IMO they could have put something with a little more grunt then E-450 in there.

FreedomEclipseIMO they could have put something with a little more grunt then E-450 in there.

Well there won't be an AMD APU with low enough TDP for an ultrathin until Trinity comes out I believe save for a C-series or an E-series. Of which the E-450 is the fastest until Trinity.

On the plus side, if they price this under $600, it will be a rather nice school computer.

VulpesveritasWell there won't be an AMD APU with low enough TDP for an ultrathin until Trinity comes out I believe save for a C-series or an E-series. Of which the E-450 is the fastest until Trinity.

On the plus side, if they price this under $600, it will be a rather nice school computer.

I have an Ideapad with an E-350, SSD, and 8GB RAM that I use for studying on almost daily basis. The E-350 is annoyingly slow. I thought that replacing the stock 750GB 5400RPM hard drive with a SSD would make things snappy. It did for a few things, but I can definitely tell the E-350 is struggling in this thing. Granted, I'm spoiled by the speed of my desktop, but I get frustrated with the sluggishness of this laptop frequently.

How is the Radeon HD 6320 graphics? Is it powerful enough for Minecraft/BF3/Black Ops/Skyrim/L4D2?

If this is priced decently I might pick it up for a work laptop.

bogieHow is the Radeon HD 6320 graphics? Is it powerful enough for Minecraft/BF3/Black Ops/Skyrim/L4D2?

Minecraft yes. BF3 at bare most minimum settings and resolution most likely. blackops/skyrim/L4D2 at low-medium probably.

bogieHow is the Radeon HD 6320 graphics? Is it powerful enough for Minecraft/BF3/Black Ops/Skyrim/L4D2?

I've tried the HD 6310 (e350), and it does alright with Halo, Half Life 2, RTCW, COD2, COD4:MW (low). This is typically at 720p resolutions (1366x768). Doom 3 was pretty sluggish.

RylanI have an Ideapad with an E-350, SSD, and 8GB RAM that I use for studying on almost daily basis. The E-350 is annoyingly slow. I thought that replacing the stock 750GB 5400RPM hard drive with a SSD would make things snappy. It did for a few things, but I can definitely tell the E-350 is struggling in this thing. Granted, I'm spoiled by the speed of my desktop, but I get frustrated with the sluggishness of this laptop frequently.

do you have the S205? but yeah, I do understand what you are getting at since i own a smilar spec'd laptop. but it is what it is, I dont exactly use it everyday but i can see why something like that would drive you mad if you were to use it on a regular basis. i.e for school/uni etc etc.

bogieHow is the Radeon HD 6320 graphics? Is it powerful enough for Minecraft/BF3/Black Ops/Skyrim/L4D2?

Lol!!!!! its only a 18 watt tdp netbook

FreedomEclipsedo you have the S205? but yeah, I do understand what you are getting at since i own a smilar spec'd laptop. but it is what it is, I dont exactly use it everyday but i can see why something like that would drive you mad if you were to use it on a regular basis. i.e for school/uni etc etc.

Yes, I have the S205. I think what happened is that I didn't know how bad Atom really was, and when the reviews came out for Zacate saying that it was a significant step up from Atom, I didn't have a baseline for comparison.

Alvy Ibn FerozLol!!!!! its only a 18 watt tdp netbook

Brazos does quite well given its TDP, but yeah, it's not an APU that you want to be using for gaming.

i don't get why many people just go out and buy netbooks and this kind of "ultra portables" for so much money??

i recently bought a HP 2510p for 120€ and use it as my work machine at uni, and yes it can't play anything but counter strike 1.6 and maybe cs:s.

but the core su7600 rocks with only 2x1,2Ghz ( o.c. to 1,4 possible ) it runs everything else fine!

Rylanwhen the reviews came out for Zacate saying that it was a significant step up from Atom, I didn't have a baseline for comparison.

Atom is just as slow. both platforms has its advantages and disadvantages, but they are both in the ULV class of CPUs so performance is obviously not going to be earth shattering.

the AMD is ahead in terms of gaming/media performance. I have no problems hooking my DM1 to a 40" LCD and watching a 1080p video with no stuttering. Im not sure about the newer atoms but i know the previous generations wouldnt of been able to do that. same goes for gaming. Unless the netbook/laptop was an ION or ION2 platform, there would be no way in hell that games like L4D, MW3 or Batman:AA are even remotely playable compared to the E-350/450 and thats why Zecate is the more popular option for netbooks - its like a mini media center PC

newer atoms still cant play 1080p smoothly.
e350s are nice. not the best, but they are ok enough for day to day stuff.
no serious gaming possible.

at this price you can get a better A6 powered one. that wont be ultra thing though.

Looking forward to these.