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NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50 Series "Blackwell" On Course for Q4-2024

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NVIDIA's next-generation GeForce RTX 50-series "Blackwell" gaming GPUs are on course to debut toward the end of 2024, with a Moore's Law is Dead report pinning the launch to Q4-2024. This is an easy to predict timeline, as every GeForce RTX generation tends to have 2 years of market presence, with the RTX 40-series "Ada" having debuted in Q4-2022 (October 2022), and the RTX 30-series "Ampere" in late-Q3 2020 (September 2020).

NVIDIA's roadmap for 2024 sees a Q1 debut of the RTX 40-series SUPER, with three high-end SKUs refreshing the upper half of the RTX 40-series. The MLID report goes on to speculate that the generational performance uplift of "Blackwell" over "Ada" will be smaller still, than that of "Ada" over "Ampere." With AI HPC GPUs outselling gaming GPUs by 5:1 in terms of revenues, and AMD rumored to be retreating from the enthusiast segment for its next-gen RDNA4, we get to see why this is the case.
Source: Moore's Law is Dead (YouTube)

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126 Comments on NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50 Series "Blackwell" On Course for Q4-2024

#1
matar
No competition = higher prices over already high prices
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#2
Space Lynx
Astronaut
Not going to lie, if I was rich a 2nm Arrow Lake and RTX 5090 would be epic as fuck combo. lol

Considering the price I paid for my current rig though, $200 cpu and $110 mobo, and $705 gpu on sale... meh. I am happy where I am.

If someone hires me with a decent salary next year though I might considering selling my current rig and getting my dream Ultima 5090 and 2nm Arrow Lake combo in Winter 2024.
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#3
EdInk
Now I can afford the previous generation
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#4
Nordic
Am I just getting older or do these GPU releases seem to come faster?
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#5
Onasi
IF the report is in any way true (and that is a major “if” considering its source) and the uplift in performance won’t be significant it seems we are going to experience Skylake era stagnation, but in GPUs now. Just as well TBH, the endless rat race to better graphics is getting tiresome. I might finally bite the bullet and grab a 4070 (or a 4070 Super if it turns out to be a decent SKU) and just forget about upgrading the gpu for years. Not like I have any desire to play latest AAA titles since they bore me. Hell, with my gaming preferences these days I might even get away with a 4060 non-Ti to be honest.
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#6
AusWolf
The MLID report goes on to speculate that the generational performance uplift of "Blackwell" over "Ada" will be smaller still, than that of "Ada" over "Ampere."
So where's the "ray tracing is the future" now? Is it still gonna be the future in 2025?
NordicAm I just getting older or do these GPU releases seem to come faster?
They seem to be coming slower to me. I remember when a new GPU generation was released every year with new DirectX version support and twice the performance, that you had to upgrade to if you wanted to play the latest games. Now, we're getting marginal uplifts every two years, totally not worth upgrading.
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#7
Dahita
Doing phenomenal with my 5950x + 2070 Super. Still getting 100+ FPS on POE, not playing much else although I've never had FPS problems (Metro Exodus +100 fps maxed out).

Can wait for 2025 for sure.
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#8
Onasi
AusWolfSo where's the "ray tracing is the future" now? Is it still gonna be the future in 2025?
It is still the future in the absolute perspective, at some point rasterization will just straight up run out of potential improvements and rendering cheats that can be applied. However, we aren’t talking 2025 or even 2030. People who fell for NVidias hype and genuinely thought that GPUs that are capable of full RTRT rendering with the level of fidelity expected from modern high budget titles are just around the corner were silly. We are going to have a decade at least of the hybrid approach where RT is used for certain effects only at a steadily decreasing cost (hopefully). And this isn’t even talking about full fat Path Tracing which is significantly more expensive.
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#9
N/A
not happy if that means 5070 much later in Q2 2025
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#10
Porthos
My 3080 still going strong for 1600p
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#11
Dirt Chip
Hoping for a 1080ti proper successor.
All it takes is a 4080 pref level with 4090 mem GB, 4070 W and 4070ti price.

But as presumably only NV is left on the table, well...
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#12
Fourstaff
Based on current demand and foundry prices I will not be surprised if 5 series comes in with another massive price hike.
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#13
john_
I would expect, 5090 offering +30% performance over 4090, costing $2200, at 600W typical and 5060 ti at $500 with 8GB of VRAM, and performance equal to a 4060 Ti, but with DLSS 4.0 and a new type of ray reconstruction, both offered only to 5000 series..
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#14
Onasi
Dirt ChipHoping for a 1080ti proper successor.
All it takes is a 4080 pref level with 4090 mem GB, 4070 W and 4070ti price.
I too enjoy science fiction.
I am not sure if that would be something possible even if the market wasn’t in shambles, let alone in the current conditions.
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#15
DBGT
I thought Q1/Q2 2025
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#16
arbiter
using gtx1080, struggle bus on lots of games without turning down settings a ton while fans sounding like a jet cause 100% load ;/
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#17
Readlight
Separate AI from games.
I can't catch inflation. Double price's higher in 10 years.
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#18
Dristun
>Moore's Law
Nope. Next rumour!
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#19
Hyderz
I think they gonna announce the 5090 since the 70 series and 80 series got super and those might come later
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#20
Daven
Space LynxNot going to lie, if I was rich a 2nm Arrow Lake and RTX 5090 would be epic as fuck combo. lol

Considering the price I paid for my current rig though, $200 cpu and $110 mobo, and $705 gpu on sale... meh. I am happy where I am.

If someone hires me with a decent salary next year though I might considering selling my current rig and getting my dream Ultima 5090 and 2nm Arrow Lake combo in Winter 2024.
Except that Arrow Lake will have slower CPU performance than Raptor Lake.
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#21
xSneak
Looking forward to it. Hopefully we can get hardware decode/encode of 12k videos and better ray tracing performance.
The advancement we have seen from the 1080 Ti to the 4090 has been legendary, much like the jump from 2d to 3d.
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#22
cosminmcm
NordicAm I just getting older or do these GPU releases seem to come faster?
To me it's the other way around, it's like they never come. If you upgrade every 2 generations, you have a looong time to wait.
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#23
BorisDG
DBGTI thought Q1/Q2 2025
March/April 2025 I'd say. Q4 2024 is very unlikely.
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#24
AusWolf
xSneakLooking forward to it. Hopefully we can get (...) and better ray tracing performance.
This!

Rasterization has come to a point where I don't care about it anymore. Whether my game runs at 200 or 300 FPS doesn't make a sliver of difference. Losing less performance when RT is enabled would be nice.
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#25
gffermari
Dirt ChipHoping for a 1080ti proper successor.
All it takes is a 4080 pref level with 4090 mem GB, 4070 W and 4070ti price.
Easy for the greens with a few adjustments.... But there's a problem.

5070 = 4080 perf. level + 16GB VRAM + 4070ish Watts + 4070Ti price.

5070 = .....4070Ti price.
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