X79 and/or rampage IV OC'ing thread for those of us still left....

[Toothless]

Nice....How much 1680 V2 costed you if you do not mind me asking?

$110 before shipping/tax.

 

[lexluthermiester]

Got to 4.4ghz on 1.35v, let's see what the big boi chip does..

You'll likely get close to those speeds and likely the same voltage range..

Remember, the 3930K is a 32nm CPU, where as the 1680v2 is a 22nm design so the tolerances will generally even out and you'll have two extra cores and faster IPC per core.

Are you going to run with Specre/Meltdown mitigations enabled? If you intend to disable to preserve performance, are you going to turn off hyper-threading to kill Spectre/Meltdown through hardware?

$110 before shipping/tax.

That's a fair price given the current market state!

 

[Toothless]

You'll likely get close to those speeds and likely the same voltage range..

Remember, the 3930K is a 32nm CPU, where as the 1680v2 is a 22nm design so the tolerances will generally even out and you'll have two extra cores and faster IPC per core.

Are you going to run with Specre/Meltdown mitigations enabled? If you intend to disable to preserve performance, are you going to turn off hyper-threading to kill Spectre/Meltdown through hardware?


That's a fair price given the current market state!

Probably gonna leave it as is besides overclocking. I'm on a 12-13 day work week and not gonna have the brain power to deal with mitigations.

 

[Toothless]

Okay so since no one posted, I'ma double post an update.

This thing doesn't like overclocking. I've managed 4.2ghz at 1.271v with no vdroop since that was giving issues. The board doesn't have very many options for voltage control and seems to throw everything out the window in the bios. (Set 1.2v, gives 1.35v until it boots)

So far it barely goes over 60c with the Kraken x60. (Yes I know it says 65c on the board, leave me alone that's package temp) Sits with 32GB 1866mhz and will have the 1070 FE paired up.

Fan on VRM because I almost got burned touching it.

Gonna be so purdy when rebuilt.

 

[Meese]

Been tinkering away some more, got it stable at 5.549, blk 103.4, using vcore offset +.04 set LLC to high with ram at 2206 @ 1.6v, 9-10-10-28-1, get a better score with 28 over 26, tried 9-9-9-26 but wasn't stable. 85w 1.288/.296 vcore idle and 187w 1.304 at 100%. Don't like temp at 4.649 have to up the vcore to much to keep stable for daily use.
Temps now sit at 36c idle and 69 under 100% load on windows high performance power plan but if set to balanced cpu drops to 1.2mhz and 26/30c idle temps which is nice. Adjusted some other voltages aswell so they're not on auto(attached some pictures, see what you think and if I should adjust anything)

Running ram at 2206 I get a nice increase in my aida64 scores compared to 1934, wasn't really any difference in temps either, had to up the blk by .2 on 1934 as I was getting the write bug.

What package temps on hwinfo are more accurate the dts or enhanced as I'm get a 10c different between the two.

 

[lexluthermiester]

I've managed 4.2ghz at 1.271v

That's good for daily driving!

Been tinkering away some more, got it stable at 5.549, blk 103.4, using vcore offset +.04 set LLC to high with ram at 2206 @ 1.6v, 9-10-10-28-1

WOW!

 

[drizzler]

Typo 5.5 would be awesome

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Typo 5.5 would be awesome

Yep...I kinda knew that would be a typo unless you were using liquid nitrogen

Okay so since no one posted, I'ma double post an update.

This thing doesn't like overclocking. I've managed 4.2ghz at 1.271v with no vdroop since that was giving issues. The board doesn't have very many options for voltage control and seems to throw everything out the window in the bios. (Set 1.2v, gives 1.35v until it boots)

So far it barely goes over 60c with the Kraken x60. (Yes I know it says 65c on the board, leave me alone that's package temp) Sits with 32GB 1866mhz and will have the 1070 FE paired up.

Fan on VRM because I almost got burned touching it.

Gonna be so purdy when rebuilt.

Post to your heart's content...even if I don't reply I read them all, and enjoy them all! TY!

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Been tinkering away some more, got it stable at 5.549, blk 103.4, using vcore offset +.04 set LLC to high with ram at 2206 @ 1.6v, 9-10-10-28-1, get a better score with 28 over 26, tried 9-9-9-26 but wasn't stable. 85w 1.288/.296 vcore idle and 187w 1.304 at 100%. Don't like temp at 4.649 have to up the vcore to much to keep stable for daily use.
Temps now sit at 36c idle and 69 under 100% load on windows high performance power plan but if set to balanced cpu drops to 1.2mhz and 26/30c idle temps which is nice. Adjusted some other voltages aswell so they're not on auto(attached some pictures, see what you think and if I should adjust anything)

Running ram at 2206 I get a nice increase in my aida64 scores compared to 1934, wasn't really any difference in temps either, had to up the blk by .2 on 1934 as I was getting the write bug.

What package temps on hwinfo are more accurate the dts or enhanced as I'm get a 10c different between the two.

Nice...you can do some more fine tuning but seems like you really got "golden-sample" Xeon 1680 V2!!!

 

[repman244]

Just pulled a trigger on a 1680 V2, it will be a week or two before I get it.

Probably the last upgrade for this platform - I still can't believe how well X79 is holding up after all these years.

 

[drizzler]

Yeah, but i think X58 is / was quiet a bit better in this regard if you do not need 8+ cores or AVX workload. Back in the days X79 was more of a sidegrade to X58, but today AVX comes more into the game so overall X79 aged a bit better. These platforms were a bit ahead of its time.

 

[Zyll Goliat]

Yeah, but i think X58 is / was quiet a bit better in this regard if you do not need 8+ cores or AVX workload. Back in the days X79 was more of a sidegrade to X58, but today AVX comes more into the game so overall X79 aged a bit better. These platforms were a bit ahead of its time.

Sidegrade maybe IF you talking about 32nm and up to the 6c/12t even those was faster on X79....but 22nm/Ivy-Bridge was faster and overall improved(less heat&power)also X79 has variety of Xeons up to the 12c/24t + as you said AVX it's a big deal when it comes to the gaming especially in past few years....

 

[drizzler]

Sidegrade maybe IF you talking about 32nm and up to the 6c/12t even those was faster on X79....but 22nm/Ivy-Bridge was faster and overall improved(less heat&power)also X79 has variety of Xeons up to the 12c/24t + as you said AVX it's a big deal when it comes to the gaming especially in past few years....

I think it comes down to what performance numbers are personally considered to be a "sidegrade" and what platform gains you are pleased of.

I was running a w3680 (this is a xeon i7 980x) @4600ghz with 2400 ddr3 cl10 as a daily (all voltages within architecture specs) and comparing none avx loads like CB 15 :

4.6ghz 6core DDR 2400 X58 : 1104 MT , 144 ST (i was not able to find a screen of my daily but the 4.8ghz oc shows some 4.6 numbers (the X5675 number) that was the same for my final oc).

4.5ghz 6 X79 DDR 2600 (disabled 2 cores of my 1680) : 1230 MT, 162 ST

So we talk about ~ 10 % increase of MT-Performance and 11 % ST Performance.

Yeah it is 100mhz less but 4.6 is not giving much more. 166 ST, so we talk about 13 % ST and some gains in MT. Even if you assume 1300 MT what will be an unrealistic gain for just 100 mhz more we talk about 15 %. I can just validate the 166 ST due screenshot by myself. (have not tested the 6core performance of my 1680 in MT with 4.6ghz).

I was able to pick up a xeon 1650v2 setup for cheap 1 or 2 years before i decided to go with the 1680v2 and after testing it for me personally the performance gains were to less to take the hassle of rebuilding the system.

So i would consider even Ivybridge 6core to beeing a sidegrade coming from a good 6core Westmere/Gulftown OC in none AVX loads.

Now i am happy with the 1680v2 since my use case has changed and i can utilize the 2 more cores, AVX and the higher memory bandwith. Especially the artificially cut down write performance of X58 was weired.

And in my opinion back in the days X79 did not offer some must have feature that was forcing you to upgrade from X58 to X79. PCIE 3.0 was nothing you really needed and it was still lacking the native USB 3.0 support.

Nowadays the PCIE 3.0 is nice, the NVME modding possibility is also nice (nvme with x58 is only possible with drives coming with own orom or usb efi bootloader) and the option to use high core count cpus
is even nicer ;D as you said. So X79 aged really better.

 

[repman244]

For me it's not just the raw CPU performance, but the whole platform - a ton of PCI-E lanes, boards with good layout many PCI-e lanes and features. The X99 is even better in that regard IMO.
That's the reason I didn't go towards AMD threadripper - the motherboards suck, all the boards are some gaming crap which for me completely misses the point of that socket.

But anyway I just hope my motherboard doesn't die anytime soon because finding a replacement is very expensive (and no chinese boards are not a real replacement).

 

[Zyll Goliat]

For me it's not just the raw CPU performance, but the whole platform - a ton of PCI-E lanes, boards with good layout many PCI-e lanes and features. The X99 is even better in that regard IMO.
That's the reason I didn't go towards AMD threadripper - the motherboards suck, all the boards are some gaming crap which for me completely misses the point of that socket.

