System Name | Adison "Open Space" 19 |
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Processor | Intel Pentium II, 350MHz |
Motherboard | Chaintech 6BTM, Slot 1 |
Cooling | SECC Cartridge |
Memory | 1x 64MB, PC100 |
Video Card(s) | ATI Rage IIc AGP, Diamond Monster 3DII 12MB |
Storage | BTC BCD-40XH, Quantum Fireball 3.5 Series, EX6.4 GB |
Display(s) | LG StudioWorks 57M |
Case | Adison Midi Tower, ATX |
Audio Device(s) | Creative SoundBlaster 128 |
Power Supply | Codegen 300W |
Mouse | Genius SlimStar 110, PS/2 |
Keyboard | Genius SlimStar 110, PS/2 |
Software | Microsoft Windows 98 |
I respectfully disagree with this statement. No offense meant, of courseThis is generally because there is very little that ran on 95/98/ME that would not also run perfectly on XP.
Processor | Core i7-13700 |
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Motherboard | MSI Z790 Gaming Plus WiFi |
Cooling | Cooler Master RGB something |
Memory | Corsair DDR5-6000 small OC to 6200 |
Video Card(s) | XFX Speedster SWFT309 AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT CORE Gaming |
Storage | 970 EVO NVMe M.2 500GB,,WD850N 2TB |
Display(s) | Samsung 28” 4K monitor |
Case | Phantek Eclipse P400S |
Audio Device(s) | EVGA NU Audio |
Power Supply | EVGA 850 BQ |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Hero |
Keyboard | Logitech G G413 Silver |
Software | Windows 11 Professional v23H2 |
I upgraded from Win98 SE to Windows Me then Windows XP Home Edition skipped Windows Vista after trying it a couple of times for Windows 7.Win98 .... hooray for SE and addition of the back button. Was pretty sweet.
Then this happened. Noticed we skipped right over it. Better or worse than Vista?
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System Name | Dell T3500 |
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Processor | Xeon X5687 |
Motherboard | Dell - 9KPNV |
Cooling | Dell U016F |
Memory | 12gb ECC 1333 |
Video Card(s) | MSI rx480 gaming X |
Storage | 1tb WD blue |
Case | Dell T3500 |
Processor | Core i7-13700 |
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Motherboard | MSI Z790 Gaming Plus WiFi |
Cooling | Cooler Master RGB something |
Memory | Corsair DDR5-6000 small OC to 6200 |
Video Card(s) | XFX Speedster SWFT309 AMD Radeon RX 6700 XT CORE Gaming |
Storage | 970 EVO NVMe M.2 500GB,,WD850N 2TB |
Display(s) | Samsung 28” 4K monitor |
Case | Phantek Eclipse P400S |
Audio Device(s) | EVGA NU Audio |
Power Supply | EVGA 850 BQ |
Mouse | Logitech G502 Hero |
Keyboard | Logitech G G413 Silver |
Software | Windows 11 Professional v23H2 |
I would have to say neither. Flaky hardware was more likely to blame. I did a in place upgrade from 98 to Me without any trouble.Better or worse than Vista?
None taken.I respectfully disagree with this statement. No offense meant, of course
Oh of course. My point was that most games from the 9X era will run fine on XP. There are some that do not, that's to be expected, but compatibility factors for 9X software on XP was a huge concern for Microsoft BITD and they delivered.I can tell you from personal experience that there are PLENTY of games which could run on W9x/ME, but NOT under W2k, and/or XP.
Hey now... WinME, when properly configured, ran great and was easily more stable than 95 or 98. Problem was, it needed to be properly config'd as the OOB default experience was less than optimal.Win98 .... hooray for SE and addition of the back button. Was pretty sweet.
Then this happened. Noticed we skipped right over it. Better or worse than Vista?
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System Name | Gamer |
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Processor | Ryzen 7 5800X3D |
Motherboard | Gigabyte X570 Aorus Elite WIFI |
Cooling | Apogee XL, MCR360, MCP655, Micro-rez |
Memory | 2x16GB G.Skill DDR4-3600 CL16 |
Video Card(s) | Red Dragon RX 6800 XT |
Storage | WD SN850 1TB & SN750 1TB |
Display(s) | LG 32GK650F-B 32" 1440p 144Hz |
Case | Rocketfish (Lian Li) e-ATX |
Audio Device(s) | Harman Kardon HK695 2.1 |
Power Supply | Seasonic Focus GM-750 |
Mouse | HP Gaming wired |
Keyboard | Logitech G110 wired |
VR HMD | HP WMR 1440^2 |
Software | Win10 Pro 64bit |
Vista SP2 runs on a similar level as Win7 and was a real joy to use. However, even with 4GB system RAM the release version of Vista was problematic. SP1 fixed things up quite a bit.Vista has a similar bad rap, which was mostly due to not having enough RAM. The official minimum was 512mb, but the real world minimum was 2gb. I ran Vista on a 3.2ghz northwood with 4x512mb of ddr1-400 & it worked very good for me.
