I can't say I approve of the proprietary fan, but the mounting mechanism looks okay and Arctic's coolers have always been decent budget options.

So AC again with the AMD or Intel only coolers. I wonder if it has something to do with some of the last models receiving bad critics.
I am still using a socket 939 (s754 too?) Freezer 64 Pro with my Ryzen. Yes, it works perfectly with AM4. I bought it in 2006 I think.

FergutorSo AC again with the AMD or Intel only coolers. I wonder if it has something to do with some of the last models receiving bad critics.
I am still using a socket 939 (s754 too?) Freezer 64 Pro with my Ryzen. Yes, it works perfectly with AM4. I bought it in 2006 I think.

so the old freezers will work with AM4 if you don't remove the mounts from the factory for the wraith? The reason I ask is I have one on my desk. I wonder if its better than the factory cooler.

trt740so the old freezers will work with AM4 if you don't remove the mounts from the factory for the wraith? The reason I ask is I have one on my desk. I wonder if its better than the factory cooler.

IME they're always better than stock coolers. Lower temps, lowers noise. Even if they can't compete with the top-end solutions.

I like the fact that the AM4 option is ever so slightly cheaper :D

maxitaxi96I like the fact that the AM4 option is ever so slightly cheaper :D

AM4 motherboards include a backplate and four mounting posts already, so it should be cheaper!

Since there are Intel and AMD specific variants here, I'm a little disappointed that the AMD model doesn't work with the AM4 retention bracket, OR directly with the backplate.

Intel's push-pin is quick and easy but also rather completely frickin' usless for anything except the garbage-tier Intel coolers.

bugIME they're always better than stock coolers. Lower temps, lowers noise. Even if they can't compete with the top-end solutions.

In some reviews yeah, but some others compare the sound volume. In that case, it looks better than the top end coolers. I think we are very near the air drag limit of air coolers. Arctic's expertise of meeting the requirement with just the right amount, might amount to something.

If ever there was an elegant cooler, I think it carries this badge.

trt740so the old freezers will work with AM4 if you don't remove the mounts from the factory for the wraith? The reason I ask is I have one on my desk. I wonder if its better than the factory cooler.

Sorry didn't see your post. Yes, I'm using that one, fits perfectly with the MSI B350 Tomahawk. It only grabs the mount by one protrusion on each side, when the cooler has 3 holes each side for the S754 and s939 that had 3 or 4 protrusions. So it depends on pressure alone to stay in its place and that pressure seems to be fine. Now I also tried the heatsink from an Opteron 165 on a Gigabyte A320M-S2H and that was scary: too much pressure. And when I tried to take it out I simply couldn't, so I had to wear one mounting protrusion to take out the heatsink's holder. I really thought I messed things up becasue there was no way to take that out of there, the pressure was very high and to take it out I had to produce even more pressure, so I feared the plastic mount or the mother or something was going to snap. Scary moment. There are differences between the two heatsink's mount parts, and the one from the Opteron seems to be narrower but sturdier compared to the one from the Freezer. BTW, I only installed the Opteron's heatsink and removed immediately after taking photos because of the pressure, so I didn't tested it, I used the Wraith Spire until I changed motherboard.
So be careful it may or may not fit.
I took some photos then:

bugIME they're always better than stock coolers. Lower temps, lowers noise. Even if they can't compete with the top-end solutions.

Sadly, I didn't tested if at least the Freezer 64 Pro was better than the Wraith Spire with vapor chamber and low noise high presure fan that came with the first Ryzens (now the Spire is an all-aluminum block with a faster straighter noisier fan). And about noise...I think the Spire is quieter. I think the Spire was going 800RPM minimum while the Freezer 64 Pro is above 1000RPM and at maximum speed the Spire went above 2000RPM while the Freezer rarely goes above 1800 RPM. The type of noise is different too. One thng about the Spire was that it kicked fast while the Freezer speeds up slowly.
If I had a better case I would have tested but is an old Cooler Master that doesn't even have cable management possibilities (and I don't have much care...), but especially doesn't have a hole behind the motherboard, so I can't remove the mount without removing the whole motherboard. If I change the case before changing processor I will try to test which one's better (I bet Freezer is a bit cooler while the spire is quieter).
Here are some more photos comparing the Spire with the old Opty cooler and one other photo:

