NVIDIA 2025 International CES Keynote: Liveblog

ShrimpBrime · 2025-01-07T03:47:01+0000

oxrufiioxo said:
They are taking 1 frame at 1080p and generating 3 more then upscaling it to 4k all at the same time to get their performance claims..... Something I and everyone else needs to see locally to know how good or bad that is.... Current frame generation only does 1 frame and has a ton of downsides being downright unusable in Esports games.

Oh that's basically cheating it. Still was expecting 2500+US dollars for that either way.

AusWolf · 2025-01-07T03:47:30+0000

Onasi said:
@AusWolf
20 to 60 is a scenario I don’t think anyone realistically expects. It’s whatever. Turning 40-50 into 100+ effectively is fine for the console style games with a pad though. And smoothing out native 120 to pad out high refresh screens for their owners is not too bad either. It’s a tool, it has its uses.

The problem is that you can't turn 20 into anything because there isn't enough raw data. And I'm totally fine with 40-50. So it's the most pointless feature in history.

wolf · 2025-01-07T03:48:37+0000

Website is up with some charts that give a better indication, looks like those two titles are the most 'apples to apples' comparisons they're offering right now, not skewed by Muti FG.

MxPhenom 216 · 2025-01-07T03:48:58+0000

5080 come to daddy!

Also this AI shit creeps me out and thats coming from someone who works for a company where we make AI training ASICs lol

Wasteland · 2025-01-07T03:49:20+0000

wolf said:
It absolutely won't be as fast in 'traditional' rendering, that will be with multi frame gen, I can just about promise that.

Well, you see, when you record gameplay footage on your 4090, then play it back on your 5070, you get the same result.

damric · 2025-01-07T03:49:25+0000

RTX 5070 looking good at $550. Better price than last two gens, but is it a better buy? If it isn't bullshit, then I'd really consider this or the Ti model as an upgrade for one of my RX 6900XTs.

AusWolf · 2025-01-07T03:49:33+0000

wolf said:
Website is up with some charts that give a better indication, looks like those two titles are the most 'apples to apples' comparisons they're offering right now, not skewed by Muti FG.

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It's in the small print: FG on for 40 series, MFG on for 50 series. It's all a lie.

swirl09 · 2025-01-07T03:49:49+0000

ShrimpBrime said:
5090 is a Fkn monster.

Are we looking at different charts? The games shown that dont support DLSS4 have pretty lackluster gains IMO. For the price increase, larger die, and extra power are you really excited about 30-40%? Im not.

Looking forward to proper reviews.

AusWolf · 2025-01-07T03:50:07+0000

damric said:
RTX 5070 looking good at $550. Better price than last two gens, but is it a better buy? If it isn't bullshit, then I'd really consider this or the Ti model as an upgrade for one of my RX 6900XTs.

That's probably with frame gen 4x on. Wait for reviews.

oxrufiioxo · 2025-01-07T03:50:43+0000

wolf said:
Website is up with some charts that give a better indication, looks like those two titles are the most 'apples to apples' comparisons they're offering right now, not skewed by Muti FG.

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Yeah those are the only somewhat apples to apples although FP8 vs FP4 who knows what that does to quality yet... Like I said everyone needs to see it locally first.

Onasi · 2025-01-07T03:50:47+0000

@AusWolf
*for you. I just outlined several usecases some other people might be interested in. Again - it’s a tool. Not everyone is a “no upscaling, no FG, Final Destination only” guy.

oxrufiioxo · 2025-01-07T03:51:40+0000

AusWolf said:
That's probably with frame gen 4x on. Wait for reviews.

If it's just a 4070 super for 550 that would suck outside of frame gen x3 my new name for it lmao... At least till we get a better idea of what it actually feels and how it compares in motion.

Dr. Dro · 2025-01-07T03:52:13+0000

igormp said:
That seems about right. Are you ready to do a pre-order at kabum and wait for 2 months to get yours?

