Monday, June 10th 2019

AMD Readies Ryzen 9 3950X 16-core Processor to Awestrike Crowds at E3

When AMD launched its Ryzen 9 3900X 12-core/24-thread processor at its Computex 2019 keynote, our readers commented on the notable absence of a 16-core SKU, given that a "Matisse" multi-chip module with two 8-core "Zen 2" chiplets adds up to that core-count. Some readers noted this could be a case of AMD holding back its top performing part in the absence of competition in the segment from Intel. It turns out, the company was saving this part up for an E3 2019 unveiling.

The Ryzen 9 3950X maxes out "Matisse" MCM with 16 cores, 32 threads via SMT, a staggering 64 MB of L3 cache (72 MB including the 8 MB of total L2 cache), and a stunning 105-Watt TDP figure that's unchanged from the company's TDP for the 3900X. The Ryzen 9 3950X is clocked at 3.50 GHz, with a maximum boost frequency of 4.70 GHz. The company is yet to reveal its price, but given that the $499 price-tag has already been taken by the 3900X, one could expect an even higher price. It remains to be seen if the 3950X will launch alongside the rest of the series on 7/7.
Source: VideoCardz
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90 Comments on AMD Readies Ryzen 9 3950X 16-core Processor to Awestrike Crowds at E3

#51
Testsubject01
TheMadDutchDudeIt's not like the stream is over yet... and you have to remember, they will want to hold this chip back until Intel tries a desperate ploy to claw back at gamers. At that point, they can unleash the true 16 core chip to just keep them ahead. Calm down, and think of this from a business perspective. It's more thought out than that.

There's a surprise... here it comes...?

THERE IT IS!
Ryzen 9 3950X for 749$ and "The entire lineup [Ryzen 3000 / Radeon 5700 shown on screen] will be available on shelf worldwide! 7th July!"
AMD Next Horizon Gaming E3 2019 @ 01:33:16

Can't wait for the Reviews and Benchmarks!

Edit: Double checked Stream
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#52
Fluffmeister
Midland Dogin 10 years time we might not be using sillicon anymore
Which begs the question... what will fake boobs feel like then ?
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#53
SL2
I think it's September.
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#54
TheMadDutchDude
That's old ...?

Lisa just confirmed that they will all be available on 7/7.
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#55
SL2
TheMadDutchDudeThat's old ...?
No, how could it be old if they just launched it? Look and listen for yourself..
It's clear she forgot about the 3950X in the end when she said July later on.
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#56
Darmok N Jalad
Other sites say the 3950X won't be ready until September. Probably why they didn't announce it with the rest of the lineup. Certainly suggests that they are binning the best chiplets to the higher margin product--EPYC. Makes me wonder if there will even be a follow up to Threadripper?
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#59
thebluebumblebee
TheMadDutchDudeThat's old ...?
MatsNo, how could it be old if they just launched it?
Auto correct? Old for odd?
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#60
danbert2000
I'm guessing that this thing will break 200 W easily if PBO is enabled. I think it's smart for them to limit the chips to a reasonable TDP unless you activate PBO or manually overclock. For the average user, this will give the best experience. I'd much rather have some enthusiasts changing settings than a layperson who bought a prebuilt dealing with thermal issues. Honestly, I think 16 cores is a vanity spec. I'd much rather get the 12 core and have higher multi-core clocks out of the box.
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#61
matar
Good bye intel after 20 years I will divorce you, welcome AMD 3950X.
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#62
SL2
Divide OverflowLaunch and availability can be completely different things.
As in different things for the same lineup? I don't think so.

We know that all the other models will be available 7/7.
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#63
TheMadDutchDude
I missed that part of the conference. Damn! September is still awesome, though!
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#65
EarthDog
danbert2000I'm guessing that this thing will break 200 W easily if PBO is enabled. I think it's smart for them to limit the chips to a reasonable TDP unless you activate PBO or manually overclock. For the average user, this will give the best experience. I'd much rather have some enthusiasts changing settings than a layperson who bought a prebuilt dealing with thermal issues. Honestly, I think 16 cores is a vanity spec. I'd much rather get the 12 core and have higher multi-core clocks out of the box.
did they break down the boost and thread count?
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#66
Wavetrex
Their TDP ratings are very fishy.
How is it possible that a CPU with 8 cores have the same TDP in the same generation as one with 16 cores?

I guess reviews will tell, until then it looks extremely unusual.
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#67
Darmok N Jalad
WavetrexTheir TDP ratings are very fishy.
How is it possible that a CPU with 8 cores have the same TDP in the same generation as one with 16 cores?

I guess reviews will tell, until then it looks extremely unusual.
Possibly just great binning. The CCXs aren’t really the most consuming part of the chip, it’s the Infinity Fabric. Maybe the change in design allows them to add cores more easily while maintaining a power budget. Also, consider that many lower-level CPUs have a generic TDP rating that they never come close to reaching. The TDP is often used as a rating for spec’ing proper cooling. I really get the impression that there’s more clock room in Zen 2, and so long as AMD stays under a certain speed, they have really good efficiency.
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#68
R0H1T
WavetrexTheir TDP ratings are very fishy.
How is it possible that a CPU with 8 cores have the same TDP in the same generation as one with 16 cores?
Same way Intel went from 4c to 8c at nearly the same TDP.
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#69
TheLostSwede
News Editor
WavetrexTheir TDP ratings are very fishy.
How is it possible that a CPU with 8 cores have the same TDP in the same generation as one with 16 cores?

I guess reviews will tell, until then it looks extremely unusual.
You mean exactly like Intel has between it's CPUs? Or the fact that an Intel 8 core has lower TDP than an Intel 6 core?
ark.intel.com/content/www/us/en/ark/compare.html?productIds=191792,191789,186605,186604,134896,134900
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#70
R-T-B
EarthDogAwestrike.....w.t.h?
Sounds like the name of a new warhead...
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#71
Tomorrow
WavetrexTheir TDP ratings are very fishy.
How is it possible that a CPU with 8 cores have the same TDP in the same generation as one with 16 cores?

I guess reviews will tell, until then it looks extremely unusual.
TDP is based on base clock and since 3950X's baseclock is lowest among Zen2 models thus they can claim 105W.
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#72
Xzibit
Word from the press briefing before E3 presentation is that AMD ran the CPU comparisons

Intel = No mitigation
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#73
Manu_PT
I think the 3900x and the 3950x are the big news on here. Not that impressed with the 3800x 8c/16t CPUs because they don´t seem that much cheaper, if we compare how R5 1600 completly obliterated the 7600k for less price and with 3 times (!!!) more threads.

Now my question is wether these TDP figures and performance are something to get excited about or not. Gotta wait for independent reviews to see the clear picture. I think they hide a lot of games from the 1080p comparasions to make it look better than what it is. Like using Black Ops 3 or Devil May Cry is weird... no one cares about 200fps on those games. Wanted to see Battlefield or Escape from Takov wich are really demanding on the CPU and where intel currently crushes AMD.

Also curious about overclocking capabilities, because if only the most expensive chips can reach really high clocks, that´s bad. But let´s see what´s coming.
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#74
hat
Enthusiast
Not sure if we need 16 cores in a desktop chip. 4 still does okay, 6 seems to be the sweet spot, and 8 is top end/overkill, unless you actually use HEDT programs.
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#75
R0H1T
XzibitWord from the press briefing before E3 presentation is that AMD ran the CPU comparisons

Intel = No mitigation
Great if true, however all OS & BIOS mitigations should be enabled by default. I wouldn't go out to my way to disable HT, however I'll also not disable the latest security patches & I suspect most users are that way.
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