X79 and/or rampage IV OC'ing thread for those of us still left....

[Kanan]

Okay nice. No I meant pictureso of the actual computer.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Function over form, hardly a thing of beauty particularly when it's a non-modular power supply, and this is after I have half of the wires routed so they go up around the GPU and out the back of the case. Not much to see really.

 

[Kanan]

It looks interesting all I asked for really. Didn't expect something else. Well the thing with airflow is it doesn't work if you open the case, at least it changes somewhat. If you want to close that case with the big overclocks still applied i'd say get a new case. Typical big old tower, it's simply not efficient up to today's standards. Also maybe new modular psu, but that's less important. Everything else looks pretty good. I think you could replace that vrm fan by replacing the tower with one that has better airflow.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Yeah, I admit its' appearance is less than secondary to me atm especially since I may be proud of the work I've done putting it together and tweaking it but not in how aesthetically pleasing it is. Yeah half the reason the case side is not on is simply due to all those wires that are bunched up around the end of the wicked long GPU cooler and there isn't much I can do with them other than stuff them in and screw case side on while pressing it on lol. That may work what you're saying but to get a new case means taking all of this out and essentially building my pc over again...after I already have done that multiple times with this including replacing the board a month ago so not happening due to the effort plus I've already exceeded budget so I'm not willing to drop more for a case/power supply etc. Also unless I put another fan on the vrm anything I do like you suggest would be a significant downgrade to the cooling of that area...that is 177 cfm blasting right where it's needed. Ambient or secondary airflow from nearby fans will not do it on that spot. You could fry eggs with it before, with that fan even while stress testing it's mostly cool to the touch with just a slight hint of warmness on the vrm heatsink which you'd always expect. Also I would need a fairly big case regardless maybe just less tall to fit mobo and huge rad in so at least for now this is what I've got. Just lowered some voltages and passed burntest with 1n timings! Oddly the benchmarks are better but the GFLOPS are not on burntest so that is a bit odd, but still very good result.

 

[Ithanul]

Thanks, also based on basic info from both of you about school and general conversation as an aside I'm guessing I probably am considerably older. Trig, ick, I stink with math...much more adept with English and writing.

I'm opposite, I suck at writing so English is my weak point. But give me Math or Science classes, and I'm good at it. Fast at learning it too since it been eight years since I done any short of high level math. I just love dealing with numbers. Reason after I get my Associate in Computer Science I am going to a different college to go for a Bachelor in Electrical Engineering. I forgot I love messing with hard math equations. So definitely want to take higher math courses. Though, can't wait for next term. I finally get to take a Physic class. Be my first time too. Though, I'm the sniky bugger who convince my advisor to sign me off on taking a math class so I did not have to take that darn placement exam (I dislike exams.......majorly). Whole reason I never took the ACT and I crap bomb the Air Force Sargent test. I straight up don't like multi choice tests. Reason I loved my Chem, Bio, and Math teachers back in High School. Few multi choice, whole bunch of problems where you show your work or explain out an answer for why that chemical equation balances out a certain way. I'm a odd ball gal.

Just on reason I am odd. I thought the final test my Anatomy and Physiology teacher was an actual challenge for once. Remembering 50 muscles by verbatim on what they did, where they connected from, and connected too was the first time I ever had to use flash cards. Then she only gave us 10 drawings out of the 50 for the final. Ah, I highly enjoyed that test.

 

[Kanan]

Yeah still I'd replace the case just so that it can be closed again or change the existing so that it can be closed. Open cases aren't a good idea on the long run because of dust etc.

The fans are pretty strong yeah. Because you abuse the board that much I guess you're right, not replaceable - only by another fan.

Ps. That psu is a real mess I'd at least replace that. I didn't use non modular psus since 2006 and my reasons are confirmed here.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Yeah, great psu high watts works great etc, but has a ton of connections which is good...and bad. The obvious bad is you have nothing you can do with them but hide them somewhere so yeah next psu I will get will be modular but atm as I said not in a position to spend at all but I will find a way to get wires in the case and put side on...also it has a spot for fan so may put one on side panel and/or put some on back of case to make a proper push/pull on the water cooling rad.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

I'm opposite, I suck at writing so English is my weak point. But give me Math or Science classes, and I'm good at it. Fast at learning it too since it been eight years since I done any short of high level math. I just love dealing with numbers. Reason after I get my Associate in Computer Science I am going to a different college to go for a Bachelor in Electrical Engineering. I forgot I love messing with hard math equations. So definitely want to take higher math courses. Though, can't wait for next term. I finally get to take a Physic class. Be my first time too. Though, I'm the sniky bugger who convince my advisor to sign me off on taking a math class so I did not have to take that darn placement exam (I dislike exams.......majorly). Whole reason I never took the ACT and I crap bomb the Air Force Sargent test. I straight up don't like multi choice tests. Reason I loved my Chem, Bio, and Math teachers back in High School. Few multi choice, whole bunch of problems where you show your work or explain out an answer for why that chemical equation balances out a certain way. I'm a odd ball gal.

