The RX 6000 series Owners' Club

[Valantar]

what is the point of having ref design AND replacing HS with waterblock? PCB is PCB lol

It's much easier to sell an air cooled card than a water cooled one, plus it's nice to have the option to switch to air cooling if I should want to move away from water at some point. Not that I'm likely to change my current build for a few years, but I'm definitely considering going all air at some point due to weight and simplicity.

 

[AleXXX666]

The 6500 XT I got for testing needed an RMA.
GPU prices fell to the ground due to Argentinian economic madness, the usual.
Told the vendor to get me a 6600 instead, I would pay the difference.
Thanks to the lower prices, I paid next to nothing.
So now I own a Sapphire Pulse RX 6600, and I'm loving it.

i've had 3060ti in hard prices times just because i was tyred of no gaming lol
sold it out and got 6600. happy as baby lol
it's enough for me, 3060ti was overkill for my games (hitman 3 and GTA V at most, nfs a little)

It's much easier to sell an air cooled card than a water cooled one, plus it's nice to have the option to switch to air cooling if I should want to move away from water at some point. Not that I'm likely to change my current build for a few years, but I'm definitely considering going all air at some point due to weight and simplicity.

yea water is nice, but custom is such a mess i don't even bother lol

 

[GoldenX]

i've had 3060ti in hard prices times just because i was tyred of no gaming lol
sold it out and got 6600. happy as baby lol
it's enough for me, 3060ti was overkill for my games (hitman 3 and GTA V at most, nfs a little)

The lower power consumption alone makes up for it, the thing barely gets hot, and is small AF.

 

[Athlonite]

what is the point of having ref design AND replacing HS with waterblock? PCB is PCB lol

No unfortunately that isn't always the case Manufacturers are free to design their own most only use the reference design in the beginning runs until they've got their own design up and running so buying a reference air or water style cooling kit to use on a non reference design card may not work it all depends on how far from the reference design manufacturers departed from that design with their own

 

[Valantar]

No unfortunately that isn't always the case Manufacturers are free to design their own most only use the reference design in the beginning runs until they've got their own design up and running so buying a reference air or water style cooling kit to use on a non reference design card may not work it all depends on how far from the reference design manufacturers departed from that design with their own

True, though hardly an issue with my Liquid Devil Ultimate as it came with a water block and probably has a higher end PCB than the reference card. It's just a bit wasted on me given that I have no interest in OC'ing, plus I like the less ostentatious style of the reference card + some of the waterblocks for it better than the LDU, as well as their slightly smaller size. Still, in my case I got what was available at the time, and I'm really not complaining at all.

 

[Kabouter Plop]

And i just crashed again black screen wtf is wrong with these drivers if no issues with gaming other then randomly getting black screen at times either during video call or during a game, i just reseated my gpu cleaned contacts to be sure there no way its my PSU and i doubt its my memory again i solved that already its not even running as close as hot where it would normally get errors. what are the odds memory is faulty last time it would not take 1 stick and it ended up with 1 stick having 3 dirty contacts i cleaned it and it works again crashes stopped now its giving me black screens why am i so unlucky, i could't get a single good G9 they all had dead pixels 1 valve index with bright pixel now my computer is feeling like its dying especially gpu im fed up, how do i trouble shoot this if i do not get any memory errors ?

 

[Valantar]

why am i so unlucky, i could't get a single good G9 they all had dead pixels

They pretty much literally all did, so that's not bad luck, it's just that monitor.

As for your black screen issues: does AMD Software give you driver crash error notifications afterwards? What does the Event Log tell you about what is going on with the system at the time (both System and Application logs)? Does only the screen go black, or does the system actually shut down (e.g. does audio keep playing)?

 

[Kabouter Plop]

It does if i wait or if i do win+alt+ctrl+shift+b and i can bug report but no dmp file or anything, and when i restart whatsapp video call it usually black screens within 10 minutes now i installed 21.12.1 last years last driver and 25 minutes no black screen so far while on desktop or doing both videocall + playing world of warcraft, altho these black screens can vanish for days then reappear after days and consistently showup again as if i have a leak or something 1 drop causing a short until it dries up the next day or something altho im very confident i have no leaks.
I really like noise supression since i can apply it to others as well i have a cloud flight s so i can leave it on all the time without issue of it doing weird things to my own audio like music, i make a lot of whatsapp video calls with people that type a lot on keyboard which it can now filter out, so i am hoping the next driver adresses these black screens, if had memory issues couple months ago but i fixed that already set my ram speed from 3600 to 3200 and even turned off pbo and still black screened within 10 minutes.
20 minutes while gaming 20 minutes whatsapp video call while not gaming on 21.12.1 0 black screens so far.
edit: 1 hour and 13 minutes no issues so far on 21.12.1
2 hours and 12 minutes in total no black screen guess i be testing for least a week or maybe 2 unless AMD pushed 22.7.2 and fixes stability

