R-T-BJesus, no one deserves to die for thinking anything. Period!

Actions are the only thing I'd ever penalize someone for.

That ban was aparently hinting at that, but went way over the top because they assumed most pedos are "passive" and frickin' banned someone over that improbable (IMO) claim.

That said, it does resonate with me because many people get saddled with shit luck in life. Sexual orientation included. I may even know something about this... but I will say no more. Actions speak louder than thoughts.

StrayKATMolesting little kids isn't a sexual orientation. It needs to be divorced from the whole notion. It's predatory and nothing more.

R-T-BThoughts and actions differ. That's the point that everyone seems to be completely missing. How you phrased it was frankly, disturbing. You are levying death wishes for mere thoughts.

People can't help what they are attracted to. People can choose what they do about that.

PS: A sexual orientation is basically ANYTHING sexual that one can be attracted to. There are good ones, and bad ones. The bad ones are generally called "paraphilias" and with good reason.

These are medical terms mind, taken from the DSM, and not very up for debate.

StrayKATWhat should disturb people is I got molested at 5. I'm the damn victim. Not pedophiles. I resent it. And I always will.

This is the "TMI" I wanted to refrain from, but it seems to be necessary. My earlier post where I punched a pedo was actually positive. They didn't win that day.

R-T-BThat would be an action, not a thought wouldn't it?

I'm sorry that happened to you, all the same. But I do not think it is relevant to my point.

Nevertheless, since I stirred up some emotions in you, I feel I owe you a story of a young me. It's... very painful for me to tell, but I feel I owe it here stand by.

StrayKATYou don't need to apologize. It's just.. hard to convey how strongly I feel without mentioning it. I only do it to focus back on kids.. the real victims.

If I sound overly violent, you can blame it on pedophiles too. I would have preferred being left alone. I am who I am because of this. Like Newton says, for every action, there's an equal and opposite ;)

lexluthermiesterWow, missed a lot overnight! StrayKat, a lot of people agree with you and feel your pain, myself included. Someone in my life was the victim of such a low-life. You have no idea how close I have come to certain "actions", slowly carried out "actions". R-T-B does have a point about private thoughts. Thoughts and actions are very different. No one has the right to be "Thought Police". However people having such thoughts should have the good sense to keep those thoughts to themselves lest incur the wrath of the public. And the "sexual orientation" perspective is also valid. It is a science based classification. But he was also correct about the "paraphilias" point, and pedophilia is classified as such. However it would be a mistake to casually call pedophilia a "sexual orientation". While it technically is, calling it such gives it a level of validation that is completely unacceptable.

Back on topic, if this is the kind of thing that was going on at neogaf, once again, good riddance. Seems to be bleeding admins and users like a spaghetti strainer.

StrayKATMolesting little kids isn't a sexual orientation. It needs to be divorced from the whole notion. It's predatory and nothing more.

HopelesslyFaithfuldepends what you consider a child to be. In today world a 18 year old and 16 year old is automatically rape. 16 and 14 is too. 14 year olds sending nudies are guilty of manufacturing child porn. All of those are devoid of any logic or justice. If your talking about a 8 year old being pursued by people 10+ years older sure. 17 year old going after a 9 year old? Sure but be specific. US laws across the board and what idiots count as pedophilia is stupidly broad.

StrayKATSome of that is still pretty distasteful, but for now, I'm mostly concerned about little kids (pre-teenagers).

17 year old going after a 9 year old is definitely bad. That story I mentioned when I first posted here (when I was 9) was an older teen guy who tried to overpower me. But he wasn't even 17. He might have been 14 or 15. It's bad enough that he forced himself, but his age alone made it sick.

And to be honest, I think I'm still pretty level headed. I used to also hate gays because of these experiences. But I know they're not all like that.

HopelesslyFaithfulnot sure whats distasteful (maybe is your a christian or a puritan or a busy body meddling in peoples lives) but to each their own. I find prosecuting and ruining kids lives over consensual actions that is between familial issues is distasteful but whatever.

StrayKATI don't care about 14 yr old kids sending nudes. Whoopdee-doo. This is typical adult behavior. That's what I mean by "distasteful". I cringe at it... but it's not a crime.

You didn't need to read all of that into it. You're just being a smartass for bringing your little mini rant against religion into it. This is irrelevant. :)

At the most, I'd only want to prosecute the person receiving the photos. I was a 14 year old myself once and sexually aware at that point.. If it was between two kids, they're just being kids. It'd be especially stupid to get involved in that. I'm only talking about an adult getting involved.

HopelesslyFaithfulre read my post. I just edited it.

what you describe is sexual battery and is already illegal so your point is moot.
www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs4.asp?ActID=1876&ChapterID=53&SeqEnd=23000000&SeqStart=21100000

for IL and I am sure in all states.

sending nudies as a teen is illegal, which is illogical to ruin kids lifes...ccase in point is below. No justice is done here.
www.nbc12.com/story/30004997/two-nc-teens-charged-for-sexting

Also my point on puritanism and Christians and busy bodies is spot on.

You do realize how many laws have come into be do to religion right?

StrayKATIt isn't spot on because I personally was talking about experience. It's the only perspective I care to talk about atm. If you wanted to talk about social norms, I wish you had chosen someone else. I want people to think about victims if they pride themselves on empathy so much.

HopelesslyFaithfuland my point is you were wanting to prosecute people who may have done nothing wrong and expand things that would wrongfully imprison and ruin peoples lives, which is actually happening right now!.

StrayKATImprison? Don't be silly. I would do more than that if I could. :)

As for your need to keep bringing up religion, it's religion that tells me to turn the other cheek. Something I admire, but something I do not find easy. Not sure why you have so much against it's ethics, when it's saying the same thing you are.

On a sidenote though, there's probably a reason why I admire Joan the Arc out of all of the saints. Kind of reflects my own supposed madness and need to fight.

RejZoRNeoGAF is cancer anyway. They are like a cult. Follow their cultist beliefs to the letter or get banned. Who the hell wants to stay there except cult leaders and mentally blind people?