Processor | 5800X3D -30 CO |
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Motherboard | MSI B550 Tomahawk |
Cooling | DeepCool Assassin III |
Memory | 32GB G.SKILL Ripjaws V @ 3800 CL14 |
Video Card(s) | ASRock MBA 7900XTX |
Storage | 1TB WD SN850X + 1TB ADATA SX8200 Pro |
Display(s) | Dell S2721QS 4K60 |
Case | Cooler Master CM690 II Advanced USB 3.0 |
Audio Device(s) | Audiotrak Prodigy Cube Black (JRC MUSES 8820D) + CAL (recabled) |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime TX-750 |
Mouse | Logitech Cordless Desktop Wave |
Keyboard | Logitech Cordless Desktop Wave |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
Same score as an FX running at an equal clock. Quite impressive of Nehelem, considering the architecture was three years older.I would start with a run at my R15 score.
The more the merrier! Would definitely like to see detailed results from 99 max as I got the figures. We could also try some games.Any particular benches and settings you would like me to run?
That's mighty generous of you Good to see those oldtimers will still receive some TLC.As for my computer collection, I sold & gave most of them away. We are talking approx. 15-20 machines
System Name | Dell T3500 |
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Processor | Xeon X5687 |
Motherboard | Dell - 9KPNV |
Cooling | Dell U016F |
Memory | 12gb ECC 1333 |
Video Card(s) | MSI rx480 gaming X |
Storage | 1tb WD blue |
Case | Dell T3500 |
The shirt made me chuckle. My experience with ME is very limited and near none with Vista. Went from XP straight to Win7. Do remember System Restore in ME. If only Win98 had such a feature my early days would have been much easier.Edit: I do like that t-shirt though, Susquehannok. Funny stuff.
Sounds good. Run some more 99max tests. Just downloaded WinTune98, 3dWinbench, Sandra, and CPU-Z 1.57. Will share some benches soon.The more the merrier! Would definitely like to see detailed results from 99 max as I got the figures. We could also try some games.
It's not retro until it's not longer in common use. Windows 7 is still in use by at least 20% of the computers in the world. Regardless of it's "unsupported" status, it's still a current OS.As an afterthought, all this time fiddling with Win7 it didn't occur to me that I was dealing with a retro/legacy operating system. I find it hard to believe that Win7 is nearly 12 years old at this point and officially unsupported
System Name | Dell T3500 |
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Processor | Xeon X5687 |
Motherboard | Dell - 9KPNV |
Cooling | Dell U016F |
Memory | 12gb ECC 1333 |
Video Card(s) | MSI rx480 gaming X |
Storage | 1tb WD blue |
Case | Dell T3500 |
Processor | Ryzen 2600 |
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Motherboard | X470 Tachi Ultimate |
Cooling | AM3+ Wraith CPU cooler |
Memory | C.R.S. |
Video Card(s) | GTX 970 |
Software | Linux Peppermint 10 |
Benchmark Scores | Never high enough |
Stack of Celeron S 1400s arrived in a chip lot. All bent up but otherwise fine. Started straightening up the pins and picking through them. Got a little carried away with benchmarking.
This is the best of the bunch. I may very well grab the mod BIOS for the TUSL2-C and maybe try some 2v sub-ambient madness in the future, but this is definitely my go-to Tualatin reference chip from here on.
uh, nice stuff!!
can you do some more comparisons vs Pentium 4? I was expecting the Tualatin (even if it's the 256k varian) to be a bit better vs an almost identically clocked Pentium 4
also some PC133 CL2 would be nice if you have some around
System Name | 4K-gaming |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ PBO +200 -20CO |
Motherboard | Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 50, EKWB Vector TUF |
Memory | 32GB Kingston HyperX Fury DDR4-3200 |
Video Card(s) | Asus GeForce RTX 3080 TUF OC 10GB |
Storage | A pack of SSDs totaling 3.2TB + 3TB HDDs |
Display(s) | 27" 4K120 IPS + 32" 4K60 IPS + 24" 1080p60 |
Case | Corsair 4000D Airflow White |
Audio Device(s) | Asus TUF H3 Wireless / Corsair HS35 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 750W |
Mouse | Logitech MX518 + Asus ROG Strix Edge Nordic |
Keyboard | Roccat Vulcan 121 AIMO |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift CV1 |
Software | Windows 11 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | It runs Crysis |
System Name | Dell T3500 |
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Processor | Xeon X5687 |
Motherboard | Dell - 9KPNV |
Cooling | Dell U016F |
Memory | 12gb ECC 1333 |
Video Card(s) | MSI rx480 gaming X |
Storage | 1tb WD blue |
Case | Dell T3500 |
Irony ... I watched that less than an hour ago when running 99max and 2000 benchmarks on the voodoo4 system. Thanks to you I just now enjoyed it again on my win10 system and 43" monitor with full size stereo.