FergutorSorry didn't see your post. Yes, I'm using that one, fits perfectly with the MSI B350 Tomahawk. It only grabs the mount by one protrusion on each side, when the cooler has 3 holes each side for the S754 and s939 that had 3 or 4 protrusions. So it depends on pressure alone to stay in its place and that pressure seems to be fine. Now I also tried the heatsink from an Opteron 165 on a Gigabyte A320M-S2H and that was scary: too much pressure. And when I tried to take it out I simply couldn't, so I had to wear one mounting protrusion to take out the heatsink's holder. I really thought I messed things up becasue there was no way to take that out of there, the pressure was very high and to take it out I had to produce even more pressure, so I feared the plastic mount or the mother or something was going to snap. Scary moment. There are differences between the two heatsink's mount parts, and the one from the Opteron seems to be narrower but sturdier compared to the one from the Freezer. BTW, I only installed the Opteron's heatsink and removed immediately after taking photos because of the pressure, so I didn't tested it, I used the Wraith Spire until I changed motherboard.
So be careful it may or may not fit.
I took some photos then:



Sadly, I didn't tested if at least the Freezer 64 Pro was better than the Wraith Spire with vapor chamber and low noise high presure fan that came with the first Ryzens (now the Spire is an all-aluminum block with a faster straighter noisier fan). And about noise...I think the Spire is quieter. I think the Spire was going 800RPM minimum while the Freezer 64 Pro is above 1000RPM and at maximum speed the Spire went above 2000RPM while the Freezer rarely goes above 1800 RPM. The type of noise is different too. One thng about the Spire was that it kicked fast while the Freezer speeds up slowly.
If I had a better case I would have tested but is an old Cooler Master that doesn't even have cable management possibilities (and I don't have much care...), but especially doesn't have a hole behind the motherboard, so I can't remove the mount without removing the whole motherboard. If I change the case before changing processor I will try to test which one's better (I bet Freezer is a bit cooler while the spire is quieter).
Here are some more photos comparing the Spire with the old Opty cooler and one other photo:

I put the 10 year old Freezer 64 pro from my desk onto my sons Ryzen 3200g 4 core cpu. As you said it clips to the single claws on each side as did the old AMD stock coolers. It is rated for 130 watt Cpus and does a much better job cooling than the Wraith Stealth that my son had on the CPU appears to be 10c cooler under load. Also It does not blow down onto the Cpu and motherboard but instead blow from front to back which does not interrupt the flow of air from front to back inside the case. My son just ordered a 3700x 8 core Cpu, and I wonder which cooler will perform better the Wraith Prism or my old trusty Freezer 64 Pro. I bet the 64 pro what do you think? I think with greater heat the 64 pro will destroy the Stealth and match or beat the Prism. The 3700x is a 65 watt cpu so it should be fine either way. Also to me the Freezer is super quiet even at max speed.

trt740I put the 10 year old Freezer 64 pro from my desk onto my sons Ryzen 3200g 4 core cpu. As you said it clips to the single claws on each side as did the old AMD stock coolers. It is rated for 130 watt Cpus and does a much better job cooling than the Wraith Stealth that my son had on the CPU appears to be 10c cooler under load. Also It does not blow down onto the Cpu and motherboard but instead blow from front to back which does not interrupt the flow of air from front to back inside the case. My son just ordered a 3700x 8 core Cpu, and I wonder which cooler will perform better the Wraith Prism or my old trusty Freezer 64 Pro. I bet the 64 pro what do you think? I think with greater heat the 64 pro will destroy the Stealth and match or beat the Prism. The 3700x is a 65 watt cpu so it should be fine either way. Also to me the Freezer is super quiet even at max speed.

130W? Where do you get that number? Don't tell in me box as I had it in my hands yesterday and didn't thought of reading it haha.
I would prefer it blowing to the motherboard as that would cool the VRMs better, on the other hand yes, it would not do good things to the aiflow. The freezer 64 Pro had the bottom fins pointed "downwards" to direct air to the VRMs...but given the fan is so little, I don't think they work. I want to replace it with a good 120mm fan, that will make a much beter job and make less noise (not that it makes a lot, now here in winter it doesn't go above 1300RPM with Primr95 and is inaudible, but in summer it can go up to 1900 easily, and now I'm not so sure if the Spire of this one is noisier, I think this one but...I have to test again which I doubt I will do as I'm selling this R5 1600).
I read that the Prism is close to some of the CM 212 versions, don't ask me which one. I can only guess the freezer 64 Pro is worse. Add to that that is old and, well, I don't know if true, but supposedly the heatpipes get worse with time.
I just made a short test here with the case semi-open prime95 v29.1b14 small FFTs, Ryzen oced to 3700Mhz @1.216v (according to HWiNFO64) and it got to 63ºC and the Freezer got to less than 1300RPM, room temperature is like 17ºC. Motherboard VRMs got to 66ºC.
And about my OC 3.8Ghz is the maximum stable I got, beyond that everything gets too hot and consumes a lot of power. And given the performance scaling with frecuency of this processor sucks, I don't have reason to really put any more effort to get beyond 3.7Ghz in which the consumption is reasonable and doesn't get too hot in winter. 3.6Ghz in summer.

