Thursday, November 19th 2015

Intel Core i7 "Broadwell-E" to Launch in Q2-2016

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The next update to Intel's high-end desktop (HEDT) platform will arrive no sooner than Q2-2016 (April-June), according to a leaked company roadmap slide for its client computing platforms. These chips will be based on Intel's 5th generation Core "Broadwell" micro-architecture, although in the lineup, they will be sold as Core i7-6800 and i7-6900 series.

Core i7 "Broadwell-E" will see Intel release its first consumer 10-core processor, besides 6-core and 8-core. The cheapest ($400-ish) part will likely be 6-core, the mid-tier part ($600-ish) will likely be 8-core, and the top-dog $1000 part 10-core. The TDP for these parts will continue to be rated at 140W. These chips will be supported by existing LGA2011v3 motherboards, with a firmware update, just like Core i7 "Ivy Bridge-E" were supported by existing LGA2011 motherboards of the time. Elsewhere on the roadmap, we see Core "Kaby Lake" desktop processors making an entry in Q4-2016.
Sources: BenchLife.info, Many Thanks to TheLostSwede for the tip.

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34 Comments on Intel Core i7 "Broadwell-E" to Launch in Q2-2016

#1
RejZoR
So, technically, for anyone already owning a Haswell-E 6 core, there is nothing interesting to see. It's only really interesting for those who want top of the line 10 core with 20 threads. Which sounds interesting if you need the crunching power. These should be made on same node as Skylake afaik (14nm).
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#2
chinmi
will it be 100% faster then my i5 2500k @4.5ghz ?? cause if it is, i might consider upgrading...
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#3
matar
Broadwell-E 8 core @ 599 that's my next CPU
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#4
HumanSmoke
matarBroadwell-E 8 core @ 599 that's my next CPU
MIght be mine also, especially if (when) the mobo vendors offer a second revision of X99 with a few more I/O options.
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#5
Ubersonic
RejZoRSo, technically, for anyone already owning a Haswell-E 6 core, there is nothing interesting to see. It's only really interesting for those who want top of the line 10 core with 20 threads.
Also true of SB-E/IB-E owners unless you really want that extra 5-10% IPC.
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#6
matar
HumanSmokeMIght be mine also, especially if (when) the mobo vendors offer a second revision of X99 with a few more I/O options.
Oh yes my new x99 must have USB 3 type-C they should be out by then I hope
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#7
Parn
In the UK i7 6700K sells for £349 whereas 5820K is only £311. For those who need the extra 2 cores/4 threads, the HEDT no longer comes with a cost penalty.

If AMD Zen doesn't deliver and Intel mainstream i5/i7 keep going up in price, my next upgrade will be Skylake-E or Kaby Lake-E.
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#8
RejZoR
Actually it does. X99 board are very expensive compared to Z170, even if the CPU's are about the same. Probably because of higher lane count and quad channel support. You could find cheaper alternatives but you'll have to narrow it down to certain brands. I wanted ASUS and there was ridiculously expensive Rampage V Extreme or the Sabertooth X99 which is still jolly expensive, but I wanted a rugged board so that's what I went for. I don't think there is any ASUS X99-A, the base models. I could be wrong...
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#9
ensabrenoir
.....cool i have a few empty cases i need a fill-in'. I now its just me but every time I see the word Kaby my mind pronounces and images :

OR BETTER YET
MR CRABS.....

either way I have a node 804 that's really looking forward to 2016
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#10
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
RejZoRActually it does. X99 board are very expensive compared to Z170, even if the CPU's are about the same. Probably because of higher lane count and quad channel support. You could find cheaper alternatives but you'll have to narrow it down to certain brands. I wanted ASUS and there was ridiculously expensive Rampage V Extreme or the Sabertooth X99 which is still jolly expensive, but I wanted a rugged board so that's what I went for. I don't think there is any ASUS X99-A, the base models. I could be wrong...
While there are cheaper Z170 boards, it seems most people opting for unlocked i7's shoot for more expensive boards. If I was to build a high en system I'd definitely go X99.
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#11
Chaitanya
RejZoRActually it does. X99 board are very expensive compared to Z170, even if the CPU's are about the same. Probably because of higher lane count and quad channel support. You could find cheaper alternatives but you'll have to narrow it down to certain brands. I wanted ASUS and there was ridiculously expensive Rampage V Extreme or the Sabertooth X99 which is still jolly expensive, but I wanted a rugged board so that's what I went for. I don't think there is any ASUS X99-A, the base models. I could be wrong...
Actually asus does offer a cheap X99-A motherboard and it has been upgraded now to support the usb3.1. In India I remember when I was building a pc for my friend we found that 5820K+X99-A+16GB DDR4 cost the same as 4790K+Maximus VII Forumla+16GB DDR3. So getting a X99 platform was a no brainer.
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#12
Brusfantomet
RejZoRActually it does. X99 board are very expensive compared to Z170, even if the CPU's are about the same. Probably because of higher lane count and quad channel support. You could find cheaper alternatives but you'll have to narrow it down to certain brands. I wanted ASUS and there was ridiculously expensive Rampage V Extreme or the Sabertooth X99 which is still jolly expensive, but I wanted a rugged board so that's what I went for. I don't think there is any ASUS X99-A, the base models. I could be wrong...
There is not that i understand the reasoning for getting a Asus board.

