Thursday, June 23rd 2016

AMD Radeon RX 470 Could Surprise with Pricing

AMD could deal yet another shock to NVIDIA after the Radeon RX 480, with its smaller sibling, the Radeon RX 470. This card is expected to be priced at $149 for the 4 GB variant, and $179 for the 8 GB variant. The card is rumored to feature 2,048 stream processors, spread acrosss 32 compute units, down from the 2,304 stream processors of the RX 480. Its memory ticks slower, at 7 Gbps, with a memory bandwidth of 224 GB/s. The most spectacular specification, however, is its typical board power, which is rated at 110W. The card should be faster than at least the R9 380X, and at its given specs, offer a very interesting option for 1080p gamers, at $149.
Sources: WCCFTech, VideoCardz
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67 Comments on AMD Radeon RX 470 Could Surprise with Pricing

#1
TheGuruStud
I'm absolutely shocked! Lower end card is cheaper!

This is nvidia:
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#2
dj-electric
Are you telling me a card slower than the RX480 will cost less? I call shenanigans

Raise your hand if you're surprised that the RX470 is cheaper than the RX480
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#3
geon2k2
I think they wanted to say that you can have decent 1080p performance with 150$ which is great.
I wonder if this would crossfire with older R9 380(x) though. That would be interesting, especially as I have one of those, with 4GB memory just like the RX 470.
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#4
Ja.KooLit
geon2k2I think they wanted to say that you can have decent 1080p performance with 150$ which is great.
I wonder if this would crossfire with older R9 380(x) though. That would be interesting, especially as I have one of those, with 4GB memory just like the RX 470.
you cant different chips.
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#5
Chaitanya
Hopefully this would mean slow down in sales of Gtx950 and Gtx 750Ti which have been holding their value for quite sometime now.
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#6
the54thvoid
Super Intoxicated Moderator
Dj-ElectriCAre you telling me a card slower than the RX480 will cost less? I call shenanigans

Raise your hand if you're surprised that the RX470 is cheaper than the RX480
Indeed. What devilry is this?

If it had been only 25 bucks cheaper, everyone would go for its bigger brother. It had to be a fair amount cheaper to differentiate it from the 480.
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#7
Caring1
geon2k2I think they wanted to say that you can have decent 1080p performance with 150$ which is great.
I wonder if this would crossfire with older R9 380(x) though. That would be interesting, especially as I have one of those, with 4GB memory just like the RX 470.
I believe DX12 games allow the use of different cards in Crossfire.
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#8
1c3d0g
Well, this would be good news for us all as it will push down overall GPU prices even further! :D
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#9
john_
All cards will be exciting, IF, they come close to their MSRPs. Who can say that RX 460 is not exciting if it comes at $79-$99. I have posted this picture in the past.

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#10
Shamalamadingdong
Caring1I believe DX12 games allow the use of different cards in Crossfire.
Yes, it allows it. If the developer has the resources to implement it. That means something like 98% of all games won't support it.
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#11
Tatty_Two
Gone Fishing
ShamalamadingdongYes, it allows it. If the developer has the resources to implement it. That means something like 98% of all games won't support it.
But in reality, would many consumers buy one to use with their existing card for a small handful of games?
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#12
ZoneDymo
I guess we can say that's rather...surpricing....harr harr harr harr harrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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#13
hojnikb
2048SP is definitely better than 1536 that was previously reported.

Although i'm still skeptical about this.
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#14
ZoneDymo
ShamalamadingdongYes, it allows it. If the developer has the resources to implement it. That means something like 98% of all games won't support it.
idk about that, who knows, maybe it will become a rather easy thing to implement, just something you almost automatically get when building a game in DX12
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#15
MagnuTron
john_All cards will be exciting, IF, they come close to their MSRPs. Who can say that RX 460 is not exciting if it comes at $79-$99. I have posted this picture in the past.

Just checked out their page. That site isn't biased at all... :shadedshu:
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#16
Shamalamadingdong
Tatty_OneBut in reality, would many consumers buy one to use with their existing card for a small handful of games?
I'd assume no one would buy a card solely for DX12 Explicit (Unlinked) Multi Adapter. That would be a ridiculous prospect. No one should buy a product around a single (supposedly) niche technology. I think it's safe to assume that most who will use this are people looking to get some extra performance through integrated graphics. I think there is better value in selling your old card for money than keeping it in hopes of using it for extra performance in the few games that are likely to support it. Ashes of the Singularity is the only game I know of that has implemented this multi GPU mode.
ZoneDymoidk about that, who knows, maybe it will become a rather easy thing to implement, just something you almost automatically get when building a game in DX12
It won't work like that. Well, or if it does, the scaling/performance would probably be bad.

Crossfire/SLI implementations are very driver dependent meaning that a lot of the work is put in the hands of AMD and Nvidia. Yet not all games support multi GPU.
With DX12, we get three modes of multi GPU and two of them, including the one we're discussing here, is all in the hands of the developer. How likely are we to see developers with the skill and time to implement this properly and then there's budget constraints to go along with it. I just don't see it happening. If they couldn't do it before, how could they do it now?

DX12 also has a mode called Implicit Multi Adapter. The idea is similar to Crossfire/SLI and will also be driver dependent. I'm guessing most developers who will implement multi GPU support will use this to save time and effort by putting the ball in the court of hardware vendors.
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#17
cryohellinc
Still it's ATI, and all the problems that come with it.
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#18
Parn
Lower power consumption is always welcomed in these mid-lower tier cards.
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#19
RejZoR
If I'm honest, ever since I've gone high end, I've entirely lost touch with mid and entry level cards. RX 480 seems ridiculously cheap, then again I'm on graphic card that was 650€ when new...
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#20
RaviSS
I think that RX 470 will have 1792 cores..... 2048 cores will be too close to RX 480 and will make it redundant if 470 is indeed priced at $149. On the other hand 460 with 1024 cores will be much weaker and again would be a much worse value for money at $100.

So in summary:

RX 480 - 2304 cores - 1266 MHz - 8Gbps 256-bit - $199
RX 470 - 1792 cores - 1150-1200 MHz - 6-6.5Gbps 256-bit - $149
RX 460 - 1024 cores - 1200-1250 MHz - 8Gbps 128-bit - $99
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#21
Tatty_Two
Gone Fishing
I want to be but still not convinced we will see the 480 at 199 anytime soon, probably in the UK closer to £199 :)
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#22
fynxer
Dj-ElectriCAre you telling me a card slower than the RX480 will cost less? I call shenanigans

Raise your hand if you're surprised that the RX470 is cheaper than the RX480
My hand is up !
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#23
Caring1
fynxerMy hand is up !
Ouch :wtf:
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#24
arroyo
Can it be unlocked to RX480?

If yes, then ... YES!
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#25
bug
ZoneDymoidk about that, who knows, maybe it will become a rather easy thing to implement, just something you almost automatically get when building a game in DX12
It's already easy to implement keyboard controls, but since everything these days is made for consoles and ported to the PC, I wouldn't hold my breath.
And no, going lower level never eases implementation.
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