ymdhisThat's no excuse for their cards to come with 50% less VRAM.

Hyderzhow much does it help... hope we can get some sort of benchmark going on

Macro DeviceNot much. There's very little NV can do to make their 8 GB cards magically outperform hypothetical 10 GB counterparts by driver and feature optimisations. Video games and tools are written by 3rd parties who more often than not disregard the whole NV advancements as a thing.

Of course an NV GPU with X GB VRAM will run out of VRAM later than an AMD GPU with the exact same amount because of better overflow handling and overall superior VRAM management (+ higher bandwidth if we compare 9070 VS 5070; 9060 VS 5060) but the difference isn't massive, 10 percent at the very most if we only look at the worst case scenarios for AMD.

3 gigabyte VRAM modules were and still are a must for 5060 series. 12 GB woulda made all the sense in the world... but alas.

Macro DeviceOf course an NV GPU with X GB VRAM will run out of VRAM later than an AMD GPU with the exact same amount because of better overflow handling and overall superior VRAM management (+ higher bandwidth if we compare 9070 VS 5070; 9060 VS 5060) but the difference isn't massive, 10 percent at the very most if we only look at the worst case scenarios for AMD.

Macro Device3 gigabyte VRAM modules were and still are a must for 5060 series. 12 GB woulda made all the sense in the world... but alas.

_roman_That article sounds like more compression. I also experimented with file system compression. 20 % is quite usual rate for low cpu file compression.

OnasiDLSS Transformers is literally the first time that I would say NV has an undisputed “killer feature”. It’s genuinely amazing tech, even Performance presets look very good with it. It’s finally arrived at the “basically free performance” level DLSS was touted as for all these years and it’s nice that NV keeps optimizing it.

8tyoneI might be wrong but doesnt DLSS Trasformer also lowers performance by ~10% ?

Dr. DroNowhere near 10%, even on older GPUs. It does take longer than the CNN model to infer, but worst case scenario you're looking at 3-5% if it's on a low end Ampere or Turing GPU with low tensor performance. TPU's showcase of the technology found 3% on the RTX 3060. Should be nearly indistinguishable (0-2%) on higher end previous generation GPUs or on Ada and Blackwell architecture ones, even on lower end models.

SithaerYeah it was already more than fine on my previous 3060 Ti, I did notice a slight performance hit but imo it was still worth it over CNN Quality heck Transformer Balanced looks about the same if not better than CNN Quality at least in the games where I've tested them.

Dr. DroYup, best case scenario IMO, other than people looking for max image quality by using DLAA with preset K, would be laptops with limited VRAM (4-6 GB), transformer model is enough of a visual upgrade that you can safely drop from Balanced to Performance, gain fps or lower power consumption while retaining a good image quality. That's where it'll win the most IMO, and I expect Switch 2 games will use this tech a lot.

SithaerDLAA was a bit too much for my 3060 Ti especially with preset K but that does indeed looks the best like its a clear upgrade over native so for anyone who can handle that its the way to go.
If that tech is in a handheld then that should be really nice for sure.
Currently I can do PT Cyberpunk with DLSS Transformer Balanced+Ray reconstruction with a mix of high and ultra settings on top and that way its a solid 60+ FPS which is a nice base for framegen if I want to use it and the game plays and looks really damn good. 'Most likely how I'm gonna replay the game with Phantom Liberty once I get to it :laugh: '

arbiterGo watch videos on YT of AMD vs nvidia side by side. You will notice nvidia cards usually use around 10% less vram usage over all. So to say can do very little well they can.

THANATOSI know RX 9060XT has PCIe 5.0 x16 while 5060(Ti) has only PCIe 5.0 x8

THANATOSIn desktop you still have the option of buying the 16GB version at least with 5060Ti.

Dr. DroYour new 5070 will do great there, that's for sure. And you can always enjoy most games with DLAA preset K included with it, as long as you can replace the DLSS DLL, the new DLLs will work on any game that supports DLSS 3. Only one I'm aware of that you cannot upgrade the DLL is Honkai Star Rail because it'll fail the file integrity check rendering the game unplayable. It has DLSS 3.7.10 though, so it still looks pretty good. Unlikely miHoYo will keep it updated, though, considered they're as lazy as it gets with the PC versions of their games. I love their games, but their PC versions clearly aren't their highest priority.