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Sapphire Radeon RX 9070 XT Nitro+

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54.4 fps + 46% = 79.5 fps
The Nitro is an overclocked card. It isn't stock, and it isn't MSRP. At the $730 price and with the 65.5% combined performance uplift you cite, there's still only around a 13% value uplift.
I dont understand!

I was ASSURED by the AMD community that everyone would buy nvidia anyway, that nothing AMD did would ever work and they were doomed to sit on shelves.

how can they be out of stock?!?
Don't worry bro, it's just AMD doing a buyback on their cards. They're making sure you can only buy the $700+ models (which is a GOOD price BTW) so that they can make a profit and gain market share. :kookoo:
Those sad-sack "nobody will buy these because consumers will only buy Nvidia" posts are not looking too wise right now
Crazy how consumers can be compelled by a good value.
 

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This card is $780 on Microcenter on day 1. Rumors are pricing is going to be even higher after initial launch. Not sure where the $730 quoted price came from?
 

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It would be interesting to know how many cards are on the market, AMD should ship on average 9k-10k cards a day (assuming 2024 data) and they where stockpiling the for months it seems.

One single retailer in the UK had 4000+ cards and MC on the US seem to have them on the thousands also.
 

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This card is $780 on Microcenter on day 1. Rumors are pricing is going to be even higher after initial launch. Not sure where the $730 quoted price came from?
I think the $780 inflated Day 1 price is the actual price. I dont think itll hike up beyond that.
 
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The Nitro is an overclocked card. It isn't stock, and it isn't MSRP. At the $730 price and with the 65.5% combined performance uplift you cite, there's still only around a 13% value uplift.
It doesn't even matter because gpus at msrp does not exist at all. Lying with a straight face the same as nvidia. Like i said it's a mirage for idiots. Don't support it just vote with wallets.
 
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I dont understand!

I was ASSURED by the AMD community that everyone would buy nvidia anyway, that nothing AMD did would ever work and they were doomed to sit on shelves.

how can they be out of stock?!?
Nvidia messed up the 50 series launch, and they're mostly unavailable, so demand for basically any graphics card that isn't total shit is high. I don't think AMD was ready for this.
 
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It doesn't even matter because gpus at msrp does not exist at all. Lying with a straight face the same as nvidia. Like i said it's a mirage for idiots. Don't support it just vote with your wallets.
I think the success of this launch was very location-dependent. At least here in the US there were tons of 9070s and 9070XTs available at MSRP. At certain retailers there were literally hundreds per store. Lopsided stock allocation I think is the reason we’re seeing such a disparity in how people perceived this launch. Some regions had piles and piles of these cards available for sale while others had few if any available. I’m very grateful I live in a region that got good stock allocation but for many others there literally weren’t any available to buy it sounds like, least of all at MSRP.
 
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Plenty of stock here still.

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I'm sorry but i'm seeing plenty of $600 9070XT's in your favorite MC right now so your whole argument goes out the window. And no. 9070XT is priced like the 5070 and 7900GRE and smacks both pretty hard. Nvidia is the one doing the sidegrading

LOL, your own link has best buy with a 9070XT swift at $600. Stop arguing man, you're scoring own goals here.
Yeah... until they are sold out. Officially announced today...once that stock is gone we are all SOL. I hope you got your lunch money ready for today!

Plenty of stock here still.

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I guess we have a very different definition of plenty... Sadly, it looks like I'll be buying one of these overpriced cards, way better than the 6900XT. /criesontheinside
 
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So...why is everybody required to buy into this crap day one?

Yes, sellers are gouging day one. Do you remember the XTX and XT shenanigans? The ones where day one they matched the price AMD set, then the market responded to common sense and mere weeks later the cards were discounted? Retailers do. MSRP is manufacturer suggested retail price...and it's meant as a stable price that will still move cards in 4+ months when supply and demand normalize. Today, retailers can back-stab consumers. They are justifying it as the early adoption tax, and they have no problem pocketing the extra few hundred dollars that people are willing to pay to have anything...with the huge stock issues we've had for months with both AMD and Nvidia backing off production to free up width in the channel.

