Monday, August 7th 2017

Alienware Area 51 Ryzen Threadripper System Benchmarked

LinusTechTips has received an Alienware Area 51, the boutique system which Alienware has developed through its exclusive partnership with AMD for the 16-core, 32-thread Threadripper CPUs.

The system was tested using a proprietary Dell/Alienware motherboard, as well as 32 GB (4x 8 GB) of 2666 MHz DDR4 RAM. Graphics were handled by a Founders Edition GTX 1080 Ti, and storage was etched on a SanDisk A400 256 GB NVME drive (Up to 2050/700 MB/s Sequential Read/Write). The nature of the benchmarked systems, with their myriad of hardware parts, means that the benchmarks are not 100% representative of CPU performance deltas between the tested processors; however, they do put out some interesting numbers. The other HEDT system to be tested was an Intel-based X299 system with a stock Intel Core i9-7900X (10 cores, 20 threads) on an ASUS Prime X299 Deluxe, 4x 8 GB of 3200 MHz DDR4 memory, the same GTX 1080 Ti Founders Edition, and a 512 GB Samsung 950 Pro NVME SSD.
With the tested hardware, the Threadripper system delivers 68 maximum and 63 minimum FPS, which puts its slightly ahead of the Ryzen 7 system, and slightly behind, in minimum framerates, compared to the Intel systems (67 minimum for the X299 platform, and 65 for the i7-7700K powered Z270.)
3D Mark is a benchmark which doesn't scale linearly according to the number of cores - not even on its CPU test scenario. Instead, this benchmark is optimized for the highest throughput of a given architecture on the maximum number of threads it can actually spawn. This is probably why the Threadripper system delivers slightly better performance than the Ryzen 7 system on the CPU score (though not as much as one might imagine), while the X299 Core i9-7900X steals the show with higher scores across the board and  ~2,200 points extra score on the CPU benchmark - despite having six less cores and 12 less threads than the Threadripper system.
There's not much of a surprise on the Cinebench benchmarks - this is a benchmark where the Ryzen architecture shines through and through, and it shows here - not even considering the thread advantage of the Threadripper 1950X.
The same case can be made for the Blender benchmark, naturally.
What do you think of these Threadripper 1950X benchmarks? I'd say these are certainly competent enough to allow users to look at the Ryzen architecture's other strengths.

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35 Comments on Alienware Area 51 Ryzen Threadripper System Benchmarked

#26
Sempron Guy
DarkHillIts interesting though,

the AIO in question is a rebrand of the Arctic Cooling Liquid Freezer 120 which usually is comparable to most other 240mm due to its thick radiator (49mm vs 26mm for most other asetek 240mm clones).

This points towards that a normal 240mm asetek generic AIO will NOT be sufficient to cool the threadripper platform (atleat the 1950x). The picture might change somewhat if push-pull are used, but i doubt it.

The real problem is more likely the heat-exchanger area might be to small to efficiently draw the heat away from the 4x4 CCX's
if only you watched the vid, the cpu is running at 65c during aida 64 stress test. That's nowhere near overheating, not even close.
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#27
DarkHill
Sempron Guyif only you watched the vid, the cpu is running at 65c during aida 64 stress test. That's nowhere near overheating, not even close.
i did - but perhaps you didnt watch it as thoroughly as you thought you did. the cpu reported 92C that is to much.. im not sure where the sudden 27C offset is coming from - but its there for a reason. And strange that its suddenly 27C and not 20C like the other X skus in littlebrother.
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#28
Sempron Guy
DarkHilli did - but perhaps you didnt watch it as thoroughly as you thought you did. the cpu reported 92C that is to much.. im not sure where the sudden 27C offset is coming from - but its there for a reason. And strange that its suddenly 27C and not 20C like the other X skus in littlebrother.
But there is still an offset, worst case scenario it's only a 20c offset that would still end up at 72c which is still far from overheating.I think it's fair to say that there ain't nothing much to discuss from the vid as it leaves more questions than answers.
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#29
DarkHill
Sempron GuyBut there is still an offset, worst case scenario it's only a 20c offset that would still end up at 72c which is still far from overheating.I think it's fair to say that there ain't nothing much to discuss from the vid as it leaves more questions than answers.
far from overheating.. according to whom? The Ryzen 5 and 7 dont react to well to temps over 70C so i highly doubt threadripper would.
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#30
Sempron Guy
DarkHillfar from overheating.. according to whom? The Ryzen 5 and 7 dont react to well to temps over 70C so i highly doubt threadripper would.
Ryzen 5 and 7 dont react too well to temps over 70c? Say's who?
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#31
DarkHill
Sempron GuyRyzen 5 and 7 dont react too well to temps over 70c? Say's who?
Says AMD since they decided to put an offset it - do you think they did that for funsies?
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#32
Hood
TheDeeGee$1000 extra for the Brandname Alienware?
No, the price premium is for all the tech support these will need, especially considering the average Alienware buyer - not the most tech-savvy crowd (if they knew anything, they wouldn't buy Alienware). The shitty cooling is icing on the cake, should be good for hundreds of complaints/failures/RMAs. The dual channel memory is inexcusable, the boards have 4 slots, why wouldn't they wire them to all channels? I'll bet they couldn't get TR to run 4 channels at decent clocks, what with the joke cooling system, so they compromised by going dual channel, figuring most Alienware buyers wouldn't know the difference, or care if they did know. Or maybe it's the crappy pre-production CPU that Dell got stuck with, reportedly 2-5% slower than retail chips, possibly it's IMC wasn't ironed out yet, a widespread problem on Ryzen.
RaevenlordOne of the best price/performance AIOs out there. Can't complain at all.
Looks good on paper, unfortunately a large percentage of them have DOA pumps, the mounting system allows uneven pressure on the IHS, causing failure to boot if not installed perfectly, and the support/RMA department is almost non-existent (one buyer said it took 5 months to get a working unit). By all means, save a few bucks - maybe you'll be one of the "lucky" ones...
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#33
Raevenlord
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HoodLooks good on paper, unfortunately a large percentage of them have DOA pumps, the mounting system allows uneven pressure on the IHS, causing failure to boot if not installed perfectly, and the support/RMA department is almost non-existent (one buyer said it took 5 months to get a working unit). By all means, save a few bucks - maybe you'll be one of the "lucky" ones...
Well, there're always outliers. I really don't have anything bad to say, though. My request for the free AM4 mounting kit was answered in a matter of hours and received it 4 or so days after the request. No problem with the pumps, very good and silent performance. Reviews also say so.

For now, I'm a happy buyer. Also, one has to consider that it's always the bad experiences that are shouted from the rooftops the most. I can only speak for myself, naturally. Where did you get that DOA percentage?
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#34
Hiryougan
To those who complain about the ram speed.
LINUS DID NOT PICK IT. He is testing the whole system, not a platform.
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#35
EarthDog
btarunrYeah, run the Threadripper machine at DDR4-2666 and the CoreX machine at DDR4-3200 (instead of the other way around). Expected of Linus.
Great point. :)

Though, intel scaling from 2666-3200 is a lot less than ryzen based cpus scaling from the same speeds.
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