Sunday, May 5th 2024

NVIDIA to Only Launch the Flagship GeForce RTX 5090 in 2024, Rest of the Series in 2025

NVIDIA debuted the current RTX 40-series "Ada" in 2022, which means the company is expected to debut its next-generation in some shape or form in 2024, having refreshed it earlier this year. We've known for a while that the new GeForce RTX 50-series "Blackwell" could see a 2024 debut, which is going by past trends, would be the top-two or three SKUs, followed by a ramp up in the following year, but we're now learning through a new Moore's Law is Dead leak that the launch could be limited to just the flagship product, the GeForce RTX 5090, or the SKU that succeeds the RTX 4090.

Even a launch limited to the flagship RTX 5090 would give us a fair idea of the new "Blackwell" architecture, its various new features, and how the other SKUs in the lineup could perform at their relative price-points, because the launch could at least include a technical overview of the architecture. NVIDIA "Blackwell" is expected to introduce another generational performance leap over the current lineup. The reasons NVIDIA is going with a more conservative launch of GeForce "Blackwell" could be to allow the market to digest inventories of the current RTX 40-series; and to accord higher priority to AI GPUs based on the architecture, which fetch the company much higher margins.
Source: Moore's Law is Dead (YouTube)
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154 Comments on NVIDIA to Only Launch the Flagship GeForce RTX 5090 in 2024, Rest of the Series in 2025

#1
freeagent
I said I would get a 5090, and I will.. after I know for sure it wont try to self emolate.
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#2
usiname
The way you are meant to be milked
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#3
nguyen
I still gonna need a 42in 4K 240hz OLED screen to fully utilize the 5090 :rolleyes:
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#4
Space Lynx
Astronaut
freeagentI said I would get a 5090, and I will.. after I know for sure it wont try to self emolate.
yep, I kind of regret not buying irl friends 4090 for 1200 when he offered it to me, but I know myself, and I would have been having OCD every fucking time I played a demanding game on it... that's no way to live. as recent as last week there were articles talking about this is still a problem with 4090 cards.
nguyenI still gonna need a 42in 4K 240hz OLED screen to fully utilize the 5090 :rolleyes:
nah, I doubt the 5090 can even push cyberpunk 2077 ultra everything at 240fps 240hz 3440x1440 OLED, if it can I will be surprised.

that being said I still want one, but I doubt if I will get one. pretty happy with my current setup, and my massive backlog which is easy to run.
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#5
nguyen
Space Lynxnah, I doubt the 5090 can even push cyberpunk 2077 ultra everything at 240fps 240hz 3440x1440 OLED, if it can I will be surprised.

that being said I still want one, but I doubt if I will get one. pretty happy with my current setup, and my massive backlog which is easy to run.
I'm getting 80-100FPS @ 4K Pathtraced + DLSS Balanced + Frame Generation in both Cyberpunk 2077 and Alan Wake 2, if 5090 can get 2x the RT performance of 4090 then it would sit comfortable in the 160-200FPS range.

I'm interested in trying Path Tracing in Dragon Dogma 2 and RE4 Remake too.
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#6
N/A
Another Reticle limit 858mm2 GPU, 2080 Ti again. Only this time 600-720W.
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#7
Minus Infinity
N/AAnother Reticle limit 858mm2 GPU, 2080 Ti again this time 600-720W.
Well given it's still 4nm, this time 4NPP, power levels won't drop and it will have a lot more cuda cores and tensor cores no doubt. Efficiency may be better but will be swamped by performance gains.

AMD won't really suffer not having high end this year. Just knock the RDNA 4 N48 out of the park and price it right and it outsell 5090 1000:1
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#8
Space Lynx
Astronaut
Minus InfinityWell given it's still 4nm, this time 4NPP, power levels won't drop and it will have a lot more cuda cores and tensor cores no doubt. Efficiency may be better but will be swamped by performance gains.

AMD won't really suffer not having high end this year. Just knock the RDNA 4 N48 out of the park and price it right and it outsell 5090 1000:1
nah most people want DLSS these days I think, that being said I am really happy with my shiny new 7900 XT. latest revision model too, it runs ice cold. Witcher 3 ultra 165 hz 165 fps ultra 1440p - 50 Celsius core and 62 hotspot, my last 7900 XT ran about 15 Celsius hotter in the same test. I love this beast, was 1/3 the cost of the 4090. Ray tracing doesn't interest me, so I am happy to skip rdna4 and 5090. this is a solid rig. :) I probably won't upgrade until 6090 rtx and 11800x3d. and keep same Mobo/ram, etc
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#9
Neo_Morpheus
Lets see, limited amount of gpus built will go to the following:

youtube influencers, whom then will be obligated to display the 5090 all the time or at the very least mention the 5090 on unrelated videos.

The so called tech reviewers whom i call bribed influencers, which will proceed to shove that 5090 down our throats as a must buy without saying that theirs were free.

Whatever its left, will go to scalpers, whom then will proceed to milk dry the rabid cult members that believed the hype pushed by the previous groups of influencers.
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#10
Crackong
Let me guess

500W
50% more RT core
5% more CUDA
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#11
Solaris17
Super Dainty Moderator
Neo_MorpheusLets see, limited amount of gpus built will go to the following:

youtube influencers, whom then will be obligated to display the 5090 or at the very least mention the 5090 on u related videos.

The so called tech reviewers whom i called bribed influencers, which will proceed to shove that 5090 down our throats as a must buy without saying that theirs are free.

