Tuesday, June 22nd 2010

New NVIDIA GF100 Board Surfaces, Suggests New High-End SKU

Sources in the hardware industry leaked some interesting pictures of a new, supposedly reference-design NVIDIA GF100 GPU graphics card PCB, watermarked by board partner Little Tiger. The pictures reveal a PCB that's similar to that of the GeForce GTX 480, but with a stronger VRM that makes use of better high-C surface-mount capacitors (completely doing away with cylindrical capacitors), and draws power from two 8-pin PCI-Express power inputs. The design can deliver up to 375W of power (that's not the board power we're talking about).

This also opens up speculation about what NVIDIA would do with this design. The most talked about theory as of now points to a new high-end SKU by NVIDIA based on the GF100, that enables all streaming multiprocessors (SMs) physically present on the GF100, taking the CUDA core count up to 512, and ROP count to 64. The most likely marketing name for this SKU is GeForce GTX 485. Apart from higher CUDA core and ROP count than that of the GTX 480, slightly higher clock-speeds for the GPU are also on the cards. The memory subsystem remains untouched, at 1536 MB of GDDR5 memory clocked at 924 MHz (effective 3.7 GHz), over a 384-bit wide memory interface. NVIDIA could release this SKU this fall.
Sources: Hardware-Infos, Expreview
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75 Comments on New NVIDIA GF100 Board Surfaces, Suggests New High-End SKU

#51
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
TAViXYeah, but why? Why do you need another power hungry monster to play console ports???? WHY?:banghead:
because crysis 2 is on the way, and its going to be a shite port like always? :D
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#52
Unregistered
Crytek declared already that Crysis 2 will have much lesser system requirements than the first one, so...
#53
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
TAViXCrytek declared already that Crysis 2 will have much lesser system requirements than the first one, so...
yeah but console ports always take 5x the power to run than the consoles have, due to shitty porting :P
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#54
mdsx1950
cadavecaThere is room for Cypress to grow, if the chips get better.
There's only room for a 5890, but there's no sign of it coming. ATi is probably finished with the 5XXX series. They will probably make the 6XXX series and keep it till nVidia release there flagship card (probably a card that performs at least about a 30% more than a HD5970) to compete with the 6XXX series. :pimp:
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#55
Mussels
Freshwater Moderator
mdsx1950There's only room for a 5890, but there's no sign of it coming. ATi is probably finished with the 5XXX series. They will probably make the 6XXX series and keep it till nVidia release there flagship card (probably a card that performs at least about a 30% more than a HD5970) to compete with the 6XXX series. :pimp:
they will definitely make a 5890, the question is whether or not its a die shrink, or just a redesign like the 4890 was.
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#56
mdsx1950
Musselsthey will definitely make a 5890, the question is whether or not its a die shrink, or just a redesign like the 4890 was.
Hopefully they do make it. I'd like to see a new powerful card from ATi. :)
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#57
GSquadron
mdsx1950Its coming H1 2011. Not Q4 2010.
The first cards of 6 series from Ati, are going to be: 6550, 6570 and 6670
I have read somewhere i really can't remember, that all these 3 cards, which will be the lower line of the series, will come out before the end of 2010 (in fact that was in a graph)
All other top of the line cards will come out in 2011
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#58
mdsx1950
Aleksander DishnicaThe first cards of 6 series from Ati, are going to be: 6550, 6570 and 6670
I have read somewhere i really can't remember, that all these 3 cards, which will be the lower line of the series, will come out before the end of 2010 (in fact that was in a graph)
All other top of the line cards will come out in 2011
The 6670 will probably be on par with the 5770.
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#59
Bjorn_Of_Iceland
Musselsbecause crysis 2 is on the way, and its going to be a shite port like always? :D
From what Ive read from CryEngine 3, no porting needs to be done. Map source and scripting are comming from one source, and can branch out to be compiled to either the PC, Xbox, or PS3.

Ultra off topic :D
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#60
LiveOrDie
this card will probably never be released to the public, and it will be watercooled.
im guessing no one has seen this yet?


Over at EXPreview, some photographs have surfaced of the shortened version of the GTX 480. This PCB design appears to be a complete redesign of the GTX 480 that we recently reviewed from Nvidia. The interesting thing is, these designs are beginning to surface before cards are even globally available through retailers. This fact brings us to believe that AIBs have been working on these designs for quite some time and that a redesign has long been in the cards.


