So... just about a regular mouse with the sides chopped off for about 20% more money than you'd expect to pay for this quality?

XL-R8RSo... just about a regular mouse with the sides chopped off for about 20% more money than you'd expect to pay for this quality?

Do you understand about it's build quality and the sensor used in it or do you just come up with this just because it's X2 branded?

Shame they did not add 2 buttons to the other side of the mouse. I do wounder how long it would take me to get it to double click hehe.

X71200Do you understand about it's build quality and the sensor used in it or do you just come up with this just because it's X2 branded?

Because its "X2 branded"? What lol

I dont care what brand something is, so long as it has function over form and represent good value for money.


Technically, this has neither form nor much in the way of function over a typical mouse with its sides intact.


For example, you can find the the Logitech G400 (proven design with no acceleration issues) for around €30 online... the €15 you saved by not buying the X2 could be used towards a quality surface... I'd say that represents better value for money, wouldn't you?

XL-R8RBecause its "X2 branded"? What lol

I dont care what brand something is, so long as it has function over form and represent good value for money.


Technically, this has neither form nor much in the way of function over a typical mouse with its sides intact.


For example, you can find the the Logitech G400 (proven design with no acceleration issues) for around €30 online... the €15 you saved by not buying the X2 could be used towards a quality surface... I'd say that represents better value for money, wouldn't you?

Not really Newegg done sell it they do the 400s now which is $60 and Amazon sell the 400 for 73$ so. Sure there might be a cheaper place but i like to shop were i trust.

Looks like a good mouse. A new M705 is about this money with 3 year warranty. 3500DPI is kinda smallish, I guess it depends on the resolution and habit of use. My main gripe is though: no HYPER scroooolll :P No mouse without a decent scrolling can call itself special. I just can't go back to regular scrolling anymore without having it as an option.

XL-R8RTechnically, this has neither form nor much in the way of function over a typical mouse with its sides intact.

For example, you can find the the Logitech G400 (proven design with no acceleration issues) for around €30 online... the €15 you saved by not buying the X2 could be used towards a quality surface... I'd say that represents better value for money, wouldn't you?

This mouse has sides. It just has one part of the sides where your palm doesn't touch taken out. You still have sides that you can hold and press the buttons onto.

And this is likely a better mouse than G400. For beginners G400 uses an old sensor, this mouse likely has the Avago ADNS-3090 which is a superior sensor to the one in G400. As for it's build, some parts of it are made out of brushed aluminum. This is likely a solid mouse.

lZKoce3500DPI is kinda smallish, I guess it depends on the resolution and habit of use.

Actually 3500 DPI isn't kinda smallish for an optical sensor at all. ADNS-3090 does it's best around 2000 DPI.

X71200This mouse has sides. It just has one part of the sides where your palm doesn't touch taken out. You still have sides that you can hold and press the buttons onto.

And this is likely a better mouse than G400. For beginners G400 uses an old sensor, this mouse likely has the Avago ADNS-3090 which is a superior sensor to the one in G400. As for it's build, some parts of it are made out of brushed aluminum. This is likely a solid mouse.



Actually 3500 DPI isn't kinda smallish for an optical sensor at all. ADNS-3090 does it's best around 2000 DPI.

Thing is the metal parts are not what needs to be metal to make it last longer. What i be interested in is if the switch button was metal as well as the top part of the mouse has this would have a much better chance of not getting a double click syndrome.

X71200Actually 3500 DPI isn't kinda smallish for an optical sensor at all. ADNS-3090 does it's best around 2000 DPI.

It could be. I have a SteelSeries Kinzu V2 Pro edition, and it's optical on 3200 DPI. And I max it out for everyday use on 1366x768. I can't imagine being on 1920 or 4K without touching the sensitivity ratio from windows control panel. But I am not THAT familiar with optical sensors, so it might be a lot for optical sensor, but it's not a lot in real world use, IMHO. For gaming however, I lower it down, cause' I can't keep up.

X71200This mouse has sides. It just has one part of the sides where your palm doesn't touch taken out. You still have sides that you can hold and press the buttons onto.

And this is likely a better mouse than G400. For beginners G400 uses an old sensor, this mouse likely has the Avago ADNS-3090 which is a superior sensor to the one in G400.

I happen to have fairly big, manly sized hands... so my palm does rest where some peoples will not.... I kinda liked the old Sidewider mouse from MS for its width mainly for this reason.

Also, seeing as the G400 uses the 3095, which is almost identical to the 3090, there really is not much difference at lower DPI, under 2000 lets say, between these two mice.