Whatever its left, will go to scalpers, whom then will proceed to milk dry the rabid cult members that believed the hype pushed by the previous groups of influencers.
I mean I was just gonna get mine off of newegg.
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#12
64K
I figured on the 5090 end of year but I was also expecting the 5080. I guess the rumors are true that the existing supply of 4080s is still too high. Just checked Amazon US and the so called $1,000 MSRP 4080 Supers are almost all still being priced well above that.
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#13
Space Lynx
Astronaut
Neo_MorpheusLets see, limited amount of gpus built will go to the following:

youtube influencers, whom then will be obligated to display the 5090 or at the very least mention the 5090 on u related videos.

The so called tech reviewers whom i called bribed influencers, which will proceed to shove that 5090 down our throats as a must buy without saying that theirs are free.

Whatever its left, will go to scalpers, whom then will proceed to milk dry the rabid cult members that believed the hype pushed by the previous groups of influencers.
I do agree with you that the average Joe probably shouldn't even try to get one until Spring 2025, stock will be low, they already said that previously. Another reason I could care less.
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Solaris17
Super Dainty Moderator
64KI figured on the 5090 end of year but I was also expecting the 5080. I guess the rumors are true that the existing supply of 4080s is still too high. Just checked Amazon US and the so called $1,000 MSRP 4080 Supers are almost all still being priced well above that.
way too overpriced and not even remotely worth buying at that. GPU prices are so bad it's crazy, what a real shame.

Still plenty excited for what nvidia, amd and intel make this generation. From technological perspectives anyway. I try not to let price and availability tint what I think of the actual math that's happening on the silicon; deciding if it's worth it always comes later.
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#15
nguyen
Solaris17way too overpriced and not even remotely worth buying at that. GPU prices are so bad its crazy, what a real shame.

Still plenty excited for what nvidia, amd and intel make this generation. From technelogical perspectives anyway. I try not to let price and availibility tint what I think of the actual math thats happening on the silicon; deciding if its worth it always comes later.
I would love to see how technologies progress, rather than seeing company keep selling the same thing over and over again with slightly lower pricing (looking at Intel)
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#16
zo0lykas
CrackongLet me guess

500W
50% more RT core
5% more CUDA
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#17
Guwapo77
I won't be able to get one till 2025 anyways, I want a 5090 AIO version. I got a little wait ahead of me.
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#18
Chaitanya
Wont be easy to purchase nor it will be any cheaper than $2000.
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#19
64K
ChaitanyaWont be easy to purchase nor it will be any cheaper than $2000.
Maybe even more at first if they are scarce. Retailers have no qualms about gouging prices any chance they get.
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#20
john_
I am expecting RTX 4090 to drop to $1500 and RTX 5090 introduce a new price point at $2000-$2200.
Good times ahead :p
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#21
Space Lynx
Astronaut
ChaitanyaWont be easy to purchase nor it will be any cheaper than $2000.
I am thinking they will do $1899 or $1999 price yep. 100%

those numbers are impressive though I won't lie. combine that with frame gen and DLSS, that card will easily last 10 years imo.

I am happy with 7900 XT though, so eh. I honestly don't blame Nvidia though, supply and demand, people just need to learn patience.
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#22
john_
Space Lynxnah, I doubt the 5090 can even push cyberpunk 2077 ultra everything at 240fps 240hz 3440x1440 OLED, if it can I will be surprised.
DLSS 4 with second gen FG upscaled from 720p to 4K with no visual quality degradation*.

*even if there is, tech press will convince us that DLSS 4 upscaling from 720p with FG is even better than native anyway.
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#23
Space Lynx
Astronaut
john_DLSS 4 with second gen FG upscaled from 720p to 4K with no visual quality degradation*.

*even if there is, tech press will convince us that DLSS 4 upscaling from 720p with FG is even better than native anyway.
aye, I don't care either way at the moment. I just do everything old school still whenever I can... native resolution only, no scaling, MSAA x4 and the other one x8 or x16. and then like a mixture of medium/high settings, unless its an old game and easy to achieve max fps for my monitor, then ultra.

this is how I have always done things and I am probably not going to change, at least not until like its forced upon me, like it is in some games, but in those games I'm like meh it is what it is.
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#24
john_
Solaris17way too overpriced and not even remotely worth buying at that. GPU prices are so bad it's crazy, what a real shame.
Well, people who pay for the top model (I see you have the 4090 and I am guessing you will be one of the first to go for a 5090), usually sell their current card months before the new one becomes available. So, I am guessing in the following months many will start putting ads for their 4090's at prices over $1400, sell them (easily thanks to the AI craze), stay with a mid range GPU until 5090 comes out and enjoy an upgrade (plus full new warranty) for less than $1000.
While GPUs are overpriced, one of the advantages of going RTX, is that the prices stay more or less stable over the years.
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#25
Dragokar
Space Lynxnah most people want DLSS these days I think, that being said I am really happy with my shiny new 7900 XT. latest revision model too, it runs ice cold. Witcher 3 ultra 165 hz 165 fps ultra 1440p - 50 Celsius core and 62 hotspot, my last 7900 XT ran about 15 Celsius hotter in the same test. I love this beast, was 1/3 the cost of the 4090. Ray tracing doesn't interest me, so I am happy to skip rdna4 and 5090. this is a solid rig. :) I probably won't upgrade until 6090 rtx and 11800x3d. and keep same Mobo/ram, etc
Beyond the forums and just with simple gamers, most of them don't even know what upscaling is, no matter if it's called DLSS FG, FSR FG or XEsomething. They build or buy the pc and it just works the way they build it. Most of them never ever even open any driver panel. Thats "just us".
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