What an insane speeds. How many boards can actually run speeds like this? I reckon not many...

RejZoRWhat an insane speeds. How many boards can actually run speeds like this? I reckon not many...

2 boards lol. Asus Apex and Asrock OC Formula

dwade2 boards lol. Asus Apex and Asrock OC Formula

I wouldnt think its as much of a board limitation as it is a CPU IMC limitation.

"But will it post on ryzen?"

MxPhenom 216I wouldnt think its as much of a board limitation as it is a CPU IMC limitation.

It's both. You need a chip that does 4600 and then a board that does 4600.

MxPhenom 216I wouldnt think its as much of a board limitation as it is a CPU IMC limitation.

Has to be a board with less DIMM slots that are closer to the CPU, for cleaner signals. Hence the Apex and OC Formula, as mentioned. Possibly if there are any mITX Z299 boards on the market, they might be able to do ti as well.

Imagine Ryzen with such RAM... :D

Please use smaller res images. The screenshot is too big for my 28Kbps internet connection.

noname00Please use smaller res images. The screenshot is too big for my 28Kbps internet connection.

Do you live in the middle of the Sahara Desert or what? jesus

wiak"But will it post on ryzen?"

At JEDEC 2133Mhz :D
Well actually it should do 3200Mhz CL14 with manual timings on a decent board.

RejZoRImagine Ryzen with such RAM... :D

The world is not ready for such speeds :D

MxPhenom 216Do you live in the middle of the Sahara Desert or what? jesus

That was obviously a stab at the extremey small screenshot posted with the news.

Personally i still don't like that these high speed kits are 2x8GB. Where are 2x16GB high speed kits? The highest is DDR4-3866 CL18 2x16GB. Here's hoping they bump that to atleast 4000 now.
Bit of speculation too: DDR5 will likely launch with DDR5-3200 or DDR5-3466 default speeds (like DDR4-2133 is now). So DDR4-4600 would already be well into supposed DDR5 performnance territory wich is pretty amazing.

wiak"But will it post on ryzen?"

Samsung -b single sided ic's are the go to for ryzen memory overclocks. So these will post and some 3800-4000mhz clocks will be possible on the right setup.

MxPhenom 216Do you live in the middle of the Sahara Desert or what? jesus

I'm guessing that was sarcasm as the pics are quite small. ;)

Raevenlorddesigned for extreme speed dual-channel memory operation on the latest Intel X299 high-end desktop platform

Only for the X299?? How about the Z270 platform? Or better, the future Z370 and Z390 ones?
I mean who the hell is using dual-channel RAMs on an X~ platform anyways??

You'll notice memory is not listed as "2133 MHz", usually it's just "DDR3 2133". That is because it doesn't actually operate at 2133 MHz, it operates at 1066.6 MHz, but because it's DDR it does two operations per cycle, so it's as if it were 2133 MHz, but it technically isn't. So the proper unit to use would be 2133 MT/s which is the actual number of transfer operations that occur rather than the frequency, since those are no longer the same number with DDR memory. So you can think of "MT/s" as basically "effective MHz".

Also i found DDR4-4000 2x16GB kit. This should be the highest speed 2x16 kit currently. For some reason it is not listed on Corsairs website tho. And if Corsair makes it G.Skill can't be far behind. It is listed since 16th August: geizhals.eu/corsair-vengeance-lpx-black-dimm-kit-32gb-cmk32gx4m2f4000c19-a1673465.html

Prima.VeraOnly for the X299?? How about the Z270 platform? Or better, the future Z370 and Z390 ones?
I mean who the hell is using dual-channel RAMs on an X~ platform anyways??

Kaby Lake-X owners

1.5V - yeeesh.

MxPhenom 216Do you live in the middle of the Sahara Desert or what? jesus

We need a special /s smilie, the current methods simply do not work :rolleyes:
Also I wouldn't wanna run anything close to 1.5v for memory on a DDR4 based system, that's just asking for trouble.

dwadeKaby Lake-X owners

Yes. All 10 of them.

Kaby Lake X is soon to be dead anyway once Coffee Lake lands.

TomorrowYes. All 10 of them.

Kaby Lake X is soon to be dead anyway once Coffee Lake lands.

No, it won't. What you don't understand is that the majority of people that will invest in the X299 platform are not enthusiasts, and what Intel has done is released a single platform capable of running CPUs with 4 cores all the way up to 18 cores, and AMD needs two platforms for that. For IT guys, this is a great platform, that allows them to have a single board for all users, light and heavy. They don't need a bunch of different products for their different users, other than the CPU. This platform is probably the best HEDT ever released, and nobody sees it. Oh well.