System Name | Master |
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Processor | Pair of Xeon X5675's @ 4.3 |
Motherboard | SR-2 Classified |
Memory | 12 GB of Corsair Dominator GT's @ 2000 7-7-7-21 |
Video Card(s) | EVGA GTX680 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova 750 |
Here you go.I may very well grab the mod BIOS for the TUSL2-C and maybe try some 2v sub-ambient madness in the future, but this is definitely my go-to Tualatin reference chip from here on.
I am in awe that this was 20 years ago... It just doesn't seem that long ago...
Processor | 5800X3D -30 CO |
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Motherboard | MSI B550 Tomahawk |
Cooling | DeepCool Assassin III |
Memory | 32GB G.SKILL Ripjaws V @ 3800 CL14 |
Video Card(s) | ASRock MBA 7900XTX |
Storage | 1TB WD SN850X + 1TB ADATA SX8200 Pro |
Display(s) | Dell S2721QS 4K60 |
Case | Cooler Master CM690 II Advanced USB 3.0 |
Audio Device(s) | Audiotrak Prodigy Cube Black (JRC MUSES 8820D) + CAL (recabled) |
Power Supply | Seasonic Prime TX-750 |
Mouse | Logitech Cordless Desktop Wave |
Keyboard | Logitech Cordless Desktop Wave |
Software | Windows 10 Pro |
A few weeks ago I spotted an infokiosk stuck at POST. It was running off a 2006 Dell with IDE and had a dead BIOS batteryI have seen XP on commercial machines three times in as many months. ATM machine, electronic register at local pub, and most surprisingly, as network in major US grocery chain 'Food Lion'. Register screens went down when in line and XP reboot screen popped up. BIOS was dated 2009.
Nice overclock on that Tualatin! Here's my Sempron for clock-for-clock comparison. I also have the latest AIDA results.This is the best of the bunch.
System Name | 4K-gaming |
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Processor | AMD Ryzen 7 5800X @ PBO +200 -20CO |
Motherboard | Asus ROG Crosshair VII Hero |
Cooling | Arctic Freezer 50, EKWB Vector TUF |
Memory | 32GB Kingston HyperX Fury DDR4-3200 |
Video Card(s) | Asus GeForce RTX 3080 TUF OC 10GB |
Storage | A pack of SSDs totaling 3.2TB + 3TB HDDs |
Display(s) | 27" 4K120 IPS + 32" 4K60 IPS + 24" 1080p60 |
Case | Corsair 4000D Airflow White |
Audio Device(s) | Asus TUF H3 Wireless / Corsair HS35 |
Power Supply | EVGA Supernova G2 750W |
Mouse | Logitech MX518 + Asus ROG Strix Edge Nordic |
Keyboard | Roccat Vulcan 121 AIMO |
VR HMD | Oculus Rift CV1 |
Software | Windows 11 Pro |
Benchmark Scores | It runs Crysis |
System Name | Star Platinum |
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Processor | Intel Core i5-3470 3.20GHz |
Motherboard | Gigabyte B75M-D3H |
Cooling | EKL |
Memory | 16GB DDR3-1600 |
Video Card(s) | Gigabyte GTX650 1GB GDDR5 |
Storage | 2x Seagate ST31000340NS 1TB SATA II |
Display(s) | Samsung 43 inch |
Case | Delux MG760 |
Audio Device(s) | Realtek High Definition Audio + X-Fi XtremeGamer SB0730 |
Power Supply | FSP Bluestorm II 500W |
Mouse | ASUS RoG Cerberus mouse |
Keyboard | Marvo KM400 keyboard |
Software | Windows 10 Enterprise LTSC 1809 |
One of the billboards in my town had to restart because of an error. What it was? A DX2200 running a P4 HT, all with Windows 7 surprisingly.Good point. My laptop tells me Win7 is out of date every time it's turned on.
Back to XP. From reading several articles it seems XP usage has actually risen last couple years. Estimated to be over 1.25% total in October 2020 which is more than Win8, Vista, and Chrome combined. No surprise here since I have seen XP on commercial machines three times in as many months. ATM machine, electronic register at local pub, and most surprisingly, as network in major US grocery chain 'Food Lion'. Register screens went down when in line and XP reboot screen popped up. BIOS was dated 2009. Customer behind me was an IT guy and we were both amazed.