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PC Radiator Cooling Capacity

Makes no difference.

If you want something like this you go dual loops, not split loops.
Interesting I was thinking in a split loop as described you could be introducing an issue with heat dissipation not being balanced. For example if you have two rads that could dissipate 220 watts each for 440w total. If one component needed 100w to dissipate and the other needed 300w one rad would be overloaded and the unreleased heat would blend back into the loop for another round vs. in series the full 400w would have a chance to dissipate before going another round.
 
There's an actual link to the vid I made showing it:
Evaporative Cooling Tower - YouTube
It was something I made because I was bored.
The final iteration was different but worked great once I changed a few things like the cooling fan for instance - Popped in a single 240CFM Delta 120mm and it was awesome!
loud but awesome.

Makes no difference.

If you want something like this you go dual loops, not split loops.

Can actually lead to the more flow restricted segment not getting enough cooling in split.
That's possible if your pump can't move enough coolant by volume, has to have it in a sufficent amount to work properly but as long as you have enough flow it will work.
I'd done dual loops, split loops and other things too such as a bleeder line for my RAM sticks regulated by a ball valve. I adjust the flow to my sticks by using the valve to do this with, opened more for more flow and opened less for less flow.
I simply connect these in series too and have a return line to the res from them.

Makes no difference.

If you want something like this you go dual loops, not split loops.

Can actually lead to the more flow restricted segment not getting enough cooling in split.
Having a set of rad in series can possibly (I stress possibly here) lead to less efficient cooling because in that case one rad will be warmer than the other all the time BUT, as long as the total amount of cooling you get is enough it's not a problem since that's something that cools down the water/coolant in stages.

The way my current benching setup is done I even have a separate PSU just for the cooling system itself so I can pre-cool things before I ever turn on the system itself and it's also handy for leak testing before power is even applied to the system.
Unplug the system PSU, run the coolant system PSU and that way you can check for leaks with no risk of shorting things out because of a leak.
Fix the leak, confirm it's fixed and just go from there.
 
Here is anotehr solid example by Supermicro, Dual CPU, and Quad GPU, with a single large radator, and dual 120 x 38 ran and single 335x 160 radiator. And the sound is no louder an applience.


This is were I am convfiened a single strong radator, wil do extreamly well.


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What exactly are you going to be running CPU and GPU wise HBSound? I'm on my phone and cant see your gear right now.

The better rad, of those you've mentioned, is the HWL gtx but the EK is also solid just not as good. Alphacool rads are good but not great. Their new iteration of rads hardly made a blip in regards to improving temps compared to the originals.

Don't get too sidetracked by block decisions. As long as you go with a solid manufacturer and a block that's been released in the last couple of years the difference is generally a couple of degrees at best.
 
Im a bit sceptical. you intend to dump 1.6kW into the case and hope it doesn't accumulate. Also higher water temperature will ware down the pump. isn't i better to place the rad on top and guaratee the heat escapes immediately. i'd rather do a Cpu-Rad-Gpu-Rad-Pump-Rad with triple 280mm rads or even triple slim 140 than push pulls or anything like that. even better two rads with a fan between to hold them together.
 
What exactly are you going to be running CPU and GPU wise HBSound? I'm on my phone and cant see your gear right now.

The better rad, of those you've mentioned, is the HWL gtx but the EK is also solid just not as good. Alphacool rads are good but not great. Their new iteration of rads hardly made a blip in regards to improving temps compared to the originals.

Don't get too sidetracked by block decisions. As long as you go with a solid manufacturer and a block that's been released in the last couple of years the difference is generally a couple of degrees at best.
Thank you so much!

Right now I am doing my homework on the HWL items.

For cooling efforts, I have the AMD Threaripper Pro, PNY A6 GPU. Right now am planning as if I max out my system. So that as I expand in GPU or etc. I do not desire to touch the water cooling. I want to just insert whatever it is into my system and keep rolling. I prefer not to always have to change something here and there.

Im a bit sceptical. you intend to dump 1.6kW into the case and hope it doesn't accumulate. Also higher water temperature will ware down the pump. isn't i better to place the rad on top and guaratee the heat escapes immediately. i'd rather do a Cpu-Rad-Gpu-Rad-Pump-Rad with triple 280mm rads or even triple slim 140 than push pulls or anything like that. even better two rads with a fan between to hold them together.

The top of the case does not offer that kind of space for a large radiator and etc. If so, I am with you. Mount that joker to the top of the case and pull it all out. But in most cases, the space between the top of the case and the motherboard is extremely tight. Maybe 50-70mm worth of space. Unless the case is super high.
 
Thank you so much!

Right now I am doing my homework on the HWL items.

For cooling efforts, I have the AMD Threaripper Pro, PNY A6 GPU. Right now am planning as if I max out my system. So that as I expand in GPU or etc. I do not desire to touch the water cooling. I want to just insert whatever it is into my system and keep rolling. I prefer not to always have to change something here and there.



The top of the case does not offer that kind of space for a large radiator and etc. If so, I am with you. Mount that joker to the top of the case and pull it all out. But in most cases, the space between the top of the case and the motherboard is extremely tight. Maybe 50-70mm worth of space. Unless the case is super high.
Perhaps just consider taking the rads external and use some quick disconnects so you can move it when needed.
 
