Tuesday, December 8th 2015
Corsair Unveils its First Inverted-ATX Cases, the Carbide 600Q and Carbide 600C
Corsair, a world leader in enthusiast PC hardware and components, today announced the release of the new Corsair Carbide 600Q and Carbide 600C high-performance PC cases. With iconic minimalist styling, a wealth of sound-deadening features (600Q), a huge clear side-panel window (600C) and distinctive inverted-ATX interior design, the 600Q and 600C continue the Corsair tradition of innovation and excellence in modern PC case design to deliver a no-compromise approach to PC cooling.
Unlike many PC cases which demand enthusiasts choose between noisy, high-airflow ventilation or low-noise, restricted airflow designs, the 600Q and 600C are able to deliver the best of both. The distinctive inverted-ATX internal design places the heat producing components in the direct airflow pathway of the two AF140L 140mm intake fans and single AF140L 140 mm exhaust fan, providing powerful and efficient cooling, with extra wide vents ensuring unimpeded airflow.
Specially tuned for low-noise operation, the 600Q and 600C's three included fans have been redesigned for excellent airflow at lower noise levels, with an integrated external 3-speed fan controller allowing users to reduce the fan RPM, further lowering noise with a minimal impact on cooling performance. The result is a no-compromise approach to cooling that delivers fantastic system temperatures at extremely low noise levels.
The 600Q dedication to low-noise continues well beyond fan speeds. High density sound deadening material fitted in the front panel, side panels, and roof works to further mute system noise and ensure that the 600Q is as quiet as it is beautiful.
Clean and minimalist styling that's both eye-catching yet reserved combines with solid steel exterior paneling and a premium finish. The distinctive curved front panel houses two 5.25in drive bays secreted behind a hinged flap, offering full functionality without compromising on looks. Inside you'll find two tool-free 3.5in drive bays and three tool-free 2.5in drive bays integrated into a stylish PSU and drive bay cover. A plethora of cable routing holes, tie-downs and cable grommets make building in the 600Q and 600C easy, so your system can look as good on the inside as it does on the outside.
Available in December from Corsair's world-wide network of retailers and distributors, the Carbide 600Q and Carbide 600C are backed by a comprehensive two year warranty and Corsair's world-wide customer support network.
Specifications
Unlike many PC cases which demand enthusiasts choose between noisy, high-airflow ventilation or low-noise, restricted airflow designs, the 600Q and 600C are able to deliver the best of both. The distinctive inverted-ATX internal design places the heat producing components in the direct airflow pathway of the two AF140L 140mm intake fans and single AF140L 140 mm exhaust fan, providing powerful and efficient cooling, with extra wide vents ensuring unimpeded airflow.
The 600Q dedication to low-noise continues well beyond fan speeds. High density sound deadening material fitted in the front panel, side panels, and roof works to further mute system noise and ensure that the 600Q is as quiet as it is beautiful.
Clean and minimalist styling that's both eye-catching yet reserved combines with solid steel exterior paneling and a premium finish. The distinctive curved front panel houses two 5.25in drive bays secreted behind a hinged flap, offering full functionality without compromising on looks. Inside you'll find two tool-free 3.5in drive bays and three tool-free 2.5in drive bays integrated into a stylish PSU and drive bay cover. A plethora of cable routing holes, tie-downs and cable grommets make building in the 600Q and 600C easy, so your system can look as good on the inside as it does on the outside.
Available in December from Corsair's world-wide network of retailers and distributors, the Carbide 600Q and Carbide 600C are backed by a comprehensive two year warranty and Corsair's world-wide customer support network.
Specifications
- Inverse-ATX Layout: With this new layout, airflow is easily directed at the hottest devices in your system; the GPU and CPU, and not wasted on drive cages.
- Sound Damping Throughout (600Q only): Keep your system quiet and cool with high-density sound damping material on side panels, front panel, and top panels. It's so quiet, you'll find yourself wondering if your PC is even powered on.
- Hinged and Latched Full Side Panel Window (600C only): Easily access your components with a single touch - and when closed, enjoy viewing every part of your build through the full size side panel window.
- Steel Exterior: Get rid of those plastic cases - the 600Q and 600C have full steel exterior panels for extra durability and gorgeous good looks.
- Three Included AF140L fans: Great airflow doesn't have to be noisy - the three AF140L fans can push large amounts of air across your hottest devices without that annoying fan hum, and the three-speed fan controller lets you decide exactly how fast they run.
