illliThis generation sucks. 1070ti performance for... 1070ti price. Oh except with less ram. What happened to previous gen performance being pushed down a lower tier? RTX on 2070 is awful, this will be worse. I hope AMD price/performance rumors are true.

This generation sucks, for AMD fans.
This card offers performance close to Vega 64, at a lower price.

birdieThere's feedback and there's buying.

The RTX 20 series has been a decent success so far. Whining is what you see from the disgruntled AMD fanboys who have been missing out on high end GPUs for several years now and thus they need to vent out and express their hate. The RTX 20 series dies are huge, the GDDR6 memory is expensive, AMD is far from being competitive and NVIDIA is not a charity and they charge exactly what the market can bear. Whining at pesky forums won't change a thing for NVIDIA. Not actually buying the RTX cards will make them decrease the prices ... but there's no competition to speak of, so what we have is a direct result of a near monopoly on the GPU market due to AMD having their hands in their arses being occupied with Ryzen.

You can be a normal human being vendor agnostic, and still complain about something being expensive. And we all complain about AMD's stupid decisions on the GPU front.
The cost of the RTX line is high, of course it is, but it's still expensive and offering too little now. We don't have a portfolio of games using RTRT, just some benchmarks and a loot-fest FPS, DLSS seems cheaper than FXAA, and it only works on an abandoned port... We don't have a justification for the high cost, just promises. It sounds just like the "Rapid Packed Math" of Vega, smoke and mirrors.

27MaDI'm the only guy here who thinks this price is so normal , this is what the 760 price was like in my country:wtf:

Problem is if a 760 was 350$ in your region , this certainly wont be the same.

Vya DomusProblem is if a 760 was 350$ in your region , this certainly wont be the same.

Never look at what they charge us here. I look at that $350 mark and see at least $550.

Review up on Hexus

hexus.net/tech/reviews/graphics/125768-nvidia-geforce-rtx-2060-founders-edition/

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Overall, it typically beats the Vega 56 and ties with a GTX1080

Vya Domusthis certainly wont be the same.

Yeah sure , it will be like 450-500$ in my region.

birdieAgain which part of Do. Not. Buy. It. if you don't like its pricing you don't get? You keep telling more of the same all the time. It's not fast enough, it's damn too expensive, RTX is not implemented anywhere - I get it. I've seen this several thousand times already, mostly on WCCFTech. NVIDIA does not owe you anything. Build a successful GPU company or don't buy NVIDIA GPUs. OK? And keep downvoting me as if it makes your criticism any more valid.

What I see however is that people for some reasons believe that NVIDIA has to sell their GPUs for the prices the people find comfortable. This is not how this world works dammit. Even with communism.

I'm not buying any RTX card because I cannot afford them but that doesn't mean I'll keep complaining how NVIDIA is ripping everyone off. I simply do not care. I know for a fact that when and if AMD releases something competitive NVIDIA will have to lower the prices. I know for a fact that 12nm wasn't the process for this architecture but NVIDIA didn't want to wait for a year or more for the 7nm process to become economically suitable for their GPUs.

P.S. Don't forget to downvote this comment as well. I love hurting people's feelings when they lack grey matter in their brains.

Please use realistic counter-arguments, not the same "go make your own company" and "hurr durr communism" we've been hearing since the end of WW2. There are more than boolean options for everything.

almost 1080 performance,matches Vega 64 in BF1 dx12
this is really nice performance from the 2060

At this point, it looks like Linus has the best 2060 review, go figure...

CandymanGRYes, in Europe it will be around 100 euros more than the US dollar MSRP. For example, at launch the GTX 1060 was around 350 euros (the MSRP was 250$ for OEM and 299$ for F.E. ). So i guess this one would be around 450 euros. Thats too much for a middle range card!

Nvidia's msrp for RTX 2060 is 369€ in Deutchland and 385€ here in Finland. Of course there will be RTX 2060 cards priced as around 450€, but Most common ones should be under 400€.

yakkAt this point, it looks like Linus has the best 2060 review, go figure...

Good, now we need the 128-bit variant reviews.

XiGMAKiDGTX 960: $199
GTX 1060: $249
RTX 2060: $349
"No more cheap generational performance increase for you" - Huang, 2019

The RTX2060 Founder's Edition is $350. The regular versions will probably be $300. The GTX1060 Founder Edition also launched at $300 with a $250 MSRP for the regular versions.

There is no regular version. 350 is the only MSRP.

GoldenXGood, now we need the 128-bit variant reviews.

LoL...

Something tells me nvidia, and their AIBs, won't be in a hurry to show off low end SKUs of same name... would expect only a few reviews from daring reviewers who bought it themselves to get some type of exclusive at the risk of angering big green...

With the pathetic 6GB of vram this thing is a ripoff. 1070ti would be a better buy. At-least it improves on the 1060 though. The 960 wasn't significantly better than a 760.

Hm, I just went through the review at Anandtech, these cards offer essentially the performance of a Vega56 in gaming (they're weaker in compute) and cost significantly less. And they draw less power. And they have DXR. Yet almost 70% of the visitors voted "too expensive" :wtf:

bugHm, I just went through the review at Anandtech, these cards offer essentially the performance of a Vega56 in gaming (they're weaker in compute) and cost significantly less. Yet almost 70% of the visitors voted "too expensive" :wtf:

Vega56 should be $350 given it debuted at $399 in 2017. 2060 is $350. The 2060 only has 6GB of VRAM, its going to be bottlenecked by that small amount in just a few years for sure. You can find the 8GB 1070ti for around $350 right now.

