Stutter with jitter effect/ frame drops?

[Ferd]

So I actually managed to go to MC tonight and replaced it with another of the same model and you could guess it's still stuttering haven't messed with it except for installing gpu drivers. I'm really at a loss here lol sorry to necro this once more.

That’s ... disappointing, try this when you have sometime


1 - make sure windows is up to date .
2- download DDU uninstaller ,adrenaline 2020 edition 20.9.1 , and msi afterburner.
3- disconnect from all form of internet connection (wireless and wired) make sure you stay disconnected , ( there is a workaround this but first we need to see if this works )
4- (optional) if possible reseat the gpu to a different pcie slot
5- boot into safe mode , run DDU and clean amd drivers, reboot and install adrenaline software then reboot again .
Good luck

This is a fix for different issues caused by new drivers , most people report good results with that version so I hope it’ll make things better

 

[HD64G]

For the last few days I use my old 60Hz monitor waiting for the arrival of the replacement for my faulty 144Hz one. I can clearly see stuttering while playing Assetto Corsa with the FPS limited in-game to 115Hz while it didn't happen at all when playing on the 144Hz monitor. It has something to do with the monitor and nothing else. So, if the OP has been playing on higher FPS than the monitor's refresh rate, try the v-sync on.

 

[PaulieWalnutss]

That’s ... disappointing, try this when you have sometime


1 - make sure windows is up to date .
2- download DDU uninstaller ,adrenaline 2020 edition 20.9.1 , and msi afterburner.
3- disconnect from all form of internet connection (wireless and wired) make sure you stay disconnected , ( there is a workaround this but first we need to see if this works )
4- (optional) if possible reseat the gpu to a different pcie slot
5- boot into safe mode , run DDU and clean amd drivers, reboot and install adrenaline software then reboot again .
Good luck

This is a fix for different issues caused by new drivers , most people report good results with that version so I hope it’ll make things better

First I appreciate that you're still around this is honestly shocking to say the least (the whole problem), correct me if I'm wrong but 20.9.1 is incompatible with 6700xt? I don't see it pop up in previous drivers for my card.

For the last few days I use my old 60Hz monitor waiting for the arrival of the replacement for my faulty 144Hz one. I can clearly see stuttering while playing Assetto Corsa with the FPS limited in-game to 115Hz while it didn't happen at all when playing on the 144Hz monitor. It has something to do with the monitor and nothing else. So, if the OP has been playing on higher FPS than the monitor's refresh rate, try the v-sync on.

I actually have my FPS fairly in line with my monitor's refresh (avg in most recent games is about 80-120 depending on games ofc) highest fps I had was 290 in tf2 but I limited it to 144 via RTSS it stayed fairly consistent but still had hiccups, actually if I want to be honest TF2 is the one game that has ran pretty smooth throughout my testing, Mordhau, RDR2, Gears 5 for example I just can't get to run right even though Gears and RDR2 are optimized for AMD which is the baffling part to me. I actually do have a 1080p 75hz monitor I'll bring it out and see if that does anything.

 

[Ferd]

20.9.1 is incompatible with 6700xt

You’re right, it’s probably even older than the card itself , this fix works for RX cards ... my bad .
Honestly at this point there’s nothing I could think of , if I had this situation I would try the oldest driver see if it works, if not move to the next one , just make sure when you test a gpu driver that you’re connected to internet, download it before hand run ddu and install and test it , windows sometimes updates drivers using hardware ids and that can cause many problems . Try updating the chipset drivers aswell , use the ones provided by manufacturer, not the ones from windows update or those driver updating software

 

[PaulieWalnutss]

You’re right, it’s probably even older than the card itself , this fix works for RX cards ... my bad .
Honestly at this point there’s nothing I could think of , if I had this situation I would try the oldest driver see if it works, if not move to the next one , just make sure when you test a gpu driver that you’re connected to internet, download it before hand run ddu and install and test it , windows sometimes updates drivers using hardware ids and that can cause many problems . Try updating the chipset drivers aswell , use the ones provided by manufacturer, not the ones from windows update or those driver updating software

You're perfectly fine dw I just didn't know if I could use a driver from a previous card (still new to techinical aspects lol) Yeah I'm at a loss as well, the only absolute thing I can think of is maybe the electrical inside my house I've had problems in the past in different rooms but never had problems in my own room but maybe time's changed I'm going to give an electrician a call really soon just to ex that out.

