Monday, July 15th 2024
NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50 Series "Blackwell" TDPs Leaked, All Powered by 16-Pin Connector
In the preparation season for NVIDIA's upcoming GeForce RTX 50 Series of GPUs, codenamed "Blackwell," one power supply manufacturer accidentally leaked the power configurations of all SKUs. Seasonic operates its power supply wattage calculator, allowing users to configure their systems online and get power supply recommendations. This means that the system often gets filled with CPU/GPU SKUs to accommodate the massive variety of components. This time we have the upcoming GeForce RTX 50 series, with RTX 5050 all the way up to the top RTX 5090 GPU. Starting with the GeForce RTX 5050, this SKU is expected to carry a 100 W TDP. Its bigger brother, the RTX 5060, bumps the TDP to 170 W, 55 W higher than the previous generation "Ada Lovelace" RTX 4060.
The GeForce RTX 5070, with a 220 W TDP, is in the middle of the stack, featuring a 20 W increase over the Ada generation. For higher-end SKUs, NVIDIA prepared the GeForce RTX 5080 and RTX 5090, with 350 W and 500 W TDP, respectively. This also represents a jump in TDP from Ada generation with an increase of 30 W for RTX 5080 and 50 W for RTX 5090. Interestingly, this time NVIDIA wants to unify the power connection system of the entire family with a 16-pin 12V-2x6 connector but with an updated PCIe 6.0 CEM specification. The increase in power requirements for the "Blackwell" generation across the SKUs is interesting, and we are eager to see if the performance gains are enough to balance efficiency.
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The GeForce RTX 5070, with a 220 W TDP, is in the middle of the stack, featuring a 20 W increase over the Ada generation. For higher-end SKUs, NVIDIA prepared the GeForce RTX 5080 and RTX 5090, with 350 W and 500 W TDP, respectively. This also represents a jump in TDP from Ada generation with an increase of 30 W for RTX 5080 and 50 W for RTX 5090. Interestingly, this time NVIDIA wants to unify the power connection system of the entire family with a 16-pin 12V-2x6 connector but with an updated PCIe 6.0 CEM specification. The increase in power requirements for the "Blackwell" generation across the SKUs is interesting, and we are eager to see if the performance gains are enough to balance efficiency.
168 Comments on NVIDIA GeForce RTX 50 Series "Blackwell" TDPs Leaked, All Powered by 16-Pin Connector
Looks like Intel is setting precedent:
It's okay to engineer products that will fail inside warranty.
5090 - top
5080 - up to 10% faster than 4090
5070 - 5% slower 4080/S ?
5060 - in between 4070 and 4070 super?
5050 - 1-3% faster than 4060?
We will see when the cards are released but that is my guess.
I, as always, look forward to the next generation of GPUs and I hope the pricing for the Blackwells makes more sense than Ada did but we'll see.
The excuse is A.I demand, but in reality, people are voting with their wallets. They are artificially keeping the prices inflated, and it's going to blow up in their faces.
Gamers also understood, that the whole product stack of the 4000 series, except for the 4090, was bumped up a tier masquerading as something they are not, paying more, while frame gen had to do the lifting.
Gamers in general aren't as stupid as most think. nVidia will have to change strategies. I like their cards more than AMD, but only because older games are less of a hassle to configure to work.
AMD is starting to look mighty fine, especially if they can pull off a 7900GRE next launch at the price it's at now.
I speak in general to be honest but I agree. If there is a performance increase it will be at the expense of power but still the increase is not going to be substantial. The increase in price. Oh, that is a different story and this will be staggering. It's just my guess. It is what I think will happen.
Spikes for power delivery are normal, the short 10-20ms spikes that sites including TPU are measuring these days normally do go a good 30% over average for a decent design. And that is OK.It is simply about consolidation of standards. 6-pin is more than enough for a low-power card. It is not enough for midrange where you would need an 8-pin. And higher end needs 2-3 of those...
Yes, the 16-pin has all the sense stuff and there is - or should be - limits based on what PSU can provide but that is still a more elegant solution.
And they will provide proof - all the extra "Gaming" revenue that is pushing Gaming to record heights is coming from orders for AI related acceleration now.
So the tiers, pricing, everything is open to total change now that the market's changed.
Personally, I'd much rather see gaming and AI take separate paths, but I don't think it's gonna happen.It seems more like a diversification of standards to me. If you want AMD, your old PSU with 8-pin power is fine, but if you want Nvidia, even a low power model, you should get a new PSU, or use an ugly adapter. Why? What's elegant about this?
My guess is the 5090 will be 50 to 60% faster than the 4090 but even more expensive with RT being a bit higher. The 5080 matching the 4090 or slightly exceeding it 10% ish for 1200 usd does anything lower really matter not to me lol.
Oh maybe a 700-800 usd 4080 matching 5070 with 12GB of vram lmao cuz nvidia gonna be nvidia with their fanbois defending it drunk on that green Kool-aid.