VarioVega56 should be $350 given it debuted at $399 in 2017. 2060 is $350. The 2060 only has 6GB of VRAM, its going to be bottlenecked by that small amount in just a few years for sure. You can find the 8GB 1070ti for around $350 right now.

I looked it up on newegg: Vega 56 starts at $350 and there's only one PowerColor model to be had at this price. Meanwhile, $350 id for 2060 FE, which means we may see cards as "low" as $300 soonish.
6GB is enough for what the card can do. 3GB or possibly 4GB models will be a tougher sell, though. At the end of the day, yes, 6GB seems like the bare minimum at $300-350.
Then there's also this: www.techspot.com/news/78126-nvidia-might-paying-70-more-memory-rtx-cards.html
If there will be GDDR5 models down the road, those should be priced much more attractively.

Sapphire announced price reductions on their RX Vega cards, if you can find any.

And 6GB really isn't enough for cards in the $350 price range.

bugHm, I just went through the review at Anandtech, these cards offer essentially the performance of a Vega56 in gaming (they're weaker in compute) and cost significantly less. And they draw less power. And they have DXR. Yet almost 70% of the visitors voted "too expensive" :wtf:

This performs closer to a RTX 2070 than GTX 1060 did to GTX 1070, so the price is pretty much justified. This card has good value, in fact better value than what AMD is offering. And yet, certain people have problems dealing with the facts, which makes this product a good tool to expose people's bias :)

bugI looked it up on newegg: Vega 56 starts at $350 and there's only one PowerColor model to be had at this price. Meanwhile, $350 id for 2060 FE, which means we may see cards as "low" as $300 soonish.
6GB is enough for what the card can do. 3GB or possibly 4GB models will be a tougher sell, though. At the end of the day, yes, 6GB seems like the bare minimum at $300-350.
Then there's also this: www.techspot.com/news/78126-nvidia-might-paying-70-more-memory-rtx-cards.html
If there will be GDDR5 models down the road, those should be priced much more attractively.

Yea 6GB is fine if you play only at 1080P. For the price you are paying, it should be 8GB or more. People are starting to move to 4K and this is definitely not enough VRAM.

yakkSapphire announced price reductions on their RX Vega cards, if you can find any.

And 6GB really isn't enough for cards in the $350 price range.

What do you mean "isn't enough"? The cards are reaching Vega56 performance levels. With "only" 6GB.

VarioYea 6GB is fine if you play only at 1080P. For the price you are paying, it should be 8GB or more. People are starting to move to 4K and this is definitely not enough VRAM.

Wtf dude? It's been benchmarked at Anandtech, it does 1440p no problem and 4k if you turn down details. And you're sticking to "6GB is fine if you play only at 1080P"?

efikkanThis performs closer to a RTX 2070 than GTX 1060 did to GTX 1070, so the price is pretty much justified. This card has good value, in fact better value than what AMD is offering. And yet, certain people have problems dealing with the facts, which makes this product a good tool to expose people's bias :)

Which is why why I highlighted the poll results ;)

bugWhat do you mean "isn't enough"? The cards are reaching Vega56 performance levels. With "only" 6GB.


Wtf dude? It's been benchmarked at Anandtech, it does 1440p no problem and 4k if you turn down details. And you're sticking to "6GB is fine if you play only at 1080P"?

Cache hierarchy & bandwidth efficiency in Turing is > Pascal which is > Vega10 anyway. 6GB buffer will limit performance with demanding game asset data but DLSS algo instead of TAA/MSAA should help. Even with a 4k panel nothing stops you running 1440p gaming & you get free additional AA... ;)

bugHm, I just went through the review at Anandtech, these cards offer essentially the performance of a Vega56 in gaming (they're weaker in compute) and cost significantly less. And they draw less power. And they have DXR. Yet almost 70% of the visitors voted "too expensive" :wtf:

kings already summed it up pretty well:

kingsOf course we all want better prices, but... It's funny that a Vega 56 for $350~$400 is considered a great deal, but an RTX 2060 with the same performance for $350 is overpriced!

Internet logic! :laugh:

More like "AMD fanboy logic". Vega has never been a deal approaching "good" in any way shape or form.

yakkSapphire announced price reductions on their RX Vega cards, if you can find any.

Hmmm lemme see, which one should I buy... the older, hotter, card that I literally cannot buy because there is no stock... or the newer card that I can get right now and comes with a free game that I can sell to recover some of the cost? Tough decision.

yakkAnd 6GB really isn't enough for cards in the $350 price range.

[citation needed]

I have yet to play a game on my GTX 1070 that uses anywhere NEAR 8GB of VRAM, in fact the highest I think I've seen it go is slightly over 4GB - and I play everything at 1440p. For 4k I imagine 6GB will be more than sufficient, but even so, the RTX 2060 isn't intended to be a 4k card. NVIDIA made absolutely the right call of 6GB VRAM for a mid-range product.

If NVIDIA releases a GDDR5(X) version of the 2060, it will absolutely destroy anything and everything AMD has to offer in terms of both price and performance.

If you don't like it then don't buy it. Stop complaining about things you can't control and do the things you can.