1Kurgan1Serious, any half way decent gaming mouse allows you to map key binds off your keyboard. Which should be good for 99% of people, that 1% is mailman who remaps his movement keys to his mouse then makes WASD something else. If you want your knife on your mouse, simple enough for me, open my RAT 7 profile, set any of my mouse buttons to hit key F when pressed. Like I said, buy a better mouse (granted wasn't to you). Example below

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Now my thumb scroll will knife, if I want it to.



I like that idea. But problem is, sometimes fixing one bug causes another. And some of these bugs we have found might have only been under the stress from all of the players. So if they go fixing a ton of bugs, it could just open a new can of worms.

Shouldn't have to remap via mouse software. It should be a game feature, period.

Wile EShouldn't have to remap via mouse software. It should be a game feature, period.

maybe its all been fixed already in the new build. after all we are still running a bugged out version of the beta according to a lot of sources

its not just mouse functions that don't bind...
i have a MX518 Gaming mouse, its tried and tested to be a GREAT mouse for gaming im not buying new hardware because it is a flawless gaming mouse and no other mouse is as comfortable on the hand.

joysticks do not bind either, and anyone who was able to get into Caspian Border map knows how retarded that is.

to this day they STILL do not have proper joystick support in BC2, when twisting left, the chopper still twists right for most joysticks out there.

they need proper support for all devices and full use of them. i shouldn't have to program my mouse to MB5 = f, i should just use MB5 as knife.

and the joystick thing was a joke in beta. i truley hope they get it fixed upon release cause in BC2 is wasn't that big a deal but BF3 is HUGE maps with lots of air combat and if i can't get my stick working then that is utter BS on EA's part.

Problem: Can't bind mouse buttons

DICE apologist's solution: Buy new mouse.


Brilliant.

Problem: BF3 BETA does/don't _____________, __________________, _____________ .

Solution: :cry: some more, Learn definition of BETA, then wait for the actual game to come out.

yes but in a BETA controls should atleast work. that is ALPHA material to fix, and they didn't then either

pc mouse controls not working in a console port?

for what its worth i have no trouble playing on a 360 pad :thumb:

BF3 is not a console port. BC2 was, BF3 was developed on and for PC then ported to consoles, that is why so many features are missing in consoles ;)

1kurgan1the biggest issue isn't fixed, can't switch squads yet.

+1

Black Haruwhats with the hostility? using what he just said, you can bind whatever button you want...

also, the RAT7 is one of the best mice on the market.

No hostility at all, I just replied when he went hostile on me the second time. I don't want start a debate about mice here, but let's make it clear that no laser mouse come any close to be the best mouse in the market, period. (optical mice like the MS WMO1.1, MS IE3.0 or LOGI MX500 are 10 times better than wannabe zillion-DPI zillion-buttons laser gimmicks)

I was the alpha/beta tester of many fps games, but never ever saw a customization problem like this one. Control is the very first thing what you do when you gave the game to the testers, way before alpha tbh.
I'm not mad or anything, I just find it ridiculous that they fix graphics and other unimportant stuff when the netcode and the control (the two most important things in an fps game) are broken. Who the hell cares about crosshair graphics or ranking stuffz anyway, when you can't even beta-test properly?

And about this matter, I have a MS and a Logitech mice atm, and I can't bind the RMB only the extra buttons in the official software (I hacked it ofc, but casual gamers can't do that).
And again, this is not about me and my problem, it's about what they should fix the first (obviously)!

edit:typo

Covert_Deathits not just mouse functions that don't bind...
i have a MX518 Gaming mouse, its tried and tested to be a GREAT mouse for gaming im not buying new hardware because it is a flawless gaming mouse and no other mouse is as comfortable on the hand.

joysticks do not bind either, and anyone who was able to get into Caspian Border map knows how retarded that is.

to this day they STILL do not have proper joystick support in BC2, when twisting left, the chopper still twists right for most joysticks out there.

they need proper support for all devices and full use of them. i shouldn't have to program my mouse to MB5 = f, i should just use MB5 as knife.

and the joystick thing was a joke in beta. i truley hope they get it fixed upon release cause in BC2 is wasn't that big a deal but BF3 is HUGE maps with lots of air combat and if i can't get my stick working then that is utter BS on EA's part.

... so your saying that you are mad because they did not have support for a feature that you were not supposed to have access to? there are no vehicles in metro, why would they spend time adding joystick support for it??

Unless you were officially invited to a Caspian server (the only person I know of on here is Gully), I don't wan't to here you QQ about it. It makes you sound like a pretentious prick.

IkarugaNo hostility at all, I just replied when he went hostile on me the second time. I don't want start a debate about mice here, but let's make it clear that no laser mouse come any close to be the best mouse in the market, period. (optical mice like the MS WMO1.1, MS IE3.0 or LOGI MX500 are 10 times better than wannabe zillion-DPI zillion-buttons laser gimmicks)

I was the alpha/beta tester of many fps games, but never ever saw a customization problem like this one. Control is the very first thing what you do when you gave the game to the testers, way before alpha tbh.
I'm not mad or anything, I just find it ridiculous that they fix graphics and other unimportant stuff when the netcode and the control (the two most important things in an fps game) are broken. Who the hell cares about crosshair graphics or ranking stuffz anyway, when you can't even beta-test properly?