When I ordered the 3090 with them, it took over three months and that's because I actually filed a complaint with Reclame Aqui and Procon. Hahaha. They shipped it the exact day after. Unbelievable.

thesmokingman · 2025-01-07T03:52:16+0000

igormp said:
Did you folks like his jacket?
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I see Jensen really taking this jacket thing and embracing it. :rockout:

damric · 2025-01-07T03:52:25+0000

AusWolf said:
That's probably with frame gen 4x on. Wait for reviews.

Absolutely. My ass ain't falling for no tricks.

AusWolf · 2025-01-07T03:52:43+0000

Onasi said:
@AusWolf
*for you. I just outlined several usecases some other people might be interested in. Again - it’s a tool. Not everyone is a “no upscaling, no FG, Final Destination only” guy.

The only use case I can imagine is if your game stutters. But then, it's useless. I'm not interested in making 200 FPS out of 100, thank you, and I can't imagine why anyone is. Especially with the same input lag.

ShrimpBrime · 2025-01-07T03:52:50+0000

swirl09 said:
Are we looking at different charts? The games shown that dont support DLSS4 have pretty lackluster gains IMO. For the price increase, larger die, and extra power are you really excited about 30-40%? Im not.

Looking forward to proper reviews.

Listen, the new jacket throws me off a bit. It's still a beast card, will be fastest consumer gaming GPU with MSRP of 2k. That's not horrible. The 5080 price, I was hoping for less than 1k$ however.

igormp · 2025-01-07T03:54:49+0000

Dr. Dro said:
When I ordered the 3090 with them, it took over three months and that's because I actually filed a complaint with Reclame Aqui and Procon. Hahaha. They shipped it the exact day after. Unbelievable.

I remember folks buying the ryzen 7000 series and RTX 4000 during pre-order getting their product AFTER folks that waited to buy those after they were ready to order lol

Solaris17 · 2025-01-07T03:55:07+0000

AusWolf said:
I'm not interested in

We know bro, you've been shitting up the thread for pages.

AusWolf · 2025-01-07T03:56:29+0000

Solaris17 said:
We know bro, you've been shitting up the thread for pages.

I think people have a right to know that the data shown in the keynote is not an apples-to-apples comparison between the 40 series and 50 series. We're being misled (unless one reads the small print).

3x0 · 2025-01-07T03:57:03+0000

So 5090 is barely 30% faster than 4090 in non Frame Generation situations. Expected more of a jump, 4090 vs 3090Ti was ~40% uplift.

igormp · 2025-01-07T03:57:38+0000

AusWolf said:
I think people have a right to know that the data shown in the keynote is not an apples-to-apples comparison between the 40 series and 50 series. We're being misled (unless one reads the small print).

It is pretty clear in their website, which clearly states when DLSS is being used:

NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50 Series Graphics Cards

Powered by NVIDIA Blackwell.

www.nvidia.com

Visible Noise · 2025-01-07T03:58:36+0000

Now we know why AMD bailed on RDNA 4 this afternoon. They knew they would have been a laughing stock after this.

AMD just got KO’d.

Dr. Dro · 2025-01-07T03:58:58+0000

igormp said:
I remember folks buying the ryzen 7000 series and RTX 4000 during pre-order getting their product AFTER folks that waited to buy those after they were ready to order lol

Yeah it happened to me too with the 3090. That's why I won't rush. I'll take some time, enjoy my 4080 for a while more, then sell it once the whole hype died down a little and then see what I'll do from there depending on market conditions.

gffermari · 2025-01-07T04:00:38+0000

So with DLSS3, the 5080 is 1.2x the 4080
at the plague tale requiem??

Comparing gpus with different settings, even DLSS versions, is kinda pointless, I think.
I really want to see how you can get 4-5x the frames starting at 20fps…
The DLSS3 FG is ok enough if you have 60+fps natively. Below that it’s unusable.

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NVIDIA 2025 International CES Keynote: Liveblog

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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50 Series Graphics Cards

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