ty vm u rock save my pennies for bd tyvm

Wile EFaster = better, period. I don't believe in "good enough".

Says the man who rocked a 4870x2 well into the 6xxx series before upgrading........because it was good enough. ;)

TheMailMan78Says the man who rocked a 4870x2 well into the 6xxx series before upgrading........because it was good enough. ;)

No, it was because the upgrade options weren't good enough until the latest series. Just like I won't be buying SB-E until 8 cores release.

ok tyvm im off to bed tyvm for info

Awesome

Well I spoke to MSI last week and was told that their current boards will not support BD as they claimed AMD made some hard changes, so it would be safe to assume the other boards wont either.

On another note the MSI rep did also tell me that the 990 chipset is fresh out luck.

springs113Well I spoke to MSI last week and was told that their current boards will not support BD as they claimed AMD made some hard changes, so it would be safe to assume the other boards wont either.

On another note the MSI rep did also tell me that the 990 chipset is fresh out luck.

Out of luck for what?

990 xa wont fit a bd cpu ????????????????????

if not what will take a bd cpu?

martthefart990 xa wont fit a bd cpu ????????????????????

Yes, it will.

springs113Well I spoke to MSI last week and was told that their current boards will not support BD as they claimed AMD made some hard changes, so it would be safe to assume the other boards wont either.

On another note the MSI rep did also tell me that the 990 chipset is fresh out luck.

Their current top-end 890FX boards, I'm assuming. the -65s and -80s? The ones that they claimed a few months ago would be AM3+ ready with a BIOS update?

The 990FX boards are compatible, even if the chipset is essentially the same as the 890FX.

The 990 chipset and boards are for BD (AM3+) and AM3 Phenom IIs, but after that, the next AMD cpu will require a new socket and chipset. That's probably what the MSI person meant. Ehh? Ehh?

Be clear and concise.

Performance looks acceptable, what about power consumption? If BD is getting those numbers but uses 20% more power it, it's not really something to write home about.

Damn_SmoothNobody knows for sure. Rumors say October.



Yes.

i pre-ordered mine from ShopBLT (which appears to have the highest resellerratings i've personally ever seen)

ereki pre-ordered mine from ShopBLT (which appears to have the highest resellerratings i've personally ever seen)

What is their estimate for delivery?

Sorry guys was putting together my new rig, will put it up in the case mod to show

@Dan, I meant the 990fx atleast from MSI, the rep I spoke to stated that AMD did some hard coded changes.

@Inceptor I know what I said to the guy and exactly what was stated to me...I was torn in between BD n Ivy so I wanted to see if they could give some sort of hint towards BDs release. I really wanted to go AMD but at the same time I really wanted to upgrade as I was getting tired of slowdowns on my htpc. anyways I wanted to build now so I couldn't wait any longer as the rep was telling me that the new AMD boards would be late Jan to Mid Feb...so I went i5 2500k route.

I think it was Intels time anyways...my last 2 builds was AMD and before that the previous 2 was Intel, so sticking to that trend I guess my next is Intel too.

thoroughbred rev a, barton 2500, venice 3000, e6420, q6600, p2 720be, p2 955be now sandy 2500k the ones in bold I still have running. I think I'm gonna put the 720 as my htpc and retire the q6600 anyways back to topic...

I just hope BD is competitive cause I will jump ship if Ivy aint that great.

I for one decided not to go BD for one reason alone, no PCI-E 3.0.. I really want something futureproof (SB-E), before 2012, since I'm primarily a gamer, and primarily switch/upgrade GPU's, and I think PCI-E 3.0 will last just as long or long enough compared to 2.0, oh reason for going SB-E is cause I can't stand the fact of waiting till Ivy...netbook is getting tiresome

JegergrimI for one decided not to go BD for one reason alone, no PCI-E 3.0.. I really want something futureproof (SB-E), before 2012, since I'm primarily a gamer, and primarily switch/upgrade GPU's, and I think PCI-E 3.0 will last just as long or long enough compared to 2.0, oh reason for going SB-E is cause I can't stand the fact of waiting till Ivy...netbook is getting tiresome

If I recall, SB-E is only launching with 8x/8x PCI-E 3.0, which is the exact same thing as 16x/16x PCI-E 2.1, so that point is rather moot. I expect PCI-E 3.0 might be just like USB 3.0 and have very very slow adoption.

xenocideIf I recall, SB-E is only launching with 8x/8x PCI-E 3.0, which is the exact same thing as 16x/16x PCI-E 2.1, so that point is rather moot. I expect PCI-E 3.0 might be just like USB 3.0 and have very very slow adoption.

Aye, but I never run SLI/Crossfire, so the 16x pci-e 3.0 should do me fine

JegergrimI for one decided not to go BD for one reason alone, no PCI-E 3.0.. I really want something futureproof (SB-E), before 2012, since I'm primarily a gamer, and primarily switch/upgrade GPU's, and I think PCI-E 3.0 will last just as long or long enough compared to 2.0, oh reason for going SB-E is cause I can't stand the fact of waiting till Ivy...netbook is getting tiresome

Generation: Year: Bit Rate: Interconnect Bandwidth Max-Bandwidth
Bandwidth (Per Lane) (16 Lanes)
PCI-Express 1.1 -(2000) -2.5GT/sec 2GB/sec 250MB/sec 8GB/sec
PCI-Express 2.0 -(2007) -5GT/sec 4GB/sec 500MB/sec 16GB/sec
PCI-Express 3.0 -(2012) -8GT/sec 8GB/sec 1GB/sec 32GB/sec
PCI-Express 4.0 -(2016) -16GT/sec 16GB/sec 2GB/sec 64GB/sec

I think it's a safe bet to upgrade to Bulldozer and a nice Socket AM3+ motherboard. Perhaps in about 3 years time the PCI-E 3.0 spec will be fully utilized, until then I don't see a need to wait for a solid Bulldozer upgrade....Just like USB 3.0, it's been out for a while now, but I am still using USB 2.0 and don't plan on using 3.0 for at least another year or 2.. :D

PCI-e 2.1 is not the same as 3.0, 8x/8x in 3.0 is double the rate so it would be considered 16x/16x

but that still means a single GPU would run 16x on a PCI-E 3.0 am I correct? Just limited with sli and cf

Damn_SmoothSo Intel is fine with their mainstream CPU's outperforming their high end line?

My crystal ball is broken, so I won't be taking any bets. Thanks for the offer though.

Yes when the highend is last generation. Thie new generation highend will out perform the mainstream and last generation highend.

Jegergrimbut that still means a single GPU would run 16x on a PCI-E 3.0 am I correct? Just limited with sli and cf

It logically should mean that, but I'm not certain that's the case. You also have to consider that there are literally 0 cards on the market that support 3.0 and even need that kind of bandwidth.

Given that they have already shipped processors to retailers and all we see are cherry picked slides then I'd assume the worst.

ensabrenoirYes when the highend is last generation. Thie new generation highend will out perform the mainstream and last generation highend.

What's your point? Of course the next generation of a family will out-perform the previous generation.

xenocideIt logically should mean that, but I'm not certain that's the case. You also have to consider that there are literally 0 cards on the market that support 3.0 and even need that kind of bandwidth.

so, i guess we should have stuck with ISA then... cause when that was the standard, nothing was ever made to go faster.