Stop. Breathe. Come back in three weeks once we're out of bank build cards, out of the first gen shipments, and finally see what actually sustainable pricing is like. It's kinda silly to hear reports about hundreds of cards available, given that stores reported 2 cards available with Blackwell. Take that as the first baby steps, meter expectations, and prepare to laugh if AMD pulls a 16 pin connector and makes the same absolute mess that Nvidia did. Otherwise, join me in loving that which may be our future...a competitive QHD offering, that one day may even extend into 4k. Lord knows that there will be time.
 
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I'll be damned...I saw Microcenter with 8 Red Devils and I was debating on buying it. Posted here and I went back and they were all sold out. I don't believe it. Basically every where is sold out.
 
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I'll be damned...I saw Microcenter with 8 Red Devils and I was debating on buying it. Posted here and I went back and they were all sold out. I don't believe it. Basically every where is sold out.
You cannot wait if you were planning on buying one of these you need to jump on it right away.

when you hesitate someone else is hitting the buy button.

seconds button GIF
 
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I have to go to Denver which is an hour away to get one at MSRP. Did confirm there are plenty there. I can't get up there till this weekend though so we will see.
Supposedly they had 700ish today.
 
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There's 1 Red Devil in stock at my MC, but it's $849, that's a lot. Still thinking about getting it
 
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There's 1 Red Devil in stock at my MC, but it's $849, that's a lot. Still thinking about getting it
Unless you desperately need a card, hold out brother!
 
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Unless you desperately need a card, hold out brother!
Definitely not desperate, I have a 4080 super. I really wanted the sapphire but those are all gone. More so curious and just wanting to switch back to AMD and pocket some cash from selling the 4080.
 

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AMD said, the 9070XT is 51% faster in 4k than the 6900XT. But here we clearly can see, it's only 28-30% better. Thx AMD...
 
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Is it just me that got annoyed about the RE4 write up?
It made the franchise big on PS? RE4 launched on Gamecube first. The franchise had got big on PS via RE, RE2 and RE3.
Yeah, it probably just is me.
 
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This is not advice. How not to buy in 2025. Full year of not spending money for goods that we not really needs. Excessive buying is like drug addiction, peoples need treatment for this disease.
 
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So...why is everybody required to buy into this crap day one?

Yes, sellers are gouging day one. Do you remember the XTX and XT shenanigans? The ones where day one they matched the price AMD set, then the market responded to common sense and mere weeks later the cards were discounted? Retailers do. MSRP is manufacturer suggested retail price...and it's meant as a stable price that will still move cards in 4+ months when supply and demand normalize. Today, retailers can back-stab consumers. They are justifying it as the early adoption tax, and they have no problem pocketing the extra few hundred dollars that people are willing to pay to have anything...with the huge stock issues we've had for months with both AMD and Nvidia backing off production to free up width in the channel.

Stop. Breathe. Come back in three weeks once we're out of bank build cards, out of the first gen shipments, and finally see what actually sustainable pricing is like. It's kinda silly to hear reports about hundreds of cards available, given that stores reported 2 cards available with Blackwell. Take that as the first baby steps, meter expectations, and prepare to laugh if AMD pulls a 16 pin connector and makes the same absolute mess that Nvidia did. Otherwise, join me in loving that which may be our future...a competitive QHD offering, that one day may even extend into 4k. Lord knows that there will be time.
Few things here:
1 you might have missed the Trump tariffs that jave just been applied to goods from China to the US. So, if you are in the US, the fresh crop of cards will be 20% more.
2 You might not have noticed but there is a drought of modern GPUs recently. That means demand will outstrip supply which will keep prices high. Even if AMD has good supply Nvidia don't, until that changes there will be overall supply issues.
3. There have been rumours that AMD might increase prices. They might not but with demand high there is no reason to for them to drop prices.
 
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