Thursday, July 26th 2012

AMD Readies Trio of Athlon II X4 Processors in FM2 Package

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Even as launch of the next-generation A-Series "Trinity" desktop APUs remains elusive, there is already talk of what AMD will do with the 32 nm Trinity silicon, apart from using them in the A-Series. Some theories point out that the best performing parts could be sold in certain "high margin" products, while the others, could be branded as Athlon II FM2. AMD is planning a trio of quad-core Athlon II X4 processors in the socket FM2 package. The company currently has a line of Athlon II series processors carved out of the "Llano" silicon, built in the socket FM1 package.

The trio of socket FM2 Athlon II X4 processors include:
  • Athlon II X4-730: quad-core, 2.80 GHz, 4 MB total cache, 65W TDP
  • Athlon II X4-740: quad-core, 3.20 GHz, 4 MB total cache, 65W TDP
  • Athlon II X4-750K: quad-core, unlocked BClk multiplier, 3.40 GHz, 4 MB total cache, 100W TDP
Socket FM1 Athlon II processors come with the integrated graphics core of the Llano silicon disabled. It's likely that this could be the case with socket FM2 processors, as well. Since the platform doesn't come with integrated graphics on the motherboard chipset, the fact that you'll need to buy/use discrete graphics card makes the lower price points of these chips a little confusing.
Source: CPU World

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36 Comments on AMD Readies Trio of Athlon II X4 Processors in FM2 Package

#26
baggpipes
seronxThe L3 has no prefetching. L2 <-> IMC not L3 <--> IMC.

The L3 is only there for dedicated cache(L2 overfills?) and snooping?(I think that is what it is called, aka HT Assist) and any gains by having L3 are overshadowed by using internal PCI-E Links.
So L3 doesnt help gaming?
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#27
baggpipes
seronxAdd the fact Trinity adds SLI wooooo! Integrated PCI-E goodness....
The GPU is disabled in these chips...
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#28
seronx
baggpipesSo L3 doesnt help gaming?
Not that much...if you were doing gaming and something else maybe it will help but I haven't really tested it out. (I haven't checked other peoples benchmarks and did a comparison of all)
baggpipesThe GPU is disabled in these chips...
The SLI is a board feature not a CPU feature... A85H/X boards introduce Nvidia SLI
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#29
Dent1
baggpipesSo L3 doesnt help gaming?
It depends on the architecture of the processors in question. I don't think L3 significantly improves gaming performance.

Look at the AM3+ Athlon II X4 645 without L3 compared to the Phenom II X4 945 with L3 cache. In gaming the separation is between 4-15 FPS depending on the game. That isn't a big improvement.

Also in some games like Dirt 2 L3 cache can decrease performance.


But really who knows? Because the Trinity might be even more or even less sensitive to L3 cache than deneb. Lets wait and see.

www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Athlon_II_X4_645/10.html
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#30
de.das.dude
Pro Indian Modder
techtardSome people don't need absolute maximum performance from their PCs. An Athlon is fine for the majoprity of PC users who surf the web, watch Youtube, do Facebook and check their e-mail.
This isn't crap just because you need the latest and greatest tech.

How does socket FM2 stack up against AM3/3+?
^ this exactly. i have seen people assembling all sort of expensive shit just to surf the et, do facebook, watch HD movies and play famville or MW2 on the net :/
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#31
_Zod_
So I assume these are Trinity cores (bulldozer 1.5)? They better be priced substantially less than their APU counterparts or clocked significantly higher.
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#32
de.das.dude
Pro Indian Modder
baggpipesSo L3 doesnt help gaming?
baggpipesThe GPU is disabled in these chips...
if you notice the speed of l3 on amds, they are pretty much same as the ddr3 memory speeds. so i dont think it helps much.
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#33
Andy77
de.das.dude^ this exactly. i have seen people assembling all sort of expensive shit just to surf the et, do facebook, watch HD movies and play famville or MW2 on the net :/
If they has the dough... but overall you might think that these people won't upgrade yearly like we do, they buy and use for 4, 5 years. It's that time-frame which makes some parts obsolete, or slow performing.
_Zod_So I assume these are Trinity cores (bulldozer 1.5)? They better be priced substantially less than their APU counterparts or clocked significantly higher.
Substantially?... well, Athlon FM1 + a better discreet graphics is a little bit more as its Llano counterpart where I'm from. It just allows you to switch the graphics for something better, a mid-range probably, if what Llano has isn't enough while subtracting the cost of onboard GPU.
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#34
Dent1
Andy77If they has the dough... but overall you might think that these people won't upgrade yearly like we do, they buy and use for 4, 5 years. It's that time-frame which makes some parts obsolete, or slow performing.
Our perception of slow is different for the average user. My mother couldn't tell the difference between a single core sempron and a multi core Athlon II X4.
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#35
SIGSEGV
Dent1Our perception of slow is different for the average user. My mother couldn't tell the difference between a single core sempron and a multi core Athlon II X4.
also my father couldnt tell the difference between an amd phenom x4 955 running default and an intel i7 2600k clocked @4.5Ghz :laugh: :respect:
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#36
techtard
For most of my daily tasks, switching from a Phenom II w/ a sata 2 SSD to an i5-2500k @4.8 ghz w/ a sata 3 SSD there is very little perceptible difference.

In fact, I only really see a noticible diffference in CPU bound games.
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