Just on reason I am odd. I thought the final test my Anatomy and Physiology teacher was an actual challenge for once. Remembering 50 muscles by verbatim on what they did, where they connected from, and connected too was the first time I ever had to use flash cards. Then she only gave us 10 drawings out of the 50 for the final. Ah, I highly enjoyed that test.

I hear you, I'm not "typical" in about a few billion ways. Also yeah I cringed past a few of your errors you ironically made in your sentences as you typed about not being good at English lol. But, you do math, and I simply...do not. Well, other than basic stuff just to figure things out and such. Anyway I tried to bump up my memory and cpu by taking FSB above 100 but wouldn't cooperate when I tried, made too big a jump and guessed at voltages so I may have to take painful little .1 or .2 jumps in it to do so. However so far no complaints on the memory and I know I got it up to 2500 so I know that much in raw mhz I can do....now if I can get near that with good timings AND the CPU clocked high I'm in business for benchmarking.

 

[Kanan]

Yeah good luck.

 

[Ithanul]

I hear you, I'm not "typical" in about a few billion ways. Also yeah I cringed past a few of your errors you ironically made in your sentences as you typed about not being good at English lol. But, you do math, and I simply...do not. Well, other than basic stuff just to figure things out and such. Anyway I tried to bump up my memory and cpu by taking FSB above 100 but wouldn't cooperate when I tried, made too big a jump and guessed at voltages so I may have to take painful little .1 or .2 jumps in it to do so. However so far no complaints on the memory and I know I got it up to 2500 so I know that much in raw mhz I can do....now if I can get near that with good timings AND the CPU clocked high I'm in business for benchmarking.

Don't surprise me that I make some peeps cringe about my sentences. Would be even worse if you saw it without the auto corrects and the few fixes I do manage to catch. I make some very horrendous sentences. Going to feel sorry for the English teacher when I take the English class next term too. I so hope I can survive it as well.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

You'll do fine at school if you just believe in yourself and you apply yourself, you're obviously intelligent. Yeah I may need luck Kanan because I got the best hardware I can get and all I can do now is be patient and expect that at times it may fail plenty and I just have to keep at it and move in little steps up in mhz etc.

 

[Ithanul]

You'll do fine at school if you just believe in yourself and you apply yourself, you're obviously intelligent. Yeah I may need luck Kanan because I got the best hardware I can get and all I can do now is be patient and expect that at times it may fail plenty and I just have to keep at it and move in little steps up in mhz etc.

Thank you.

That the one deal with overclocking. It one heck of a patience game indeed.
Though, I did at one point thought I nuked a mobo while trying to overclock a friend's 5820K. Thank goodness for dual BIOS. Interesting learning experience since I had to get a bootable DOS drive made, and use it to flash a good BIOS to the one I manage to nuke.

 

[Kanan]

Actually dual bios is for messed up bios flashes or hacked/bad bioses - I guess a normal cmos reset would've done it too. That's why I tend to see dual bios as a relatively useless feature. Had it once on a GB mb and never needed it. My Asus mainboards didn't have the feature and it wasn't needed. Messed up bios with OC or something else? -> cmos reset via jumper. Used that countless times.

I got the best hardware I can get

Best hardware you can get? I don't think a "3960X ES bug edition" is the best. I'd bet you would get way better OC's with mine. It seems to be a late 3960X with very good abilities. With water I bet I could easily do a 5.2 GHz. But who cares, it's not really useful anyway.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Wow, you got epeen envy or something? lol. Seriously dude, I'm simply saying the best I can get for the platform I got and I can afford obviously. The motherboard literally was THE motherboard for overclocking on the platform, the cpu has one sensor which in reality is closer to right than the others probably, just the other ones are conveniently stuck low so helps for hardware abusers like me. At any rate I was agreeing I do need luck, because I have the best hardware I can get for what I'm doing, which I think is obviously what I was saying but I'll repeat in case that wasn't as clear as I thought it was...Obviously the best would be phase change or dry ice for quick runs and x99 asus rampage board with newest 10 core beast etc...none of which any of us have. So I simply was saying I do need luck, and the rest is the best I can and will get essentially. Also if you didn't care, you wouldn't go off about your cpu when I'm commenting on mine on my own thread.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Thank you.

That the one deal with overclocking. It one heck of a patience game indeed.
Though, I did at one point thought I nuked a mobo while trying to overclock a friend's 5820K. Thank goodness for dual BIOS. Interesting learning experience since I had to get a bootable DOS drive made, and use it to flash a good BIOS to the one I manage to nuke.