 

[AlwaysHope]

Impressed by the ridiculously low power consumption with an Asus RX 6800 XT TUF edition using 22.6.1 (WHQL) drivers playing Wolfenstein: The New Order @ 1440p Ultra, too bad the game is capped at 60fps!
8 hrs playing so far it varies between 52w & 71w according to HWiNFO GPU Asic power readings in maximum output value column + the benefit of 0db fan noise!

 

[Athlonite]

Surely that cap is only artificial though can you not edit some .ini file to remove it
A quick duckduck search finds this tidbit of info

All you have to do is bring up the command console (while in-game) and type “toggle com_synctotime”. Now you’ll have to do this each and every time you launch the game. Or you can simply add “+toggle com_synctotime” as launch options and you won’t have to bother with this command ever again.

 

[Kabouter Plop]

You can uncap the framerate of wolfenstein new order there are mods.

 

[Chomiq]

Impressed by the ridiculously low power consumption with an Asus RX 6800 XT TUF edition using 22.6.1 (WHQL) drivers playing Wolfenstein: The New Order @ 1440p Ultra, too bad the game is capped at 60fps!
8 hrs playing so far it varies between 52w & 71w according to HWiNFO GPU Asic power readings in maximum output value column + the benefit of 0db fan noise!
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Seriously? The game has one of the bests performing engines in this decade and they opted for 60 fps cap? That's nonsense.

 

[AVATARAT]

It does if i wait or if i do win+alt+ctrl+shift+b and i can bug report but no dmp file or anything, and when i restart whatsapp video call it usually black screens within 10 minutes now i installed 21.12.1 last years last driver and 25 minutes no black screen so far while on desktop or doing both videocall + playing world of warcraft, altho these black screens can vanish for days then reappear after days and consistently showup again as if i have a leak or something 1 drop causing a short until it dries up the next day or something altho im very confident i have no leaks.
I really like noise supression since i can apply it to others as well i have a cloud flight s so i can leave it on all the time without issue of it doing weird things to my own audio like music, i make a lot of whatsapp video calls with people that type a lot on keyboard which it can now filter out, so i am hoping the next driver adresses these black screens, if had memory issues couple months ago but i fixed that already set my ram speed from 3600 to 3200 and even turned off pbo and still black screened within 10 minutes.
20 minutes while gaming 20 minutes whatsapp video call while not gaming on 21.12.1 0 black screens so far.
edit: 1 hour and 13 minutes no issues so far on 21.12.1
2 hours and 12 minutes in total no black screen guess i be testing for least a week or maybe 2 unless AMD pushed 22.7.2 and fixes stability

I suppose that with the last drivers AMD touched the power control, which gives us a bit more performance but there is a more high power draw. So yeah you can get a restart or black screen so you need a bit more voltage or to reduce the clock a little.
About the black screen when I got it I wait for 10-20 sec and then I used Ctrl+Alt+Del this most times worked and weak up the display.

 

[Kabouter Plop]

6900 XT has no way to increase voltage only undervolt and i only use rage profile for 24/7 use
You can restart gpu driver with Win + Ctrl + Shift + B

 

[AlwaysHope]

You can uncap the framerate of wolfenstein new order there are mods.

& keep the physics in order? I've used crap like that before in FO4 & it did not go well.

Seriously? The game has one of the bests performing engines in this decade and they opted for 60 fps cap? That's nonsense.

It is what it is.

However, the game is poorly optimised from what I've seen in vanilla. There are parts of the game where the fps drop below 50 on my system & the sound is distorted in some parts as well.

 

[AVATARAT]

6900 XT has no way to increase voltage only undervolt and i only use rage profile for 24/7 use
You can restart gpu driver with Win + Ctrl + Shift + B

Rage is not power efficient. I use custom settings in Driver menu with undervolt and overclock.
Yes, but this does not always help to resolve the black screen.