 

[Chrispy_]

Don't rule out any external factors.

This isn't quite like your case but a machine I built for a friend years ago was just plain unstable. I talked them through all sorts of stuff including ruling out the peripherals by swapping them for others. In the end I had them bring the PC to me where I couldn't repeat the crash but swapped out the board/CPU/RAM for similar fresh kit I had lying around anyway. Primed/Furmarked it overnight and they took it away knowing it was stable.

At their home it *still* kept crashing. I asked them to plug it in somewhere else in the house, it was 100% fine and has been ever since. I'm no electrician but I'm guessing there was something wrong with the wall sockets in the original room.

• You've swapped all of the hardware from MC - so everything in the PC case can be ruled out.
• You've already clean-installed Windows with minimal drivers - so both the OS and drivers can be ruled out.
• On the old machine your friend already tried the latest firmware update - so BIOS issues can be ruled out.

What does that leave?

• Keyboard
• Mouse
• Audio peripherals
• Display
• Network
• User (game config files, habits, n-key rollover with your bindings etc)
• External power delivery

It's going to be a grind I'm afraid, but the only way to completely track it down is going to be to isolate one factor at a time and test. Make a methodical list like the one above (it's only an example, I don't know exactly what peripherals you're using or what your PC environment is like) and work through the list one-by-one until you rule out the problem.

edit: LOL, you post about house wiring issues 90 seconds before I post this! I'm not saying it's definitely that, but it wouldn't be the craziest answer....

 

[PaulieWalnutss]

Don't rule out any external factors.

This isn't quite like your case but a machine I built for a friend years ago was just plain unstable. I talked them through all sorts of stuff including ruling out the peripherals by swapping them for others. In the end I had them bring the PC to me where I couldn't repeat the crash but swapped out the board/CPU/RAM for similar fresh kit I had lying around anyway. Primed/Furmarked it overnight and they took it away knowing it was stable.

At their home it *still* kept crashing. I asked them to plug it in somewhere else in the house, it was 100% fine and has been ever since. I'm no electrician but I'm guessing there was something wrong with the wall sockets in the original room.

• You've swapped all of the hardware from MC - so everything in the PC case can be ruled out.
• You've already clean-installed Windows with minimal drivers - so both the OS and drivers can be ruled out.
• On the old machine your friend already tried the latest firmware update - so BIOS issues can be ruled out.

What does that leave?

• Keyboard
• Mouse
• Audio peripherals
• Display
• Network
• User (game config files, habits, n-key rollover with your bindings etc)
• External power delivery

It's going to be a grind I'm afraid, but the only way to completely track it down is going to be to isolate one factor at a time and test. Make a methodical list like the one above (it's only an example, I don't know exactly what peripherals you're using or what your PC environment is like) and work through the list one-by-one until you rule out the problem.

edit: LOL, you post about house wiring issues 90 seconds before I post this! I'm not saying it's definitely that, but it wouldn't be the craziest answer....

LMAO tbh I always did have it in the back of my head but I never really paid much mind to it, but the fact I've had this same exact problem since 8 months ago spanning from 4 other different spec rigs tells me differently (Nvidia gpus, two 2060 i5 rigs and a 3060ti i7 rig) my family also told me recently a wall socket down in the basement literally fried up it was black as the void lol, definitely going to give an electrician a call but in the mean time I'll ex out the rest (kb&m, audio, network and user config), if this is the case I'll gift everyone here a tf2 cosmetic LOL no joke.

 

[AusWolf]

I see there's a lot of discussion. I didn't read all of it, and I apologise if I missed something.

