X79 and/or rampage IV OC'ing thread for those of us still left....

[dalekdukesboy]

I think every good review has 980 Ti, 980, 970 maybe even 780 Ti in it + Fury X, Fury, 390(X) and RX 480/470.

I think 980 Ti will ultimately go the (sad) way of 780 Ti - it will be surpassed by 1070, it is even now, overclocks aside - they are ~similar. 970 was even slower than 780 Ti at release, 780 Ti was at the "heels" of 980. Now it's the opposite, 970 is faster and 980 is 20-30% away - I fear the same will happen to 980 Ti, just because of drivers.

Btw. GM200 (Titan X = 3072, 980 Ti = 2816 shaders) is that 601mm² chip, 980 is GM204, it's another chip with about ~380 mm² size, and all shaders activated (2048). 970 has 1664 shaders activated - actually I have one of the few "full GPUs" that are not a) the medium chip (eg 770/980/1080) and b) not a Titan Black or X and I really like the 780 Ti. It's so bad it only has 3072 Mb vram, will probably be limited by that sometime in the future soon. GF110 (GTX 580) is btw another example of a full activated big chip, which was not overly expensive at 500 bucks release.

Also every "good review" may be true but many people I have run across who follow closer than I noted the lack of ti's in particularly the earlier reviews, it did too well next to 1070 in particular so I even heard people saying reviewers were instructed not to by partners' etc. Obviously that was all heresay and rumors, just saying it was said and it was out there at one point.

 

[Ithanul]

That's how little I know of F@H truthfully, I just looked up BOINC and I see it's similar to F@H. Never done it or mining so somehow at some point I got my wires crossed thought they were related. Oh well, I'm 0 fer tonight on a couple tech things, happens when you get older.

I did mining a few years ago, but never could get into it. The cost of electricty offset trying to mine.

I like doing F@H and especially BOINC since I can push my hardware, but help out with research as well. Plus, I have a thing for collecting badges. Have several over in OCN for folding. BOINC has badges too, and there is a whole bunch of them. Even tiers depending on certain research.

WCG has several types of research. So far I have a gold badge in Cancer Markers, Bronze in OpenZika, Bronze in Ebola, and soon to be Bronze in Fighting AIDS. It the whole reason I nabbed the 3930K and 5960X. More cores means more WUs I can do.

Just to show you how much stuff I run on this poor 4770K atm. The 5960X once drop in will be abused even worse.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Well obviously the 5960 will get you the most just not sure how well the newer architecture and couple extra cores will get you in those various folding-type activities.

 

[Kanan]

I thought of that after I said it, been a while since I looked at the 900 series chip for chip but I should have remembered totally different chip..does make me wonder what they do with the chips that are ti's that didn't make the cut...Must have had some productive use for them beside scrap lol. Yes that is why I feel comfortable with this chip (yes true the titan was the full chip but expensive and didn't clock well without really good cooling) because it has 6 gigs of ram on it so I know it won't be gimped in gaming soon by lack of memory. Part of the reason I didn't like my gtx 980 even with 4 gigs of memory a heavily modded Skyrim used up pretty much all of that, whereas 6 gig is pretty safe and if I needed more this chip probably wouldn't be enough for whatever game/app that would be anyway. I'll have to check out that BOINC, never heard of it, heard of folding of course but that's to get bitcoins which I'm not about to do.

They get trashed - those who even don't make it to 980ti. But 28nm tsmc is so mature I doubt it's many chips.

Well I don't read bad reviews and I don't care about them either. As egoistic as it sounds but it's not my problem. But anyone with the slightest clue should know that 980ti still is pretty good.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Such a waste, but I guess just what they anticipate and they throw them out with the idea of acceptable losses and part of the "shrink" aspect of doing business. Anyway finally dialing in some good numbers with memory at a good timing and the cpu @ 4.6 ghz. CAS 10 on memory @ 2400 mhz.

just for reference this was my first result on first page of this thread. Big difference, much better temps and everything is performing at a much higher level be it timings or 100 extra mhz on the core...and I definitely could get 4.7-4.8 stable on this I'm sure.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Had a little fun seeing what super pi would do at 5.0 ghz and good memory speed and timings. Not bad...