- PSU and 5.25" Bay Cover: Clean up the inside of your case by tucking all those cables and less-attractive drives behind a clean, refined PSU and 5.25" bay cover. Or remove them for assembly - it's up to you.
- Watercooling Ready: Fit up to a 280mm radiator up front and up to a 360mm radiator on the bottom - along with a 140mm rear fan mount.
- Easy to Clean: Easily access dust filters on front and bottom meaning you'll never spend more than a minute getting dust out of your system.
- Easy to Build: Tool-free drive installation, tool-free side panel access, and tons of cable routing options and tie downs means you can spend less time building your PC and more time using it.
- MSRP: $149.99 exc. Tax
66 Comments on Corsair Unveils its First Inverted-ATX Cases, the Carbide 600Q and Carbide 600C
the heat inside the case is very localized the hottest part being the upper rear which dosnt matter in the slightest.. its where all the gpu and cpu heat ends up going.. it then goes out of the upper rear and heats the room.. he he
basically my graphics cards create a warm pocket of air directly above them.. this pocket of warm air is picked up by the cpu cooler fans which heats it up some more and then it gets blasted out of the upper rear of the case.. my front case fans do bugger all.. my side case fans do a lot and so does the upper rear fans..
but no way on this planet is my case temp even.. its all very localized and short of blowing a gale through it.. it cant be any other way..
i aint going to buy one of these upside down cases but i can see for me at least a positive advantage in moving my cpu cooler underneath my pair of room heater graphics cards.. for sure the psu will run hotter but for equally sure my cpu will run cooler.. he he
some case temps may be even.. mine certainly are not.. :)
trog
The biggest difference is the PSU intake pulling from outside the case (cooler temps) or inside the case (higher temps).
Secondly, those are normally quieter than the external exhaust type and I would expect them to be the normal pick for a 600C build.That I would like to see. Truthfully. Maybe I'm making a mountain out of a mole hill, but I see too many people posting here with temperature problems that, IMHO, trace back to airflow. Too many cases are made without the following thought process:
- A) Where's the air coming from?
- B) Where's the air going?
- And what components does the air cool/what components does the air flow across, while getting from A to B?
IMHO, most cases today leave the GPU's in a dead air pocket. These cases, with intake fans on the bottom have no dead air zones!BTW, what's the air's temperature delta across an AIO's radiator?That's actually funny and sobering at the same time. ATX came out in what year? 1995 How many watts did the CPU use at that time? How many watts did GPU's use at that time? And check out the sentence that says: "Chassis venting should be placed strategically to allow for proper cooling of other components such as peripherals and add-in cards."
@rtwjunkie , I don't think anyone is saying that keeping the PSU as cool as possible is not a good idea. And I wouldn't be surprised if the biggest reason that case manufacturers put the PSU down there in that orientation is so that we don't drop things into the PSU. :roll:But why fight physics? IMHO, go with the flow and give it a helping hand as needed.
That's all I'm going to say on the subject. Choices and free will are good.
Now, I can't imagine a single Corsair case I'd buy.
That has long since been ignored by most people in the experimental gaming PC design market. We've put the power supply on top, on bottom, sideways, behind the motherboard, some guys even put it in front of the case.
Because having something different than everyone else is part of the fun of building a PC yourself anyway.
lack of dust filters, poor construction,
thin panels, rigidity,
design options,
either one or some of the above, plus overprice,
example: the 600T, a beautiful case but with no front mount option other than a 200mm fan,
worst than that, only a 20mm thick one, otherwise get rid of the hdd bays or mod around,
and the top 200mm/20mm fan can't easily be replaced for 25mm one(s) lest the air cooler touches them,
I could go on with this case or others, or other Corsair products but I don't have the patience.
:banghead:
You know what I see failing? Old and cheap PSUs being overloaded and almost any Antec PSU I've ever deployed. My Corsair HX520 was the sole exhaust on a Core2 ocd system for a spell before I could afford fans... That PSU and system are still going strong.
Sure heat kills...but I'm no longer ovwrclocking to the hilt...but would like better airflow and sound control. I'll keep an eye on this for sure. :)
This is however the first top PSU mount case I've had interest in in years. I like the overall airflow concept...now let's get the price into something I can afford and I might consider replacing my 5yo Lian-Li...
