Tuesday, July 28th 2009
Radeon HD 4860 in the Works?
AMD released the industry's first 40 nm desktop GPU. The RV740 went on to make only one SKU, the Radeon HD 4770. The company filled its Radeon HD 4700 series almost overnight with two more SKUs positioned on either sides of the HD 4770, based on the 55 nm RV770/RV790 GPUs instead, due to stock shortages. These also impacted on the inventories of the HD 4770, which forced AMD to reposition the Radeon HD 4850 in the sub-$110 segment, creating a bit of a void between it and the roughly $150 HD 4870. If anyone of you is up for yet another ATI Radeon SKU, here's one coming your way: Radeon HD 4860.
The Radeon HD 4860 seems to have been already taped out, sampled, and pictured by sections of the Chinese media. At the heart of it is the RV790 GPU in a different configuration codenamed RV790GT. It has 640 stream processors instead of 800 on the HD 4850, except that it uses a 256-bit GDDR5 memory interface, and effectively higher clock speeds. The core is clocked at 700 MHz, and the memory at 750 MHz (3000 MHz effective). The PCB pictured shows the card to powered by a single 6-pin power connector. It is expected to be positioned in at the $130 price point, and in theory, competitive with NVIDIA's GeForce GTS 250.
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The Radeon HD 4860 seems to have been already taped out, sampled, and pictured by sections of the Chinese media. At the heart of it is the RV790 GPU in a different configuration codenamed RV790GT. It has 640 stream processors instead of 800 on the HD 4850, except that it uses a 256-bit GDDR5 memory interface, and effectively higher clock speeds. The core is clocked at 700 MHz, and the memory at 750 MHz (3000 MHz effective). The PCB pictured shows the card to powered by a single 6-pin power connector. It is expected to be positioned in at the $130 price point, and in theory, competitive with NVIDIA's GeForce GTS 250.
92 Comments on Radeon HD 4860 in the Works?
Let it just be said that, all this numbering and various performance that is often in non-linear proportion to those numbers is confusing, maybe not confusing you, or me, but confusing none-the-less, k? ;)
BTW, newtekie, the 4850 was put to $100 to fill in the 4770 gap, not as a counter as such. Also, don't take SNiiPE_DoGG lightly, he's no n00b, I am far more a noob than he IMO (don't believe me? check around on the net).
Again, I don't believe ATi purposely tried to be confusing with their numbering, I'm just saying that it is, while nVidia's rebrandings are actually purposely trying to make things less confusing. NVidia's naming scheme was all fucked up, and as I've said before they started stumbling with the launch of G92 and putting it in the 8800 series.
And while at first the HD4850 wasn't marked down to $100, the HD4770 was actually put out to counter the GTS250's lower price. And when supplies of the HD4770 dried up due to manufacturing dificulties, ATi had to do something else to counter the GTS250, so they lowered the price on the HD4850. It is all just a big competition to get the best price to performance ratio for the consumer. And lowering manufacturing costs is just one of the weapons.
And I highly doubt SNiiPE_DoGG is nearly as knowledgable as I am, but I could very well be wrong. I know he seems to not have a good grasp on how the business world works, regardless of how much knowledge he has in computers...
....trolls have the most tact & class in this world....
trust me you may be full of your post count here at TPU but the post counter is not a knowledge meter so shove your ego off to the side next time
Questioning your knowledge, and assuming you have none in business isn't calling you an idiot, don't get so defensive. You obviously don't have a grasp on how business and competition works, which is why I explained it to you. Anyone with even a shallow grasp on business wouldn't completely ignore competition in a situation like this. However, ignoring it did fit your argument in trying to make me look like I don't know what I am talking about...anyway...I'm sure that is just be being paranoid and getting defensive...
Being ignorant on a subject doesn't make you an idiot, and isn't a negative thing. My mechanic knows nothing about computers, other than how to use it to type up and invoice, but I would be hard press to call him an idiot. He's actually very intellegent, just like I don't know nearly as much about cars as he does, and I doubt he would call me an idiot either.
Don't get so defensive when someone questions your knowledge on a subject, when I said you have no clue, it wasn't meant as an insult, and I apologize if it came of as one.
And quite frankly, if you had even a basic grasp on business and competition, you would not have responded to my post where I laid out that competition was the basis for lowered prices by completely ignoring competition. So you either didn't have a grasp on what I was talking about, or you simply replied completely ignoring what I said with the purpose of either continuing the argument(trolling) or trying to make my argument and me look bad(attempting to insult me in an indirect way). So really, I wonder which one it was?:confused:
And who said anything about post count relating to knowledge? Having a higher post count, and being more knowledgeable is coincidental.
And remember, you started with the "you need to get a clue about business" shit, so don't even try saying I was the one who started insulting you. I was responding entirely to your statement when I said you are the one with no clue.
So either you do know what you are talking about, and posted purely to try and insult me and troll, or you don't have a clue how business and competition works. Which is it?
Since Nvidia renames it looks like ATi fans are in a twist about it, but when ATi do they very same thing, they're only "replicating" Nvidias "shady" practices to stay in the game.
they both do it, neither are evil, get over it.
in essence... Why so serious?
Wouldn't everyone get caught with their pants down if VIA and Matrox teamed up and set a new vantage record? :laugh:
Imagine, soon the gameplay graphics may be the same as the pre-rendered videos!:eek:
W00T that'll be good!:respect:
www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102866&Tpk=4860
Because a 4770 EATS a 9500GT for complete and utter disaster, even the 4670 destroys it.
The 9400GT lying around the performance slightly below the 4550.
www.newegg.com/Product/ComboBundleDetails.aspx?ItemList=Combo.308960