 

[Kabouter Plop]

Yes, but this does not always help to resolve the black screen.

No those will keep comming but for me it stays black for like 20 30 seconds so doing that speeds up the proces of driver being restarted

 

[AVATARAT]

No those will keep comming but for me it stays black for like 20 30 seconds so doing that speeds up the proces of driver being restarted

It's depend on how hardly it crashed

 

[Kabouter Plop]

It's depend on how hardly it crashed

If had it happen frequently when doing video calls in whatsapp there the standard whatsapp for destkop and the beta app had it during both but the beta has no drag lag anymore in windows 11 22h2 while if also had it in 21h2 with same 22.7.1 driver

 

[Valantar]

6900 XT has no way to increase voltage only undervolt and i only use rage profile for 24/7 use
You can restart gpu driver with Win + Ctrl + Shift + B

... so maybe try without applying an auto OC profile? Not that the clock differences are likely to be significant from that, but it does boost the power limit a bit. It might be that the latest driver has tweaked something about how the card handles clock and voltage adjustments or similar, and that these specific tweaks now render the Rage profile unstable on your hardware. There's no guarantee for an OC to be stable after all, and definitely no guarantee for an auto OC to be stable. Go back to balanced, or try some manual tweaking? The Rage profile is kind of stupid anyhow; you'll get higher boost clocks and more efficient operation by undervolting.

 

[Kabouter Plop]

Rage profile is not oc i believe its just 3% increase those profiles should always be rock stable, anyway it more and more starting to look like most recent drivers being least stable so far that if ever had, and im pretty sure if never seen driver cause driver crashes like this before maybe once i dont remember which driver but its another recent driver i think, i guess i find out soon enough worse case scenario something is wrong with my system and i wont find out anytime soon what the cause is, lucky me tho i have a spare PSU evga 1300 g2 in my truenas server so in worse case scenario i test that to but im not in the mood to mount my psu in the case and redo all cabling

 

[Valantar]

Rage profile is not oc i believe its just 3% increase those profiles should always be rock stable

There is no such thing as a stable OC profile outside of OC bioses provided by the board partner. AMD does not have the resources or time to test every partner GPU at every profile with all kinds of different surrounding components, test conditions and workloads. All OC is a risk, including an AMD-provided profile. Rid yourself of that belief, as it is just plain untrue.

Have you tested at stock settings? Have you tested with a manual OC to match the rage profile alongside a slight undervolt?

 

[Kabouter Plop]

I dont have a third party gpu i have an AMD gpu quite litterally its bassicly stock with a waterblock slapped onto it, im not overclocking undervolting or anything except picking the least silent option aka rage profile since im watercooled its not overheating or anywhere close to overheating either.

 

[GreiverBlade]

If there are any people switching from green to red camp here -- Have you made the switch then discovered that red camp runs games like absolute garbage till the second or third time you load up the same game? Its like its caching stuff. At the same time its awkward because I can load up a game of BF4 and that game ran absolutely flawlessly.

Ive never had this phenomenon when moving between Nvidia cards. Warframe ran like absolute butthole the first time as did guildwars 2 but the more i played the better my fps got although im still not getting the same smooth performance in that game as i did my 1080Ti.

Im just curious if this is the way AMD did things. First time back with AMD since the ATi 6970 in 2010 so im not 100% upto date with the way they do things.

nope ... although i had to DDU twice and install the latest drivers from adrenalin (and not form TPU ) but since then: everything went flawless anything i play run 1620p60 max settings (noAA because who need AA @3k )

tbf, i had way more issues with Nvidia driver than AMD

what is the point of having ref design AND replacing HS with waterblock? PCB is PCB lol

well, most waterblock manufacturer only do one fitting only ref design (i had that with my R9 290 back in the days)
although it's not uncommon to see custom card with ref board design nonetheless ... (or some manufacturer like EK to list some speciall card, usually the most expensives like a "KingPong" yeah i know not the correct spelling )

 

[AVATARAT]

I dont have a third party gpu i have an AMD gpu quite litterally its bassicly stock with a waterblock slapped onto it, im not overclocking undervolting or anything except picking the least silent option aka rage profile since im watercooled its not overheating or anywhere close to overheating either.

Just to show you temps/watts/fps:
my game profile - undervolt + overclock
one test (I just crate it) - undervolted
and Rage profile