 

[Kanan]

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Had a little fun seeing what super pi would do at 5.0 ghz and good memory speed and timings. Not bad...

You could disable all cores but 1 and run it on even higher clocks - super pi is a single core app. I did the same a few years ago with my old Phenom II 940 @ 4ghz, normal Max overclock with all cpus was only 3.7ghz.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Oh I know, I wasn't clocking it really for that purpose, was just playing around to see what it would boot at with memory clocked high etc. Was able to do some light things like super PI and open email etc, wasn't anything resembling stable but no blue screen etc which I was getting before, found a couple settings I needed to bump up in particular to make it at least benchmark stable I guess you'd call it. Yeah, if I really want to see how good a Super pi result I can get I will do that, I do know it is single threaded which is why this cpu and setup is not even the best way to go at it because you could get a dual core or quad core to clock way higher especially under . I actually just was thinking I should run something to see what it would do...I think I'm going to just bite the bullet and buy a few good benchmarking programs for gpu/memory/cpu. I know everyone has everest , passmark, 3dmark....any others anyone can suggest?

I had really cranked the pll voltage which seems a very, very key voltage for many high OC's whether it's memory related OR just a high CPU mhz overclock so that is really reason I was at 5.0 ghz. I also lowered cpu voltage to 1.49 which I didn't get it to post at before.

I figured I'd highlight my question since it's buried in my usual lengthy musings and off the cuff stream of consciousness-type answers.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

I have basic 3dmark 11 version with "performance" preset as only option and I ran it...think last I used it I may have had 2 gtx 480's been a while. Anyway can't really complain about the results, decent OC on the card but may be bit more I can squeeze out.

Actually I take it back, card was either not overclocked or at the least the memory had reset after a few hard resets in windows when I was pushing clocks earlier...gonna try it again with OC I think is benchmark stable.

 

[Kanan]

Pretty good score but I'd rather do Firestrike at this point. Also if you switch to Win 10 finally, do some Time Spy.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Yeah I was about to download those two things, but with relatively slow internet this was quickest thing I could download in minutes not hours, those two will take hours was few gigs for those two programs. Was trying to do a quick run at like 5.0 ghz but bluescreening in windows, so unless it just is being fussy I'm missing something I did earlier today to get into windows at 5.0 ghz and do super pi and I think I went online and such so was at least a few minutes (not long) but just now I tried and no go. Anyway I will keep playing around and see what I can come up with. I was actually surprised I was that high in the rankings with that run, the score below me is 2 gtx 980's in sli, just goes to show how much faster the ti is.

 

[Kanan]

2 gtx 980 in sli are waaay faster, that's 4096 cores against 2816, the ti has not the slightest chance. Either he has a weak cpu or something else is wrong there.

Which two things? Time spy doesnt work under win 7, it's dx12 thats why I was talking about win 10. Just do it, switch the OS.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Yeah, unless it's something with that program that just gimps multi GPU's and they scale terribly, but yeah that stood out as odd to me.

 

[Kanan]

haha you really don't want to install win 10, obvious how you ignored that part of my post.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

I was going to address that but I was nodding off so didn't want to go there, but yeah I woulda said thanks but no thanks. Maybe I will upgrade but my Dad's laptop has it and I go over his house to help him with it and it is wonky and I have a laptop I rarely use when my board early on in this thread died etc, and I'm not impressed. Added my OC"d result but to wrong post, lol just a heads up not sure if it notifies you when I edit a post, but I got almost 22k when I clocked my GPU up. Was good for couple hundred points.

 

[Kanan]

Well you must upgrade someday I don't see the point in having a new gpu and a old os. Win10 is really okay, just deactivate the spy ware and set it up to your likings that's it.

