFG 4X, so 1 real frame to 4 fake frames.

 

[AusWolf]

It absolutely won't be as fast in 'traditional' rendering, that will be with multi frame gen, I can just about promise that.

Then that's shit. The only time frame gen doesn't work is when it's needed.

If Nvidia only shows frame gen performance in this keynote, then I'll reserve all my opinion until proper reviews are out.

 

[igormp]

Nice to see them doing some marketing for WSL2, means that they basically gave up on trying to do compute natively in windows lol

 

[AusWolf]

Just look at the first two and it should be the actual difference of 5090 vs 4090

The rest of it is DLSS MFG 4X, so 1 real frame to 4 fake frames.

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Oh no, another fake gimmick just to make the new stuff look better than it is. Way to go, Nvidia, I thought it couldn't get worse after the AMD keynote. I was wrong.

What's coming with the 60x series? FG 8x? What a load of crap!

 

[Cheeseball]

$2000 for the 5090

But what's the retail price?

At least here in the US, it would still be that price. You just gotta be fast when checking out. I'm not sure about our European and Asian enthusiasts though.

When I had a RTX 4090 before in 2022, I got it at Best Buy (US) for...

So yes, it is possible to get them MSRP, but you would need to be fast, which should not be the case, but hey blame the corporations for playing the capitalism game.

 

[ShrimpBrime]

5090 is a Fkn monster.

 

[Dr. Dro]

If you can get he first batch, the price should be MSRP. After that, good damn luck for like 6 months to 12 months...

No rush. I paid off all my credit card debt this morning so it's only a matter of waiting for the coffers to replenish a little, 6 months sounds good

 

[oxrufiioxo]

5090 is a Fkn monster.

it can now do 3 added frames instead of 1.... I don't really like calling it fake because the whole thing is fake.... Show some real performance Nvidia it's not like the top 3 cards your competition will even come close....

 

[Onasi]

Honestly, I am interested in how MFG performs and looks. If they have managed to improve SNR at lower-ish framerates it will be interesting. I am not one to screech about “fake frames” and with the way modern games are going, adding more temporal blur for higher perceived smoothness is really not that bad at this point.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

No rush. I paid off all my credit card debt this morning so it's only a matter of waiting for the coffers to replenish a little, 6 months sounds good

What will 2k translate to you over there 2500-3000$ usd

Honestly, I am interested in how MFG performs and looks. If they have managed to improve SNR at lower-ish framerates it will be interesting. I am not one to screech about “fake frames” and with the way modern games are going, adding more temporal blur for higher perceived smoothness is really not that bad at this point.

I agree if it's good to the point you can't tell it's on and it just looks like more frames without a huge latency hit vs native fps like 120fps rendered vs 240fps interpolated for example

 

[hsew]

Given that 4070 was only about 8,12, and 20% slower than 3090, I believe 5070 could be within the same level of performance compared to 4090 outside of 4K

Also, sheeeesh, those prices are incredibly tempting! Better than any of us predicted that’s for sure. Apart from x90 (which is 33% increased compared to last gen), every announced GPU so is launching cheaper than its their series counterpart.

I really hope they get the power connector under control this time. And if the super SKUs wind up using 3GB modules, it’ll explain the current gap between 5080 and 5090.

 

[Guwapo77]

No rush. I paid off all my credit card debt this morning so it's only a matter of waiting for the coffers to replenish a little, 6 months sounds good

Its a rush for me... I need it for my rebuild. I got everything but the GPU and CPU. Just ordered my Corsair HX1500i a couple days ago. 5090 and 9950X3D and I'm done for the next decade.

 

[AusWolf]

Honestly, I am interested in how MFG performs and looks. If they have managed to improve SNR at lower-ish framerates it will be interesting. I am not one to screech about “fake frames” and with the way modern games are going, adding more temporal blur for higher perceived smoothness is really not that bad at this point.

I don't think it can be improved. You can't make 60 frames out of 20 without adding considerable input lag and other oddities. There just isn't enough raw information to work with. FG is a lie.

 

[Guwapo77]

At least here in the US, it would still be that price. You just gotta be fast when checking out. I'm not sure about our European and Asian enthusiasts though.

When I had a RTX 4090 before in 2022, I got it at Best Buy (US) for...

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So yes, it is possible to get them MSRP, but you would need to be fast, which should not be the case, but hey blame the corporations for playing the capitalism game.

I saw him out of NY, I thought he was trolling. Yeah the price is what it is in 'murica... Oversea, I feel sorry for ya'll as its gonna be expensive as all hell.

 

[Dr. Dro]

What will 2k translate to you over there 2500-3000$ usd

Around 3.3k I think.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

Around 3.3k I think.

Damn..... Hopefully you get a good turn around on your 4080s

 

[ShrimpBrime]

it can now do 3 added frames instead of 1.... I don't really like calling it fake because the whole thing is fake.... Show some real performance Nvidia it's not like the top 3 cards your competition will even come close....

What is added frames? You mean pre-render? What's wrong with that. 3 is where it should be at imo.

 

[Zazigalka]

Tbh, the regular performance on 5080/5070 will look quite unimpressive I suspect. I wanted to upgrade to a 4080S tier, and it looks like 5070Ti will do, but that's about it. Well, at least it's about 250 saved comparing the two.

 

[oxrufiioxo]

What is added frames? You mean pre-render? What's wrong with that. 3 is where it should be at imo.

They are taking 1 frame at 1080p and generating 3 more then upscaling it to 4k all at the same time to get their performance claims..... Something I and everyone else needs to see locally to know how good or bad that is.... Current frame generation only does 1 frame and has a ton of downsides being downright unusable in Esports games.

 

[igormp]

Around 3.3k I think.

That seems about right. Are you ready to do a pre-order at kabum and wait for 2 months to get yours?

 

[Onasi]

@AusWolf
20 to 60 is a scenario I don’t think anyone realistically expects. It’s whatever. Turning 40-50 into 100+ effectively is fine for the console style games with a pad though. And smoothing out native 120 to pad out high refresh screens for their owners is not too bad either. It’s a tool, it has its uses.

 

[AusWolf]

What is added frames? You mean pre-render? What's wrong with that. 3 is where it should be at imo.

It's not pre-render. It is an extra frame inserted between the current one and the next, extrapolated by AI using data from the previous frame and motion vectors to try to judge what that extra frame should be like. It's a big fat lie.