Yeah, couple times a backup bios has helped me but u. But generally clearing the cmos was enough, however I can think of times I did have to do more than that when the board simply would not reset itself. That was a while ago though I don't even remember the exact circumstance. Generally though you can only screw up a bios beyond repair by a bad flash otherwise pretty hard to corrupt it so badly it won't work well enough to boot.

 

[Kanan]

I don't think you get what I'm saying:

a) I'm not talking about other platforms such as X99

b) I don't care what I have compared to you, my GPU is for example far worse than yours did I say anything negative about that? No. If you'd understood that you wouldn't do such dumb accusations now.

c) for all I know I'm always being pretty selfless compared to you (always commenting on your stuff and rarely if at all posting about mine), and you accuse me of envy now? That's really funny.

"My own thread" - if you don't own this forum it's not "your" thread, you're only the thread starter. If all people here would ignore "your" thread, it would be "your" thread, yes. Would be somewhat senseless, but then it would be your thread yeah. But it's a good example of how egoistic you are at times. It's like saying "this is my discussion, because I started it". Discussions, same as threads, consist of multiple people, normally at least and if you're not a multiple personality. There's no "this is my discussion", so there's no "this is my thread". Seems that people tend to forget what internet & technology is about, and that it's only a tool to do what's done otherwise in real life. This is only a lengthy discussion, not more and not less - you don't own it.

So you accuse me of envy - maybe it is you that is full of envy, or why are you so bothered about the facts I stated? I just said my CPU is better, and you could OC more with it, what's the problem with that? You're probably so selfish, that everything here must be centered around you and what you're doing, same as saying "my own thread". You have a wrong sight on things, it seems. One time I say something selfish, really just one time, and you jump at me like that.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Right. It's obvious I'm the one obsessed and upset here. Also for reference:

dalekdukesboy said: ↑

Also where are all you guys with your benchmarks and OC'ing exploits? Bunch of you, well a few anyway, early on said you had x79 or something similar and would post benchies etc, please have at it! Unless of course your system isn't together yet etc of course

I kinda asked for input I got very little so I'm posting since I am doing stuff, you talked about your graphics card...and I responded appropriately. ^^ That however, is not appropriate, helpful, accurate, or relevant. I have no issue with you, but you are taking issue with me. The more you say "I don't care" simply means you do.

So I don't think you even get what you're saying, or how if you can go off like that crooked and half baked. I also like how much you think of yourself to judge someone you don't know and who types responses on a forum website. However, I do find you very entertaining doing psychological evaluations on a tech site with someone you don't know .

 

[dalekdukesboy]

I'd evaluate you from what I see, but far too much material and I don't do such things to people I don't know on a hardware site. So let's talk hardware and try and stick to the topic, capiche Govna?

 

[Kanan]

Everyone is a judge and no one is. You think humans are judges? No they are not. They try to be and fail miserably. Oh I know what I'm saying, don't waste your time on that. You just don't seem to get my point, but whatever, it's okay. And btw. you started the psychological shit, not me I just continued yours. Maybe you should buy yourself a mirror, before acting like that again. You're way off with your accusations, again, as already said.

Just because I gave you a psychological (back-)hint, doesn't mean I'm "evaluating you", that's impossible with that short informations I have - same with you trying to do it with me. Generally you guys started the psychological side of this thread, talking about age, gender, other bullshit that's off topic, not me. I really couldn't care less about it. I'm certainly not here for that.

Yep let's continue the tech talk.

 

[Ithanul]

It seems either a misunderstanding has occur or nerves have been put a bit on edge over words.

Probably best to leave the rest of the other subjects be, and get back to the hardware talk.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Right, agreed.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

So on that note, I managed CAS 9 finally after some fooling around with settings.

 

[Kanan]

So on that note, I managed CAS 9 finally after some fooling around with settings. View attachment 79268

Nice. Some news?

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Nice. Some news?

Honest question here, I don't know what you mean asking about some news lol. Maybe I'm a bit slow this Saturday PM but I read it and admittedly I'm not getting what you mean unless you just mean generally if I had info on my build as a whole? Anyway thanks for the comment, hoping someone starts putting benchmarks/news up here or I may try something dumb my pc can't do just for a benchmark lol.

One thing I do want to ask everyone who has or knows about the x79 and x99....other than being forced to overclock the FSB which pushes several things like pci-e and such to be overclocked is there any way to get odd memory mhz like 2570 etc? I've seen a guy who got that but not sure how he managed to do that pushing the bus from 100 to 107 or so when everything I read says these things really don't go over 104 max...

 

[Kanan]

Yeah was meant generally.

I don't know maybe he DID push it further - I have no other idea.