Yeah saw the points now, i don't get a notification though.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

If it were a free upgrade like it were I'd consider it, but that offer ran out and thanks to the incorrect anti-pirate software of microsoft my win 7 has been flagged as not genuine and I refused to call Microsoft to reset it when it was and always has been legit it's their junk software that makes so many false positive non genuine assessments. Anyway after getting my motherboard/gpu/water cooler/memory etc I've already overspent what I intended.

 

[Kanan]

Well being lazy never pays off I guess.

I guess it's okay for the time being dx12 isn't really important right now and vulcan should work under win7. But you miss the time spy benchmark

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Lazy? Didn't think I said that or implied it anywhere. Regardless if anything I've spent a lot of energy and money on this setup, and yeah, I think my life will continue perfectly fine without the time spy benchmark.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

BTW I wasn't being prickly or a jerk, just I refuted the lazy comment, the comment on the benchmark yeah that was a joke, but it was also true. That's the other thing, if my windows 7 ain't broke, why fix it? Just my thoughts. I have heard varying degrees of complaints and praise for it so considering I know 7 and it's reliable and even with my OC'ing it takes abuse and doesn't "break" so that by itself is a reasonable reason to keep it while I'm pushing the limits of overclocking. I have no idea how well windows 10 deals with instability and being pushed, some OS'es just don't put up with that very well.

 

[Kanan]

lol it's okay man I'm not offended. "Lazy" because you missed the free update of Win 10, that's why.
Win 10 is very reliable *at least* as reliable as 7. Also there's not much to "know" in Win 10 compared to 7, it's a simple OS still and many things, I'd say 80-90% is the same, you're making a drama out of it, but it's basically nothing. 8 or 8.1 were very good too, 10 is like 8 + 7 fused into 1 OS, it's really good aside from Microsoft spyware, but that's nothing new, I think every OS since XP had that. You remember XP Anti Spy? Yeah. I think if you'd switch to Win 10 you would understand all the differences in a few hours, maximum. It's still "Windows", nothing big changed.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Ok, I figured that was what you meant, but part of why I followed up was to see what you meant. I will note that my windows 7 has been "non-genuine" before that free offer even came out lol. Ok, but you just made my argument for me in a way without realizing it...if I already have so much of windows 10 already and it works great and nothing big changed....why should I spend money and risk losing my data when I attempt to update to 10? .

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Also where are all you guys with your benchmarks and OC'ing exploits? Bunch of you, well a few anyway, early on said you had x79 or something similar and would post benchies etc, please have at it! Unless of course your system isn't together yet etc of course

 

[Kanan]

why should I spend money and risk losing my data when I attempt to update to 10? .

Which risks, unless you're a noob? Because it's a way more modern OS, it has 10.000 small things and bigger things Win7 doesn't have, like DX12, Apps - it looks better, it feels better. When you move files it gives you a realistic estimation not a wild guess and you can pause/continue it instead of just canceling it. That's just a few features out of my head - the upgrade is worth it. You're behaving like a granny, want to use Win 7 forever or what? Okay.

Also where are all you guys with your benchmarks and OC'ing exploits? Bunch of you, well a few anyway, early on said you had x79 or something similar and would post benchies etc, please have at it! Unless of course your system isn't together yet etc of course

I think we're a dying species, not many people left that use X79 as their main system and/or actually care much about it to share it here.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Yep, I know not many use this platform hence I created the thread for it, granny? Come on, you can do better than that lameness. Also nothing about noobishness' simply I understand when I move data around or flash a bios etc always a risk however small it will either fail totally or data will get corrupted or not work correctly. That, and if saying it "looks" and "feels" better even entered your argument (which it did) then I know I am just fine with win 7 . DX12 I literally have 0 things that use it currently so yeah that'd help a lot, moving files etc rarely have to do much of that, I download more or upload more, and btw you can pause those with win 7.