5080 tie 4090 in performance and will be priced at around $1300/1400, with a maximum +50% performance gain from the 9070xt.
That's about as doubtful as 9070XT matching 4080S performance (RT or not).
5080 will be a 256bit 84SM card against a 384bit 128SM card and will have less of everything - including memory bandwidth (despite using the fastest initial G7).
Anyone who thinks 5080 will tie 4090 performance is delusional. It will be +10-15% vs 4080S and that's about it. The gap between 4080S and 4090 is 24%.
Not to mention why would Nvidia give away 4090 performance for cheaper when there's not competition to 4090 from others?
Why would AMD price its card less than $650/700?
Because then there would be zero incentive to buy it. I can buy 7900XT today for 700 with 4GB more VRAM and likely more performance (at least in raster) since i doubt 9070XT will even tie 7900XT.
To me personally, 7900 XT performance is fine, so if I get that, with MUCH better idle / video playback efficiency, and MAYBE a tad more RT for 550, it'll be a winner.
Same here. I would be coming from 2080Ti so even 7900 GRE perf (like leaks have suggested) would be a 51% performance bump. 79% in case of 7900XT.
Plus 5GB extra VRAM, lower power consumption, AV1 support, PCIe 5.0 interface (tho im on a 4.0 system and it wont matter anyway) and modern ports with DP 2.1 (hopefully UHBR20 this time instead of 13.5). Not to mention native ReBAR support. Something Nvidia refused to add to their 20 series cards despite AMD doing it for their 5000 series cards retroactively. And yet all the comments talk about great Nvidia driver support. And only now has Nvidia managed to release a modern, unified GUI with no login requirement.
Too late.
As Nvidia user im not feeling it. They refused to give me ReBAR that would have given me extra perf, they refused to give me DLSS FG that AMD proved with FSR 3.0 can work on 20 series very well (especially in combination with Reflex). Nvidia's own native implementation would be even better.
Plus they implemented a bad connector in their cards that i refuse to trust (well maybe, after 10x revisions).
The prices are just a final insult on top of everything else.
That is why im going AMD for my next card.
If RX 9070 XT can match at least RX 7900 XTX than maybe yes otherwise who will buy it ? Smaller cheaper die also GDDR6 it only makes sense. nvidia already owns more than 90% of gpu market share.
That will never happen. 256bit 64CU card vs 384bit 96CU. Not to mention the gulf in memory bandwidth as 9070XT wont be using G7 to help it bridge the gap like 5080 is doing with 4090.
People please. Stop with these wishful comparisons. You're just setting yourselves up for disappointment.
TPU's GPU database is available on this very site. Look at the specs and make realistic comparisons.
Yes of course clock speeds will increase a little, TDP will rise and likely there are SM/CU IPC improvements but realistically within the same 4nm/5nm process dont expect miracles. And if im wrong i will gladly eat my words. But i doubt im wrong.