I like reverse ATX (90 degree rotated ATX is even better), but Corsair should have arranged PSU to intake fresh air. Mistake.
But that also doesn't mean it should be molten hot either, I agree. Two intake fans and only one exhaust...it'll pick up the slack...though if you have some super hot vid cards, Regardless, it should only be there to keep air moving up in that area, the primary exhaust fan should handle the bulk of hot air exhaust. Is it the perfect combo? No...but I don't see the PSU issue being that much of an issue really. But the systems I usually build are generally targeted with keeping cooler in the first place, even OC'd...so really if this case can produce good temps for those kinds of systems, and this case could have a cheaper cousin or get a price cut...or a plastic version...I'd test one. It looks easy to build inside of too.
I am in all agreement for the preference of the current popular "PSU on the bottom with dedicated intake." option, seeing as my last two cases over almost 10 years have that feature. Doesn't mean it's necessary, but it's seems to be a common-sense option if your case isn't designed for needing it as an exhaust. I think here, a quality PSU pays off too...not just in clean energy supply but in durability. And sure I still look for cases with that feature by default. It's not often I'm even interested in a case with a top mounted PSU, which this one can go on that short list at least as a blip on the radar.
I could see "server rated" ATX PSU's becoming the next big thing if top mounted PSU's were to take off again...lol. Which makes sense seeing that server PSU's act as system exhaust too, and constantly hot as well for some servers.
The lower end stuff is rated at 40C or so, which is still cooler than the ambient temp in this case for most people. But the likelihood of somebody installing a $40 PSU in a $150 case is pretty low.
As a guy who meets with our engineering and QC teams all the time and the PM for this case who spent over 18 months testing airflow patterns and thermal/noise stuff, I find it funny how confident some of you are that the performance will be bad when we have evidence, in actual reviews, of the exact opposite:
600Q thermal test:
www.vortez.net/articles_pages/corsair_carbide_600q_review,8.html
600C thermal test:
www.bit-tech.net/hardware/cases/2015/12/08/corsair-carbide-series-600c-review/3
www.cowcotland.com/articles/2003-5/test-boitier-corsair-carbide-600c.html
www.techspot.com/review/1098-corsair-carbide-series-600c/page4.html
www.legionhardware.com/articles_pages/corsair_carbide_series_600c,5.html
www.hw-journal.de/testberichte/gehaeuse/2342-test-corsair-carbide-600c?showall=&start=6
Internally we've seen the performance on this case is nearly as good as our AIR 540, which is among the best in the world. And it's significantly quieter than AIR 540. It is a really great balance of noise and cooling.
If you don't like it, that's cool. Don't like the looks or the layout - fine, I get that, no problem. Everyone has preferences.
But please give us credit on the performance here - it's been thoroughly tested, and not just by us. This case has very, very good cooling.
I tend to plan my systems out to not run at molten hot temps anyways, so what some folks are twisted about doesn't apply to me...there are other cases and bench setups for them.
I have my now getting pretty old Corsair HX750W (2010-ish)...I don't plan to replace it quite yet...but it never exhausts anything more than barely luke-warm as it stands with a dedicated intake. I'd be fine using it as a secondary exhaust route tbh. As I said in one of my previous posts, I had an HX520W, which was the only exhaust for a system for a while...until I could replace fans...and never had an issue, and that system and PSU are still running to this day. 0 issues. Speaks volumes for quality components.
I tend to go for nicer PSU's and yes as you mention 50C ratings, I have and do look for that. :toast:
Like you I tend to plan my systems to run very cool. I just dislike when a company rep comes in and says everybody is aware of this and doing it, when in fact everyone but the OEM industry has gone away from the suggested ATX standard...a standard which was decided on when cases were, hot, crappy interiors and psu's were needed for exhaust and to keep costs low, that's all. We're smarter about airflow now.
He's trying to support his company's product, which is commendable, but that doesn't make it fact. Corsair FEELS that this is the future and the better way to do things. I and a few others just happen to disagree, which is perfectly ok.
@Corsair George thanks for pointing out the air intake for the GPU's. I missed that!
sorry the psu should on the bottom
I really like this case, and it looks well thought out. One of the little things that I noticed was the 8 expansion slots. IMHO, there will be a lot of these used for workstations. I still like solid tops and optical drives.
What I don't like: