Monday, June 18th 2018

Trade Your Intel Core i7-8086K for a Threadripper 1950X

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AMD acknowledges Intel's contribution to the x86 architecture over the last 40 years. However, AMD is convinced that they are the leading company for future high-performance computing, and will "take it from here". That's why AMD will hold its own online sweepstakes to give the first 40 U.S.-based winners of the Intel sweepstakes the opportunity to swap their 6-core prize for a 16-core monster. To put things into perspective, the Ryzen Threadripper 1950X has 16 cores, 32 threads, 40 MB of cache, and 64 PCIe Gen3 lanes. Now that's something hard to pass up on! AMD's sweepstakes will go live on June 25 at 1:00:00 PM EDT. If you were one of the lucky Core i7-8086K winners and want to take up on AMD's offer, check this page for further details.

Update: Intel's response didn't take long. The company posted the following message to their Intel Gaming Twitter account: "if you wanted an Intel Core i7-8086K processor too, you could have just asked us. :)"
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67 Comments on Trade Your Intel Core i7-8086K for a Threadripper 1950X

#26
Fluffmeister
To truly celebrate, these dodgy CPU companies should open up the x86 instruction set to all, you know spice up the competition, freedom of choice and all that.
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#27
uberknob1
CaqdeSeems to be selling better than Intel's i9's the 1950x is 35th on Amazon's best seller list and the first i9 is 54th (7920X) so I'm not sure what you are thinking with the 1950x not selling well. And good Intel system's lol sure.. The Ryzen 2700X is not that much slower than the 8700K... And considering AMD has working 7nm Zen silicon it won't be long till they have something faster as we are still waiting for Intel to make a 10nm chip with more than 2 working cores.
That's what I was saying though sometimes sarcasm isn't well portrayed on the interweb without emojis and smiliey faces lol ;)
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#28
cucker tarlson
Darmok N JaladFrom what I can see, the 8086k sits at 115W at default, and the 1950X is just under 180W. When Anandtech OCed the 8086k to 5.0ghz all-core, the TDP rose to 175W. So I guess it depends on what your aim is with either. You won't get near as much OC out of the 1950X, but you have more threads and cores if that's your biggest need. Looks like you're likely to get more memory slots on the AMD platform, too. Really, I'd be curious to know if buyers would really compare these two products when parting out a new build.
What I see as a bit silly here is the fact that no one is buying 8086K for the same values that 1950X has. Sure, it's a heck of a workstation cpu, but it can even bottleneck an rx480. It's absolutely crap for gaming, with higher power draw than any other cpu.
www.anandtech.com/show/11697/the-amd-ryzen-threadripper-1950x-and-1920x-review/18

That'd make more sense if they offered a 1950X to 7820x owners. I would not exchange my 5775c for this, let alone if I had a 8700K, or a higher clocked, limited version of that. If I had a workstation running a 7820x though, I'd jump on it like a dog on a three legged cat.
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#29
Hood
I wouldn't trade my i7-4790K for a TR 1950X. Not even if they included the motherboard and RAM with it. Threadripper is garbage, they cant even give them away.
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#31
R-T-B
FluffmeisterTo truly celebrate, these dodgy CPU companies should open up the x86 instruction set to all, you know spice up the competition, freedom of choice and all that.
The bad thing is, x86 is actually pretty much an expired patent, or close to it (don't remember how long they can legally stretch that out)...

But it don't matter, because then there is x86-64... and all the extensions, etc.

I mean who would want an open source 8086 clone?
HoodI wouldn't trade my i7-4790K for a TR 1950X. Not even if they included the motherboard and RAM with it. Threadripper is garbage, they cant even give them away.
Oh come on, even you have to admit you'd take it in a heartbeat. Take it and sell it maybe, but still, you know what they sell for. Quit fooling around here...
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#32
Hood
R-T-BOh come on, even you have to admit you'd take it in a heartbeat. Take it and sell it maybe, but still, you know what they sell for. Quit fooling around here...
Why are you assuming you know me or my motives? And what make you think there will be any buyers? I don't make posts lightly, I'm quite serious about what I say (unless I'm obviously joking around). Go ahead, offer me that trade. I'll tell you to keep your sorry hardware, you're stuck with that useless crap.
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#33
Bytales
silentbogoThe real question is: what are they going to do with those 8086Ks?


They will probably Sponsor an Episode of "Will it blend?"
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#34
Prima.Vera
FluffmeisterTo truly celebrate, these dodgy CPU companies should open up the x86 instruction set to all, you know spice up the competition, freedom of choice and all that.
That would practically mean that Intel/AMD to loose at least 50% of their revenue after some years. No way that's going to happen...
Specially there are WAY BETTER CPU designers out there from Samsung, Apple, ARM, etc, etc.... no way Jose.
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#35
R-T-B
HoodWhy are you assuming you know me or my motives?
I don't assume to know much, but I assume you like most humans, like more money. I know I do.

But if I was wrong, that's fair. Please don't take it as offensive I didn't mean it like that... it's to be frank, usually a pretty safe assumption.
HoodAnd what make you think there will be any buyers?
Sales figures from Amazon?

I mean I'd prefer the single die solution too, be it AMD or Intel. (I just don't like a product spread across multiple dies due to latency). But denying these things sell at all or saying you couldn't pawn one off for more than a 8086k? I mean come on man, you can't really believe that? People bought Vega to game on at way above MSRP, for crying out loud. :laugh:
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#36
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
If I had an 8086K I wouldn't trade it.
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#37
hat
Enthusiast
This move doesn't make sense to me. Nobody really buys the 8086k for workstation type work, and nobody buys the 1950x for gaming. Sure either one can do both, but the 8086k will be better for gaming, and the 1950x will be a far better workstation chip. This depends on the primary use. It's like trading a Ferrari for a Mack truck.
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#38
C.Mateos
hatThis move doesn't make sense to me. Nobody really buys the 8086k for workstation type work, and nobody buys the 1950x for gaming. Sure either one can do both, but the 8086k will be better for gaming, and the 1950x will be a far better workstation chip. This depends on the primary use. It's like trading a Ferrari for a Mack truck.
it's not supposed to make sense. it's a superb troll and marketing move. Not to mention that AMD isn't going after the people who buy the 8086k, it's a campaign that is focused on the sweepstakes Intel is holding.
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#39
Raevenlord
News Editor
Chloe PriceNice, AMD, nice. :toast:
Go away Chloe, I chose to let you die! I buried you!
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#40
silentbogo
hatThis move doesn't make sense to me. Nobody really buys the 8086k for workstation type work, and nobody buys the 1950x for gaming. Sure either one can do both, but the 8086k will be better for gaming, and the 1950x will be a far better workstation chip. This depends on the primary use. It's like trading a Ferrari for a Mack truck.
It's a dirty publicity campaign. It supposed to not make any sense.
Think of it as an act of proudly shitting on your neighbor's porch at 2:00AM.
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#41
R0H1T
qubitIf I had an 8086K I wouldn't trade it.
But you don't, so :toast:
hatThis move doesn't make sense to me. Nobody really buys the 8086k for workstation type work, and nobody buys the 1950x for gaming. Sure either one can do both, but the 8086k will be better for gaming, and the 1950x will be a far better workstation chip. This depends on the primary use. It's like trading a Ferrari for a Mack truck.
Here's an idea ~ buy 1950x at the price of an OCed 8700k, I'm sure no one ever thought of that :cool:
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#42
R-T-B
R0H1THere's an idea ~ buy 1950x at the price of an OCed 8700k, I'm sure no one ever thought of that :cool:
And hope you win the sweepstakes?

I hope you like your 8086k when you don't make the "lucky 40?" :laugh:
silentbogoThink of it as an act of proudly shitting on your neighbor's porch at 2:00AM.
Suddenly my dog's behavior begins to make sense...
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#43
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
R0H1TBut you don't, so :toast:
?
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#44
R0H1T
qubit?
So we'll never know if the offer tempts you enough, assuming you qualify for the upgrade.
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#45
DeathtoGnomes
HoodAMD should just admit that TR is not selling well, and drop the price down to $400. Like the FX-9590, which started at $920, quickly dropped to $400,and now goes for $109 (TR has already dropped 25%). Or maybe they just want to finally get some good Intel systems in their offices, with an acceptable explanation for why they're using the competition's product. Personally I think few will make that trade, maybe a couple die-hard AMD fan who secretly entered the contest, hoping to win one and sell it. Either way AMD won't lose, because TR CPUs can't do them any good sitting on a shelf, might as well use them for a cheap advertising stunt. This could backfire on them, though, making them the laughingstock when nobody wants to trade.
I kinda disagree, I think TR is selling right as expected with a wide margin for error. Prices dont mean much when it comes to demand, a few of my gaming cohorts are waiting for TR to go even lower "on sale". The demand for TR is high but the price is too high to meet that wishful thinking, its a pantience game. Profits per sale on the other hand, that is what could hurt AMD with TR sale numbers, but with the next NEW thing around the corner does it really matter?
R-T-BThe bad thing is, x86 is actually pretty much an expired patent, or close to it (don't remember how long they can legally stretch that out)...

But it don't matter, because then there is x86-64... and all the extensions, etc.

I mean who would want an open source 8086 clone?



Oh come on, even you have to admit you'd take it in a heartbeat. Take it and sell it maybe, but still, you know what they sell for. Quit fooling around here...
x86 may never go away as it should, but there too many niche uses for it.

The only purpose for an 8086 clone might be for those few games people cant let go of playing, that and museums....
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#46
Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
HoodI wouldn't trade my i7-4790K for a TR 1950X. Not even if they included the motherboard and RAM with it. Threadripper is garbage, they cant even give them away.
It clearly isn't garbage, if you can make use of the threads obviously. I probably wouldn't trade your CPU for TR either, because I wouldn't make use of the threads.
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#47
R-T-B
DeathtoGnomesThe only purpose for an 8086 clone might be for those few games people cant let go of playing, that and museums....
Well, I guess if you shrunk it down enough it might make an interesting small microcontroller. But we have far better ones around I'd think, so yeah, basically.
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#48
E-curbi
Have an 8086K delidded and binned at 5.3Ghz from Siliconlottery arriving tomorrow. I'm not trading it for nothin'. LOL :toast:
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#49
B-Real
E-curbiHave an 8086K delidded and binned at 5.3Ghz from Siliconlottery arriving tomorrow. I'm not trading it for nothin'. LOL :toast:
It's your problem, lol.
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#50
qubit
Overclocked quantum bit
R0H1TSo we'll never know if the offer tempts you enough, assuming you qualify for the upgrade.
Nah, too much novelty/nerd factor value for me. :laugh: I'd keep the thing sealed in its box and stick it on display on a shelf. Yes, I'm sad, I agree.
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