Wonder what the lane count will be, since the cheep Boroadwell-E will have two fewer cores than the medium one it could get 40 PCI-E lanes, compared to the 28 for the 5820k.

Will also be interesting to see if the saved energy from the energy budget due to the shrink will lead to an higher clocked chip. Wonder what the 10 core will have as non tubro frequency.
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#13
cdawall
where the hell are my stars
chinmiwill it be 100% faster then my i5 2500k @4.5ghz ?? cause if it is, i might consider upgrading...
In what manner? Single core IPC has had very little increase for the entire core series. In multithreading the 6th generation offers almost 50% better performance over the 1st and 2nd gen core i series. It is the first generation to touch AMD in multicore performance and it comes very very close in multicore efficiency. So in a crappy game that only utilizes 2 threads your i5 will perform very close, just like the pentium G3258's do. In anything that can use all of the threads its night and day.
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#14
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
RejZoRSo, technically, for anyone already owning a Haswell-E 6 core, there is nothing interesting to see. It's only really interesting for those who want top of the line 10 core with 20 threads. Which sounds interesting if you need the crunching power. These should be made on same node as Skylake afaik (14nm).
Depends on if the new 6 core entry part has a gimped PCI-E controller or not. I think each CPU having a different core count will let them go back to the way things where. I still would like to see a quad-core parts as well because not all workstations need more cores. I guess there are still Xeons to choose from on that end though.
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#15
Tomgang
Oh fuck all these cores. Lets go back way back in time. Back to the single cores W/O HT. Single core is the future... all bow before the mighty single core:respect:

oh well multi core is the future, happy now.

Speaking of cores, that 10 core looks delicious but is way to pricy for me. But maybe that 8 core version is a nice upgrade from my old I7 920.
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#16
lilhasselhoffer
So, Intel has been experimenting with the enthusiast platform for quite a while.

SB released their low end as locked, but with HT and full PCI-e. IB released as exactly the same.

Haswell introduced a full six cores with HT, but cut out some PCI-e.

Now we've got Broadwell's low end moving up to six cores. Do you think they'll still be skimping on PCI-e to support the reduced cost? I figure now that the CPUs are 6, 8, and 10 cores there will be precious little reason to choose a high end mainstream rig ahead of the "low end" enthusiast rig. I don't think Intel is being foolish, but it's getting harder to justify the high-end mainstream when the low end enthusiast offering offers pretty much everything, and more, that the mainstream does.
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#17
RejZoR
Well, it depends. Lack of PCIe lanes doesn't really affect me since I'm a single graphic card fanatic so it'll run at full speed either way. I have placed my soundcard on some other PCIe slot to free up full speed of M.2 slot (because it shares resources with that PCIe slot), but that was really not an issue and I knew about such design even before purchasing this mobo. Things change for those who want multi-GPU setups. But that's up to them to decide what's important and what isn't.
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#18
xkm1948
Very good news. I will either buy a 8 core version of Broadwell-E or a used 5960X,
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#19
terroralpha
i went for asus X99 deluxe and 5930k on launch day back in august of 2014. it was $860 for both at Microcenter. no regrets. i knew that this platform wouldn't be outclassed for many years to come. guess i was right.
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#20
R-T-B
RejZoRI don't think there is any ASUS X99-A, the base models. I could be wrong...
There is. I did my first X99 build with one, and sold it later here on the forums.
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#21
RejZoR
Aaaa, I see why I skipped it entirely. It has PS2 port and single LAN port. I prefer more USB ports instead of useless PS2 and I wanted dual LAn for redundancy if one fails so I don't have to buy a separate LAN card.
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#22
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
lilhasselhofferSB released their low end as locked, but with HT and full PCI-e. IB released as exactly the same.
The 4820k was unlocked, the 3820 wasn't.
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#23
newconroer
RejZoRSo, technically, for anyone already owning a Haswell-E 6 core, there is nothing interesting to see. It's only really interesting for those who want top of the line 10 core with 20 threads. Which sounds interesting if you need the crunching power. These should be made on same node as Skylake afaik (14nm).
From my understanding any one owning SandyBridge, there's still nothing to see.
Seriously, I haven not been shown any thing that convinces me a motherboard/chip upgrade is going to be worth my time, concerning Ivy, Skylake, Haswell
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#24
lilhasselhoffer
AquinusThe 4820k was unlocked, the 3820 wasn't.
You are correct. The 4820 was a k. My bad.
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#25
Aquinus
Resident Wat-man
lilhasselhofferYou are correct. The 4820 was a k. My bad.
Personally I'm hoping they go back to not gimping the PCI-E controller and just sticking with 3 parts with different core counts.
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