And about this matter, I have a MS and a Logitech mice atm, and I can't bind the RMB only the extra buttons in the official software (I hacked it ofc, but casual gamers can't do that).
And again, this is not about me and my problem, it's about what they should fix the first (obviously)!

edit:typo

I agree, I would rather they spend time on functionality before eye-candy. but here are two facts: first, they have fixes for most of these bugs, but they have no intention of adding those fixes to the beta. second: unfortunately, many casual gamers care a lot less about the functionality and a lot more about the eycandy and bragging rights.
between the two, DICE's choices seem pretty logical to me.


also, not all of us are pro-gamers, and most of us are perfectly happy with our laser mice. the RAT7 specifically has some features that make it appealing above other mice- comfort. the customization means you can make it fit your hand. (except mailman, we all know there is only one thing he likes in his hand all the time)

hmmm

I thinj rish mode is the gayest mode ever, remind anyone of useless CS?

Black Haru... so your saying that you are mad because they did not have support for a feature that you were not supposed to have access to? there are no vehicles in metro, why would they spend time adding joystick support for it??

Unless you were officially invited to a Caspian server (the only person I know of on here is Gully), I don't wan't to here you QQ about it. It makes you sound like a pretentious prick.
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i was invited to play caspian border, so yes, i was supposed to be testing that map. im not QQing about it, i just think that things like control and control configuration should be sorted out in alpha, these are not things to "discover" in beta.

XD they atleast patched it so that people like me can't say dl the server files, edit them a bit launch the server join it then in the server console type "ServerAwardSystem.fakeKills 350", suicide and repeat until i unlock all the guns and attachments and then type "server.endRound" and make this perma to my account. Now servers need auth, although there has been some leeway in setting up a xbox360/ps3 server that you can join with your computer, but nothing on making one of those servers that you can join with console and repeat.

Ikarugaoh, please pull yourself together with your pro-gimmick "mouse" and visit the nearest clue-shop asap. I'm running game servers and playing competitive fps games since they are exist. I'm not saying I know everything but please(!) don't tell me what I should buy and why because you have clearly no idea whatsoever. FYI: attention whoring != skill

I wonder what could be more important in an FPS game than control, and btw, I want to bind jump to RMB if you are interested.

I offered you a solution to fix a problem in a beta, stop the sob story and the insults. It's a beta not a demo, grow up. The solution I offered you works just fine, you can throw around your e-wang as much as you like, (I own the moon) but odds are, if you are as hardcore as you say you are. Then your mouse has software to map keys, use them one person in this thread already had the ability to but didn't realize it till I said it. But it's nice to see someone with very little posts using reaction faces to start a thread then being a pro-gamer and insulting in the same thread, glad to try and help you out!

erockerThe biggest issue is one map. :ohwell:

I agree, but we are testing the game, not demoing it. Less than a month till release, thats fine by me.

Wile EShouldn't have to remap via mouse software. It should be a game feature, period.

Well we aren't playing the release game, we are playing the beta. It seems people don't understand that at all. They have a bindings menu, expect it to work, it won't let me remap any key at all, OMG IT'S BROKEN!!11!1 I just don't get the point in that kind of response.

Batou1986Problem: BF3 BETA does/don't _____________, __________________, _____________ .

Solution: :cry: some more, Learn definition of BETA, then wait for the actual game to come out.

Public beta isn't an excuse for a broken game.

This actually looks like a half decent game or a reason to go and buy a gaming pc.

I watched the Youtube videos of gameplay and noticed that some players just has no clue of teamwork, shake and bake and the general effort of as a team moving forwards and winning.
Also noticed there are some bugs related to movement, guns, some lag on i7-990x nv580sli's that is part of the game not the actual servers / pc's.
Some areas you could see through the ground as if flying just below the ground / falling through the map when running over hills.

This is getting close to 2005/2006 game standards but with better / more detailed graphics.

If they fix that bugs then this could end up being a really decent game, 1st one since 2005/6 worth buying. Guns looks a bit pathetic and needs allot of work. The choices of guns in the youtube videos seems incorrect for what is happening in the game.
Graphics is okay but expected more and the over / under saturation in some area's was very annoying, other graphics was very nice.

Any idea on a dedicated server for user hosting and game map editors as they are real deal makers / braker's when I buy games. Can not rely on Forrest Gump and his 3 days out of kindergarten networking degree's running the hosted server for the game developers.

[H]@RD5TUFFPublic beta isn't an excuse for a broken game.

The stuff people are crying about in this thread aren't broken things. They are comfort things. The best place to take any complains is to their forums, but I rarely see anyone in the TPU Platoon posting on there, just complaining here.

1Kurgan1The stuff people are crying about in this thread aren't broken things. They are comfort things. The best place to take any complains is to their forums, but I rarely see anyone in the TPU Platoon posting on there, just complaining here.

Just because your not in the TPU platoon doesn't mean your not voicing your complaints.;)

[H]@RD5TUFFJust because your not in the TPU platoon doesn't mean your not voicing your complaints.;)

I just hope everyone is, it's why we are testing the game. Give them as much feedback as you can.

Ok peeps, how exactly are bugs being swashed if they didn't release a installable patch?

douglatinsOk peeps, how exactly are bugs being swashed if they didn't release a installable patch?

Thats what I'm talking about :) A lot of people are complaining without reading what DICE says. There will not be bug fixes in the beta, they will be in the release build, it's supposedly about a month ahead of the beta build. I can't say I agree with that method completely, but if it gets issued fixed, then it's fine by me.

Glad I am avoiding all these headaches :) ...I won't be able to play the BETA until later next week ;) Hopefully by then most of these problems will be fixed

alexsubriGlad I am avoiding all these headaches :) ...I won't be able to play the BETA until later next week ;) Hopefully by then most of these problems will be fixed

until next week???

sorry to be the bringer of bad news but the beta ends on the 10th - there wont be a 'next week'

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Yes - it's serious