The things I've noticed:

• CPU temp is a bit high, but not dangerous. Though heat isn't the only performance limiting factor these days. Your frequency seems to drop when the stutter occurs. What motherboard do you have? Can you access its CPU power settings in the bios and check what limits are set? Maybe it's a power or temperature setting that limits your CPU power. Limiting factors might also be hard-coded into the bios without letting you change them. It might also be a case of bad CPU power delivery system (VRM), though I doubt it.
• It is a prebuilt system, right? My first step with those is always to uninstall the factory operating system with the millions of garbage programs that nobody ever needs, and installing a clean OS of my own. Those preinstalled programs consume a lot of resources, and they may be integrated into the OS at a level that you may not be able to change without reinstalling your OS. Though this may void your warranty, so make sure to check your warranty terms and conditions first.

 

[xrobwx71]

edit: LOL, you post about house wiring issues 90 seconds before I post this! I'm not saying it's definitely that, but it wouldn't be the craziest answer....

I've seen it cause issues a handful of times in my 30 years of Shadetree IT experience.

 

[RJARRRPCGP]

Please use DDU and then install Adrenalin 21.8.2

 

[Chrispy_]

My first step with those is always to uninstall the factory operating system with the millions of garbage programs that nobody ever needs, and installing a clean OS of my own.

This was done on the first machine and didn't solve the issue, so can be assumed that the system image isn't at fault. I agree that a clean install is always better than one laden with preinstalled OEM crap, but we know for sure that the existing crap in the image isn't what's causing the stutters.

Please use DDU and then install Adrenalin 21.8.2

This was covered multiple times on pages 2 and 3 of this thread, both DDU and also clean install of windows and update to latest Adrenaline (21.8.2 at time of posting).

 

[AusWolf]

This was done on the first machine and didn't solve the issue, so can be assumed that the system image isn't at fault. I agree that a clean install is always better than one laden with preinstalled OEM crap, but we know for sure that the existing crap in the image isn't what's causing the stutters.

This was covered multiple times on pages 2 and 3 of this thread, both DDU and also clean install of windows and update to latest Adrenaline (21.8.2 at time of posting).

In that case, I apologise. I can also think of wonky CPU power/thermal settings in BIOS, or a weak power supply or motherboard VRM circuitry.

 

[Chrispy_]

In that case, I apologise. I can also think of wonky CPU power/thermal settings in BIOS, or a weak power supply or motherboard VRM circuitry.

No need to apologise, I jumped in on page 3 without really reading everything first either. I'm just swatting down things that have already been tried to avoid going in circles.

I don't think it's a BIOS setting or issue because this is the second machine, presumably on the factory BIOS but the identical first machine stuttered with the shipped BIOS and whatever settings powerspec set. OP's friend @Czaxi updated the BIOS which would have reset all preconfigured settings to defaults anyway, ruling out some dumb setting Powerspec had set in the shipped configuration.

The PSU brand is unlisted, but Microcenter say it's a 54A 650W unit and Powerspec say it's an 80Plus Gold, so we have a single-rail 80Plus Gold which means it's unlikely to be garbage, especially twice in a row! http://www.powerspec.com/systems/system_specs.phtml?selection=G510

The board VRMs are Asus Prime B550-A which seem decent, if on the cheaper end. Given that weak-ass three-phase B450 VRMs are out there running 3900X and 3950X without crashing/stuttering, a piddly 65W TDP like the 5600X shouldn't pose issues on a 5+3 phase (I think) modern B550 board.

That's my logic anyway; Putting it up there in case someone can find holes in it.

 

[Ferd]

maybe the electrical inside my house

Yeah keep us updated, I mean if it turns out that electricity coming from the mains is the culprit that would be very eye opening , afaik PSUs have come a long way in regards to filtering the electrical noise , and even within the motherboard vrms are some pretty good filtering circuits ... maybe the type of noise is something they didn’t expect or account for during design, but we’ll wait and see , always learning new things from problems , I just hope you’ll end up with a system to play ur titles in peace