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NVIDIA Points Intel Raptor Lake CPU Users to Get Help from Intel Amid System Instability Issues

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Simply not true though.
The dated and inefficient nature of their architecture absolutely forced Intel to push their processors to the extreme in order to match and in some scenarios exceed the competition.

Their top end CPUs thermal throttle right out of the box. They run over 100C under full load.

The frames per watt of their top end CPUs is not even HALF that of LAST generation AMD. Let alone Zen 4.

Their power consumption is higher than the equivalent AMD CPUs in productivity tasks, and the gap gets much bigger when it comes to gaming.

What about these facts says anything but "we had to match AMD with what we have right now"?
 
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The dated and inefficient nature of their architecture absolutely forced Intel to push their processors to the extreme in order to match and in some scenarios exceed the competition.

Certainly not the first time. See Pentium 4 XEs for example.
 
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The dated and inefficient nature of their architecture absolutely forced Intel to push their processors to the extreme in order to match and in some scenarios exceed the competition.

Their top end CPUs thermal throttle right out of the box. They run over 100C under full load.

The frames per watt of their top end CPUs is not even HALF that of LAST generation AMD. Let alone Zen 4.

Their power consumption is higher than the equivalent AMD CPUs in productivity tasks, and the gap gets much bigger when it comes to gaming.

What about these facts says anything but "we had to match AMD with what we have right now"?
It's hilarious when 14900KS vs 7800X3D is compared in games. Less FPS for more than double the power. It's like they're two generations apart.

Built a custom 13900K/4090 loop for a mate with two 360 rads for gaming, because apparently he used some emulators which supposedly run better on intel. He's since switched to the 7800X3D after seeing the benches and it resulted in his games being faster because apparently the emulator thing is a thing of the past as the X3D chips rip it, but also because the GPU has more headroom with a few degrees lower water temps.

Even on non-extreme custom loops, the lower power draw is a big plus and many don't really get it.
 
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Asus aggressively overvolts and puts 4096W on turbo runtime. That's not unique to Intel though, they do that to AMD as well. Most of the stability and heat issues of the 13th and 14th gen were due to default motherboard settings.

Once you dial in the settings the chips run great.
A BIOS update for Intel motherboards has been released that "...introduces the Intel Baseline Profile option, allowing users to revert to Intel factory default settings for basic functionality, lower power limits, and improving stability in certain games".
 
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A BIOS update for Intel motherboards has been released that "...introduces the Intel Baseline Profile option, allowing users to revert to Intel factory default settings for basic functionality, lower power limits, and improving stability in certain games".

And now time to redo all reviews for those CPUs. ;)

Many outlets will probably do a comparison, actually. There's kind of a content drought right now, with nothing new coming out.
 

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And now time to redo all reviews for those CPUs. ;)

Many outlets will probably do a comparison, actually. There's kind of a content drought right now, with nothing new coming out.
TPU already tests at stock, manual voltage/OC, and with power limits removed.

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These are Intel stock settings, not motherboard "stock" by the way.
 
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It's hilarious when 14900KS vs 7800X3D is compared in games. Less FPS for more than double the power. It's like they're two generations apart.

They basically are 2 generations apart -- it's a tweaked alder lake (2021) core on a fatter node with less cache.

It shouldn't really be able to be on the same chart, but they put 1.5V through it and viola.
 
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