Not really much of an issue for my prefered DPI's either way:




Guess most people are too lazy to move their hands much these days. :roll:

AsRockThing is the metal parts are not what needs to be metal to make it last longer. What i be interested in is if the switch button was metal as well as the top part of the mouse has this would have a much better chance of not getting a double click syndrome.

Metal on top doesn't equate to longer lasting as the parts underneath could be plastic. Besides, which mice has a metal DPI switch, and what gives? What matters is the switch underneath. Since this mouse likely comes with ADNS-3090, it has the new Omrons as well, which have by far gotten rid of the double click of death issue. That's an old problem that happened to a specific old Omron switch that killed some old mice such as the MS Habu.

lZKoceIt could be. I have a SteelSeries Kinzu V2 Pro edition, and it's optical on 3200 DPI. And I max it out for everyday use on 1366x768. I can't imagine being on 1920 or 4K without touching the sensitivity ratio from windows control panel. But I am not THAT familiar with optical sensors, so it might be a lot for optical sensor, but it's not a lot in real world use, IMHO. For gaming however, I lower it down, cause' I can't keep up.

It is in real world use, if you use your mouse with high enough Windows sensitivity that is. I have all the mice with the 3310 and the 3090 sensors, and they all perform best around 2000 DPI and start to perform too fast when they bypass that point unless I lower down Windows sensitivity, which then again ends up in worse results.

You have to test in Paint to see how one does. Also, Kinzu doesn't have a good sensor.

XL-R8RI happen to have fairly big, manly sized hands... so my palm does rest where some peoples will not.... I kinda liked the old Sidewider mouse from MS for its width mainly for this reason.

Also, seeing as the G400 uses the 3095, which is almost identical to the 3090, there really is not much difference at lower DPI, under 2000 lets say, between these two mice.

So do I, and yes, Sidewinder was big but it lacked in the sensor department.

There are better mouse available than that for those with big hands, such as the EC1 Evo or the Rival, with the latter being arguably the best mouse for those with giant hands, and the former the second.

Well there's not "much" difference between G400 and the old Deathadder either. Hell going that way there might not be much difference from an old Deathadder to an MS Intelli... point is, this mouse likely does feature a better sensor and that is that.

And, yes, judging by the pics if you have giant hands this might not be the mouse for you.

This isnt the Deathadder I'm using either ;)

Its far worse! Its a Mamba lol


What a giant pile of shit it is too! :roll:

X71200Metal on top doesn't equate to longer lasting as the parts underneath could be plastic. Besides, which mice has a metal DPI switch, and what gives? What matters is the switch underneath. Since this mouse likely comes with ADNS-3090, it has the new Omrons as well, which have by far gotten rid of the double click of death issue. That's an old problem that happened to a specific old Omron switch that killed some old mice such as the MS Habu.



It is in real world use, if you use your mouse with high enough Windows sensitivity that is. I have all the mice with the 3310 and the 3090 sensors, and they all perform best around 2000 DPI and start to perform too fast when they bypass that point unless I lower down Windows sensitivity, which then again ends up in worse results.

You have to test in Paint to see how one does. Also, Kinzu doesn't have a good sensor.



So do I, and yes, Sidewinder was big but it lacked in the sensor department.

There are better mouse available than that for those with big hands, such as the EC1 Evo or the Rival, with the latter being arguably the best mouse for those with giant hands, and the former the second.

Well there's not "much" difference between G400 and the old Deathadder either. Hell going that way there might not be much difference from an old Deathadder to an MS Intelli... point is, this mouse likely does feature a better sensor and that is that.

And, yes, judging by the pics if you have giant hands this might not be the mouse for you.

I was on about the switch(s) for left\right click. And sorry not going take your or their word for it that it's solved.

I seen why it starts it's due to the plastic wearing on the part you push and the actual switch were it leaves fine dust of it and start sticking and other issue's. Now what i was saying if those both parts were metal i be more inclined to think they fixed it.

AsRockI was on about the switch(s) for left\right click. And sorry not going take your or their word for it that it's solved.

I seen why it starts it's due to the plastic wearing on the part you push and the actual switch were it leaves fine dust of it and start sticking and other issue's. Now what i was saying if those both parts were metal i be more inclined to think they fixed it.

These mice don't have that issue. None of the mouse recent mice have had that problem, especially those with the new components (switch etc.).

yeah well like i said not going take their word for it. If their that good and reliable there should be a better warranty as that would truly show faith in their product even a razer product has a 2 year warranty and they are trash.

Warranty doesn't equal to product quality... a product that has a 2 year warranty might be much better than one with a 7 year warranty or the other way around.