Perhaps just consider taking the rads external and use some quick disconnects so you can move it when needed.
I did consider an external cooling system. But space for me is extremely limited. I mean extremely. Right now I have an classic old school tanker desk. Extreamly nice desk. I did consider having the single large drawer converted to a water cooler system for a PC to sit on the desk. But I will not have this desk that much longer. It would be an extreamly nice project. Take the motherboard, and processor and place into the smallest case I could find that will do at least a small rad on top just for some cooling. Place some quick disconnects on the back, and attach to the sustem. And IF I had to move the computer for some reaosn, there is atlest enough cooling to support a single CPU/CPU. It is still a nice thought to have! But space is limited.

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I did consider an external cooling system. But space for me is extremely limited. I mean extremely. Right now I have an classic old school tanker desk. Extreamly nice desk. I did consider having the single large drawer converted to a water cooler system for a PC to sit on the desk. But I will not have this desk that much longer. It would be an extreamly nice project. Take the motherboard, and processor and place into the smallest case I could find that will do at least a small rad on top just for some cooling. Place some quick disconnects on the back, and attach to the sustem. And IF I had to move the computer for some reaosn, there is atlest enough cooling to support a single CPU/CPU. It is still a nice thought to have! But space is limited.

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Can you go vertical? Hang your rads off the ceiling or the wall?
 
Thank you so much!

Right now I am doing my homework on the HWL items.

For cooling efforts, I have the AMD Threaripper Pro, PNY A6 GPU. Right now am planning as if I max out my system. So that as I expand in GPU or etc. I do not desire to touch the water cooling. I want to just insert whatever it is into my system and keep rolling. I prefer not to always have to change something here and there.



The top of the case does not offer that kind of space for a large radiator and etc. If so, I am with you. Mount that joker to the top of the case and pull it all out. But in most cases, the space between the top of the case and the motherboard is extremely tight. Maybe 50-70mm worth of space. Unless the case is super high.
Ok, so your looking at +/-600w to dissipate during heavy workloads with the 420. That's going to be a tough situation. Ideally, I would suggest 2x360 or 420+240 rads for that kind of rig. Particularly if your looking for consistent 8-1000rpm fan speeds. That's going to be the the hardest part of the equation. Trying to keep those two monsters cool (while underload) AND quiet. Once you start running heavy duty apps for long durations your going to see much higher fan speeds (usually very loud)with a single 420. If your case will accommodate another rad I would run two of the best rads you can fit in there. Otherwise the quiet part of your project isn't going to be feasible I'm afraid.

Ignore the rad companies max wattage numbers. Those numbers are based on having the fans running full bore. And they are market speak to boot, so not reliable. For your use case, you obviously need more surface area to dissipate the heat quickly and quietly.
 
I would add an external radiator at the marked space.

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Ignore the rad companies max wattage numbers. Those numbers are based on having the fans running full bore. And they are market speak to boot, so not reliable. For your use case, you obviously need more surface area to dissipate the heat quickly and quietly.

Thank you so much! This makes a lot of sense. In the quest of planning out this system. I will definitely do this for sure.
Thank you so much! Your time is appreciated!

Can you go vertical? Hang your rads off the ceiling or the wall?
In the space I am in, I cant hand anything off the ceilings and walls.
 
What you need is one of those 44 x 42 x 5 cm. And ditch the top drawer. You need more space for the thing to breathe. it's not like a fridge that is built to operate in a very constrained space.
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What you need is one of those 44 x 42 x 5 cm. And ditch the top drawer. You need more space for the thing to breathe. it's not like a fridge that is built to operate in a very constrained space.
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I have looked these over far and wide. I promise you to have. My space is small and if I could place one of these verticals in my office next to my desk with the proper fans. It would be nice, but I can't. And I am moving into a smaller space. The only thing that one could consider, is my next home. Find a dedicated server space, and closet for a few items. And place something like this in there and pipe over the coolant to the computer on quick disconnects. That would allow me to get the maximum cooling, and remove the noise and heat from my space.
 
To give an impression including fans...

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To give an impression including fans...

I love the whole idea of this, I really do!

Just how loud is it? In my head, If I did something like this. I would do a push and pull so that I can also help ramp down the fans just a little too. And make sure I get every piece cooling out of the radiator.
 
HAF XB with 1080 rad for the lid ftw.
 
I love the whole idea of this, I really do!

Just how loud is it? ...
It is quite quiet. The fans are spinning low (500rpm). Why should they go faster? At all it is really relaxed.
 
In your situation externally mounting a mora is a great idea. You no longer have to worry about the front rads heat dump or secondary sources heating up the case internals (like the mb vrms or any add on cards you may be installing). You can then focus entirely on creating the best airflow through your case to keep the mb, SSDs, HDDs and memory cool. Can you mount one on the side or back of your desk? For your rig a mora really would be ideal.
 
The Alphacool NexXxoS XT45 Full Copper 420mm radiator. I am not sure if this will work or have enough capacity.
^^ This will be more than plenty. Pair it with a MINIMUM 1.8 mm-H2O static pressure fans and you will be good to go.
 
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