I wonder how much more expensive it is to make the PCB black, seeing that they've been reluctant to do it for quite some time now, some other manufacturers too btw...

The Little card that could...:D

Debat0rI wonder how much more expensive it is to make the PCB black, seeing that they've been reluctant to do it for quite some time now, some other manufacturers too btw...

Actually nothing. The price of PCBs that they get on their orders can be made in a whole variety of colors depending on the customer wishes.

same clock range as the Palit Storm X

Marty 1480Actually nothing. The price of PCBs that they get on their orders can be made in a whole variety of colors depending on the customer wishes.

Color variance for regular Glossy PCBs (Red, blue, "brown") etc. is very low.
However if you want "black" (matte black, what is suggested here) you're looking at an easy 10-15% price increase which is a huge chunk especially on products with low margin.

I've never seen manifactures missing the point of a product so hard.
Instead of making the GTX 750 Ti smaller, more efficient and as low profile as possible,
They put a 6IN connector, make the PCB longer and add beefy coolers.

Dj-ElectriCI've never seen manifactures missing the point of a product so hard.
Instead of making the GTX 750 Ti smaller, more efficient and as low profile as possible,
They put a 6IN connector, make the PCB longer and add beefy coolers.

Some people are more concerned about performance per dollar than power consumption or space.

With a 20% overclock it's a fairly compelling card.

MikeMurphySome people are more concerned about performance per dollar than power consumption or space.

With a 20% overclock it's a fairly compelling card.

Not really. You could overclock the cheapest 750ti to that speed and more. At the price premium for this, I would sooner get the next card up, which I would consequently overclock. That is if I was concerned about price to performance only.

james888Not really. You could overclock the cheapest 750ti to that speed and more. At the price premium for this, I would sooner get the next card up, which I would consequently overclock. That is if I was concerned about price to performance only.

If common sense and even a rudimentary knowledge of tech were the sole parameters involved, there would be but a just a handful of SKUs for each GPU and chipset/socket. They aren't, so there isn't.
For every one comparative shopper of components there are likely hundreds (probably thousands at this level/price point) that don't get past the box art and specification blurb of their favourite etailer, and almost certainly don't frequent tech sites unless their system stops doing what it's supposed to.

james888Not really. You could overclock the cheapest 750ti to that speed and more. At the price premium for this, I would sooner get the next card up, which I would consequently overclock. That is if I was concerned about price to performance only.

The big issue there is as normal there's so many choices of "OC and special" while so few stock/reference models, that yes the bulk buyers who don't frequent tech sites are overwhelmed by the marketing and in their mind discount their worth.

Looking at the Palit GTX 750 Ti StormX which purportedly had an asking price $155, it had good BfB 11% faster over the reference with MSRP. Although that same 11% deficiency is what a reference R7 260X offers for $120-130, a much higher BFB even if you get a StormX for $155. Given at least here in the States, the balance of 750Ti are "OC and specials" that now see pricing of $170-180 the equation is skewed. As you say it's smarter the to jump to those remaining GTX660; like a Gigabyte GV-N660OC-2GD for $190 if willing to part with that level of cash.