Rumour: Zen to have 8-core variants with dedicated overclocking features for enthusiasts

[Recon-UK]

Again if u compare intel vs amd atm, but if u compare intel vs new intel, same clockspeed, there is barely no gain!

Intel have had no competition since Phenom II, even Phenom II was behind but at least it could fight with price, Bulldozer went for i7 prices whilst being behind the Thuban Phenom II's.

As much as i am more AMD sided, you can't deny what actually went on.

Sandy to Skylake now is quite a big jump, however Sandy still clocks much higher than any other intel CPU arch on average.

 

[Mr.Scott]

I see haters hating even before it's released.
Where are the open minded people?

 

[CAPSLOCKSTUCK]

Long live 1366

 

[Recon-UK]

I see haters hating even before it's released.
Where are the open minded people?

I have been told off for posting "fud" to do with ZEN, and no it was all Pro AMD.

 

[FYFI13]

None of what you just said made any damn sense, a stock i7 950 rapes an overclocked FX 8350 in BF1 for instance... lol

Another example would be Arma 3, where i7 920 @2.66GHz beats every single AMD CPU. Yes, it's a 8 year old CPU. Not even high end.

 

[Mr.Scott]

I have been told off for posting "fud" to do with ZEN, and no it was all Pro AMD.

I wasn't singling any one person out man.

 

[jormungand]

i can prove the fact that my FX 8350 holds the shit of my GTX 1070 in BF1 cuz i see my frames drop to 30 or lower sometimes. By now dont now if its really my cpu or my OS or whatever but a friend of mine using
a i5 6500 + gtx1060 gets nice smooth gameplay at high settings and thats where I am.

 

[Recon-UK]

i can prove the fact that my FX 8350 holds the shit of my GTX 1070 in BF1 cuz i see my frames drop to 30 or lower sometimes. By now dont now if its really my cpu or my OS or whatever but a friend of mine using
a i5 6500 + gtx1060 gets nice smooth gameplay at high settings and thats where I am.

It's ok, before i went cheap on x58 i was on Phenom II, same story but with BF4... x58 instantly 2.5x increased my FPS into the high 80's, i did have a video of it with my 670... crazy performance increase.

 

[Mr.Scott]

i can prove the fact that my FX 8350 holds the shit of my GTX 1070 in BF1 cuz i see my frames drop to 30 or lower sometimes. By now dont now if its really my cpu or my OS or whatever.

Read this again, and tell me if it makes any sense at all.
I'll highlight the key words for you.

 

[jormungand]

if it is for the grammar ....... Im cuban. if it is for the core message . FX +1070 low fps .... i5 + gtx 1060 better fps. now you can understand my point???

 

[Mr.Scott]

It's not the grammar.

 

[64K]

if it is for the grammar ....... Im cuban. if it is for the core message . FX +1070 low fps .... i5 + gtx 1060 better fps. now you can understand my point???

Time for an upgrade then. Either Zen or Kaby lake when they come out and get benched.

 

[jormungand]

Mr Scott
im denying myself cuz i dont understand the crap im watching sometimes when my fx doesnt hit the 100% usage.

64K
thats why im holding myself to grab a nice deal from black november at newegg. Zen or Intel new cpus have me leashed from my itch of new tech

 

[Mr.Scott]

Mr Scott
im denying myself cuz i dont understand the crap im watching sometimes when my fx doesnt hit the 100% usage.

If it's not hitting 100% usage, it's not the CPU holding you back.

 

[Recon-UK]

If it's not hitting 100% usage, it's not the CPU holding you back.

This is incredibly wrong.

 

[jormungand]

If it's not hitting 100% usage, it's not the CPU holding you back.

my gpu temps are showing 70-71 c max. game is installed in my ssd so i cant understand what im doing wrong......

 

[Mr.Scott]

This is incredibly wrong.

Elaborate then. I'm all ears.

 

[cdawall]

Elaborate then. I'm all ears.

Poor threading.

 

[Recon-UK]

Elaborate then. I'm all ears.

It's due to Windows and multi core processors in general, add on top the odd situation of the FX CPU where it has 1 1/2 CPU cores.... it's complex.

There are also other bottlenecks within the FX, very high latency in cache etc.

 

[Mr.Scott]

Poor threading.

Does that not become a poorly optimized driver issue then......at least partially.
Are most games not primarily optimized for Intel processors any more?

 

[Mr.Scott]

It's due to Windows and multi core processors in general, add on top the odd situation of the FX CPU where it has 1 1/2 CPU cores.... it's complex.

There are also other bottlenecks within the FX, very high latency in cache etc.

I know about all of that. That still only translates to maybe 5 FPS between the FX and an Intel processor in game.

 

[FYFI13]

Does that not become a poorly optimized driver issue then......at least partially.

No, it's CPU. Try Arma 2/3 with different CPUs and same graphics card and you will see. That's just one of many examples.

I know about all of that. That still only translates to maybe 5 FPS between the FX and an Intel processor in game.

A dual core, low-end Pentium beats all AMD CPUs.

 

[Mr.Scott]

No, it's CPU. Try Arma 2/3 with different CPUs and same graphics card and you will see. That's just one of many examples.

Again, are most games not primarily optimized for Intel processors any more?
AMD processors take the brunt most of the time for software that is totally Intel optimized, is the point I'm getting at.

 

[Recon-UK]

LOL those AMD Evolve titles? remember those?

Oh they happened to all run better on intel CPU's it's shocking i know

 

[FYFI13]

Again, are most games not primarily optimized for Intel processors any more?

Most? No, most games are just a console ports and consoles using AMD APUs.