But anyway I just hope my motherboard doesn't die anytime soon because finding a replacement is very expensive (and no chinese boards are not a real replacement).

Yep...I totally Agree....I remember having Ryzen 1700 with some B450 ASRock motherboard that I decide to flip it and go for X79 Platform instead.....It's just the fact that B450 mobo looked like a toy to me and overall quality was just clearly garbage compared to the ANY X79 branded motherboard...Now not saying that there is NO good and Quality motherboard for AMD/Ryzen I am just saying that for about same price range I get so much more for the X79(back then)as overall package compared to what I could get for that particular Zen 1 platform......

 

[lexluthermiester]

(and no chinese boards are not a real replacement)

Sorry, my experience says otherwise.

 

[drizzler]

I was pretty sure 950 pro was last one and good to know plextor m6e works too. I just have latest bios and even though I have an older WD black m2 already here I just am weary of bricking my bios (never done it but was close). I suppose I have multiple bios chips so I could always just make sure to keep one that is current away from being flashed as a backup.

I forgot the M8Pe that is legacy bootable too

 

[dalekdukesboy]

Sorry, my experience says otherwise.

Speaking of that, I always have noticed all the Chinese boards that have shown up as replacements and wondered how good they'd be especially because even for X79 they have m2 slots etc which is....very interesting to me to say the least; Like this one....

HUANANZHI X79 Deluxe - Nonotree

Supports LGA2011 series processors Server-level CPU create extreme reliability, quickly edit images and videos, quickly multitask between programs, and show your creativity. Support NVIDIA and AMD series graphics cards Help you increase the speed of execution of various tasks, accelerate your...

nonotree.xyz

 

[lexluthermiester]

Speaking of that, I always have noticed all the Chinese boards that have shown up as replacements and wondered how good they'd be especially because even for X79 they have m2 slots etc which is....very interesting to me to say the least; Like this one....

HUANANZHI X79 Deluxe - Nonotree

Supports LGA2011 series processors Server-level CPU create extreme reliability, quickly edit images and videos, quickly multitask between programs, and show your creativity. Support NVIDIA and AMD series graphics cards Help you increase the speed of execution of various tasks, accelerate your...

nonotree.xyz

The ones I've been buying are "Machinist" brand. No problems with quality or functionality.

 

[dalekdukesboy]

The ones I've been buying are "Machinist" brand. No problems with quality or functionality.

I've seen those too! I just like the looks of these boards bit more than the machinists....

 

[lexluthermiester]

I've seen those too! I just like the looks of these boards bit more than the machinists....

I can see that. They are good looking boards.

 

[drizzler]

With the first releases you were not able to overlock beyond the official max turbo multiplier even with unlocked cpus and the vrm section was kind of weak (and getting pretty hot). Don't know about latest so...

 

[dalekdukesboy]

With the first releases you were not able to overlock beyond the official max turbo multiplier even with unlocked cpus and the vrm section was kind of weak (and getting pretty hot). Don't know about latest so...

Well this is the kind of stuff I want to know before even considering "upgrading" to a board such as this to keep my X79 system relevant.

 

[drizzler]

There are very active russian sites / communities around these boards with bios mods and stuff, but i never digged deeper into this.

 

[bobbybluz]

The new X79 build has begun. I finally got the gargantuan Cooler Master Cosmos II case all cleaned up and straightened out. I tested the electronics panel (power, reset, fan controllers, etc.) last night and everything is fully functional. Watching the fan button LED's change color according to speed settings is interesting and is pure 2012-era flash from when it came out. I discovered I have to do some Dremel modding to get the Arctic LF II 280 to mount properly (and externally in this instance). Because of that I'm going to use Silverstone FHP-141's instead of the Arctic fans. Upon eyeballing the initial layout not using the Cosmos II top cover will serve two purposes: The 280mm radiator and fans take up so much space it's not needed plus after modding if I ever decide to pull the radiator & fans and switch to a 240mm setup the cover completely hides the relocated 140mm fan and mounting holes plus the two slots that must be cut for the hoses. Win-win and I have only $35 invested in the case.

Whoever designed the case 10 years ago must have never considered using 38mm thick radiators like the Arctics much less combing them with 38mm thick 140mm fans. Since everything is black it looks impressive in mock-up. There's plenty of room inside for the Sabertooth X79/ 1680 V2 and anything else I may choose to stuff into it. Since the case empty weighs 48 lbs I'm seriously considering putting wheels on the bottom rails to make moving it around easier. I want to make this an ultimate X79 rig that would have been a show stopper when everything inside it was new.