Taiyanfa Custom GeForce GTX 480 Board - an ideal board for Folding@home?
Taiyanfa Custom GeForce GTX 480 Board - an ideal board for Folding@home and powerful HTPC systems?

This non-reference card appears to feature not only a shorter card length, but it also should have dual 6-pin power connectors as opposed to the current 8 + 6 pin design. In addition to that, there is a possibility that these cards could launch at the same clocks as the reference cards but possibly be hampered in overclocking by their dual 6 pin design. This design is drastically different from even the first custom PCB cards that we reported on around the time of the GTX 480 launch.

Backside of this custom PCB design reveals how short the GTX 480 design can be - this board is as short as GeForce GTS 250


Backside of this custom PCB design reveals how short the GTX 480 design can be - this board is as short as GeForce GTS 250

As we’ve stated before in our GTX 480 review, there will likely be a ton of custom PCB designs out there that could possibly help Nvidia stay in the game, although as it stands right now there still aren’t any GTX 480’s out there for sale yet and the card is indeed quite hot and power hungry. AIBs hope to remedy both of these issues with custom coolers and non-reference designs.

Taiyanfa's custom design PCB lowers the maximum power consumption to 225W [75W from PCIe x16, two 6-pin connectors count for additional 150W total], which is most probably achieved by lowering the GPU clock. However, we see a lot of potential in this design - for instance, populating six PCIe slots on All-PCIe boards such as ASUS P6T6/P6T7 or EVGA's X58 Classified 4-Way SLI for a GPGPU computing monster, single card design for HTPC chassis, or simply users that don't have 8+6-pin power - such as numerous workstation chassis or already assembled computers from Dell, HP and the like.

Source
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#61
Tartaros
hatPretty sure he meant dual core... as in two processor cores in one GPU.
I meant that, yes
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#62
HillBeast
Musselsyeah but console ports always take 5x the power to run than the consoles have, due to shitty porting :P
Like GTA-IV. Runs as badly on the PS3 as on my 3.6GHz Core i7 with 33% more threads and nearly 400% more transistors.
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#63
trt740
time to buy a new PSU this things gonna be a reactor.
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#64
pr0n Inspector
Musselsyeah but console ports always take 5x the power to run than the consoles have, due to shitty porting :P
like Rage?
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#65
Unregistered
or the new portal 2 :(












(but i hope its not turn to shitty port :cry:)
#66
pr0n Inspector
wahdangunor the new portal 2 :(












(but i hope its not turn to shitty port :cry:)
Gabe Newell made himself a c**t when he stepped on Sony's stage. Lesson: Don't talk trash about something then eat your own words.
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#67
Bjorn_Of_Iceland
wahdangunor the new portal 2 :(

(but i hope its not turn to shitty port :cry:)
It will be shitty port for the PS3 since its originally coded for the pc
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#70
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
combine your 2 posts into 1, just edit 1 and copy the contents then delete 1 of them.
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#71
theonedub
habe fidem
Now thats a 480 I would buy :D
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#72
overclocking101
that new gtx 480 above is pure sex imo. to hell with cylindrical caps! but one question, with the cooler holes the way they are, how does anyone expect toe vregs to get good cooling?? or are they the crappy kind tht dont need to be cooled by heatsinks?? imo those are the crapy kind even though most would agree, but as volterra has tough us actively cooled vrms can be a great thing
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#73
CDdude55
Crazy 4 TPU!!!
Aleksander DishnicaThe first cards of 6 series from Ati, are going to be: 6550, 6570 and 6670
I have read somewhere i really can't remember, that all these 3 cards, which will be the lower line of the series, will come out before the end of 2010 (in fact that was in a graph)
All other top of the line cards will come out in 2011
Generally they release there two top end cards first.(ie. 4850/4870 launched together, 5870/5850 launched together, GTX470/GTX 480 launched together) and then the lower end ones start coming in later. I don't see why they wouldn't do the game with the 6 series. Im expecting the 6870 and 6850 to be the first launched.
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#74
eidairaman1
The Exiled Airman
hopefully it runs cooler than the initial 480, now we just need a chip.
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#75
OnBoard
overclocking101but one question, with the cooler holes the way they are, how does anyone expect toe vregs to get good cooling?? or are they the crappy kind tht dont need to be cooled by heatsinks?? imo those are the crapy kind even though most would agree, but as volterra has tough us actively cooled vrms can be a great thing
They look like low RDS(on) mosfets, stuff that gigabyte uses. Smaller and cooler.
www.gigabyte.com/MicroSite/95/components.html#com5
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