Just the engineering excellence that is required to make these two different CPUs, KabyLake-X, without IVR, and SkyLake-X, with IVR, work in the same motherboard, has been grossly understated by most reviewers, simply because of a lack of understanding of what these CPUs do, and what HEDT really is for, that permeates a huge majority of the review industry.

cadavecaNo, it won't. What you don't understand is that the majority of people that will invest in the X299 platform are not enthusiasts, and what Intel has done is released a single platform capable of running CPUs with 4 cores all the way up to 18 cores, and AMD needs two platforms for that.

Just the engineering excellence that is required to make these two different CPUs, KabyLake-X, without IVR, and SkyLake-X, with IVR, has been grossly understated by most reviewers, simply because of a lack of understanding of what HEDT really is for that permeates a huge majority of the review industry.

That's not true. Majority of poeple who buy X299 ARE enthusiasts. By your logic what are the TRUE enthusiasts buying then if not X299? Xeons on server boards with no overclocking?

Also you neglect to mention the fact that 4 to 18 core support is not universal to all X299 motherboards. Some boards straight up do not support the quadcores and there are a few boards that only support quadcores. Also current AM4 may run 4-8 cores but AMD has stated AM4 will keep going for 3-4 years wich means over time we will likely see higher core count Zen 2 and Zen 3 on it coexisting with currents processors.

I think the backlash against Kaby Lake-X would have not been half as bad if Intel had provided quadcores with full platform featureset support (44 or atleast 28+ PCI-E lanes and quad channel memory support). THEN i would agree that Kaby Lake-X is a great starting point to jump into X299 platform. As it stands how many people will buy a 350-400$ processor as a placeholder on X299 until they can afford something better? I'd say not many and Amazon statistics confirm this looking at Kaby Lake-X sales numbers.

Coffee Lake will offer higher core count, slightly higher IPC and lower platform costs compared to Kaby Lake-X while offering better performance using less power. If Kaby Lake-X is a bad buy now it will be a stupid buy after October 5th.

RejZoRImagine Ryzen with such RAM... :D

You're limited by the IMC on the chip and the motherboard, so would be capped at 3600-3700mhz, maybe 3800mhz if the planets align but unlikely. The only real advantage is being able to run 3600MHz at C14 1T without being too mean with voltage :rockout:

TomorrowAlso i found DDR4-4000 2x16GB kit. This should be the highest speed 2x16 kit currently. For some reason it is not listed on Corsairs website tho. And if Corsair makes it G.Skill can't be far behind. It is listed since 16th August: geizhals.eu/corsair-vengeance-lpx-black-dimm-kit-32gb-cmk32gx4m2f4000c19-a1673465.html

G.skill already make DDR4 4400 kits :rolleyes: I got my 4266 kit at Ryzen's launch too so they've been doing fast af kits for a while.
Cheers for the MHz and MT/s explanation. I should have known that but never bothered looking it up.

infraredYou're limited by the IMC on the chip and the motherboard, so would be capped at 3600-3700mhz, maybe 3800mhz if the planets align but unlikely. The only real advantage is being able to run 3600MHz at C14 1T without being too mean with voltage :rockout:



G.skill already make DDR4 4400 kits :rolleyes: I got my 4266 kit at Ryzen's launch too so they've been doing fast af kits for a while.
Cheers for the MHz and MT/s explanation. I should have known that but never bothered looking it up.

Yes they do make 4400 kits but those are 2x8GB. I was specifically talking about 2x16GB kits. Generally larger module size=lower speed. Highest 2x16GB kit G.Skill makes is currently 3866Mhz. Apparently Corsair silently makes a 4000Mhz kit.

@infrared I'm sure Rejzor meant "Imagine what Ryzen could do if it could run with that speed RAM" not that it is currently possible. ;)

cadavecaJust the engineering excellence that is required to make these two different CPUs, KabyLake-X, without IVR, and SkyLake-X, with IVR, work in the same motherboard, has been grossly understated by most reviewers, simply because of a lack of understanding of what these CPUs do, and what HEDT really is for, that permeates a huge majority of the review industry.

Dave , any chance for a review of those, or even for the 4400MHz kits?? Thanks in advance!

nemesis.ie@infrared I'm sure Rejzor meant "Imagine what Ryzen could do if it could run with that speed RAM" not that it is currently possible. ;)

You might be right, but that's not what he wrote. Doesn't matter anyway, I didn't post to tell him he's wrong about anything. :)