On their website says 150 watt and on tech specs in another site I saw 200 watt dissipation. Old Amd and intel chips got hot as heck.

trt740Old Amd and intel chips got hot as heck.

...not that much.

trt740On their website says 150 watt and on tech specs in another site I saw 200 watt dissipation.

That's it! I'm going to buy a 3950x and use the Freezer! With OC! :D

But the 130w figure?
Oh I found this, only this is a bit newer version www.amazon.co.uk/Arctic-Cooling-Freezer-Pro-Cooler/dp/B000MM0LT6
And www.amazon.com/Arctic-Freezer-Socket-Copper-Aluminum/dp/B000CNE06K
In the last says both 115W and 130W...also one reviewer says the Phenom 6 core overclocked is too much for this one
Aah there was a review from Frostytech that I remember was one very important I read at the time of buying the Freezer, in 2006, but It seems the review page doesn't exist anymore (so much for "everything stays on the web forever"...).

Well, sure it's enough for todays low TDP non HEDT cpus even with OC.

For craps and giggles ran prime95 on the Arctic Cooler 64 pro and my sons Ryzen 3200g . The 3200g hits 4.0ghz on its boost has, 4 cores and is 64 watt. I ran it for about 7 minutes not to get crazy because his board is a budget board. Plus nothing will ever max out your cores 24/7 like prime will. The max it hit in a hot room with a closed case (all metal) with two 120mm fans was 65c. Seems decent to me. Granted it is not the 8 core beast he has on the way but still not bad for a very old cooler. Oh, fan was on max and still very quiet and to tell the truth the fan is small. Im really amazed at how well they designed this cooler. It is not very big compared to a lot of coolers out there.

Also If you guys remember the old Intel Prescott it got hot hot.

trt740For craps and giggles ran prime95 on the Arctic Cooler 64 pro and my sons Ryzen 3200g . The 3200g hits 4.0ghz on its boost has, 4 cores and is 64 watt. I ran it for about 7 minutes not to get crazy because his board is a budget board. Plus nothing will ever max out your cores 24/7 like prime will. The max it hit in a hot room with a closed case (all metal) with two 120mm fans was 65c. Seems decent to me. Granted it is not the 8 core beast he has on the way but still not bad for a very old cooler. Oh, fan was on max and still very quiet and to tell the truth the fan is small. Im really amazed at how well they designed this cooler. It is not very big compared to a lot of coolers out there.

Also If you guys remember the old Intel Prescott it got hot hot.

-Move!-
-What are you doing dad?-
-Get out, I'm burning your computer!-
-What?! No!-
-Shut up!!-
-But I was...!-
-S T F U!!!!!!-
- :( -
-Oh yeah...yeah...burn MF BUUURRRN!!!! ...meh 65ºC, you were lucky today, boy. Next time you'll see how VRMs burn! MUAAAHAHHA!!!-

65ºC at 4Ghz is nice. Don't hesitate on showing the results with the 3700X!!!! And if you can compare with the included Prism even better!

Fergutor-Move!-
-What are you doing dad?-
-Get out, I'm burning your computer!-
-What?! No!-
-Shut up!!-
-But I was...!-
-S T F U!!!!!!-
- :( -
-Oh yeah...yeah...burn MF BUUURRRN!!!! ...meh 65ºC, you were lucky today, boy. Next time you'll see how VRMs burn! MUAAAHAHHA!!!-

65ºC at 4Ghz is nice. Don't hesitate on showing the results with the 3700X!!!! And if you can compare with the included Prism even better!

*Duke Nukem voice* Burn baby, burn...

Yep almost word for word caught me in his room while he was at a small socially distant gathering. Did test the Prism cooler with his 3700x that he just bought and it hit 68 gaming all day on Rust. The Prism is a decent cooler not a big fan of the Rainbow colors that he can’t change. No more headers left. However, thats the best stock cooler I have seen in a long time. He wont let me play anymore so back to the shelf 64 pro.

Fergutor...not that much.


That's it! I'm going to buy a 3950x and use the Freezer! With OC! :D

But the 130w figure?
Oh I found this, only this is a bit newer version www.amazon.co.uk/Arctic-Cooling-Freezer-Pro-Cooler/dp/B000MM0LT6
And www.amazon.com/Arctic-Freezer-Socket-Copper-Aluminum/dp/B000CNE06K
In the last says both 115W and 130W...also one reviewer says the Phenom 6 core overclocked is too much for this one
Aah there was a review from Frostytech that I remember was one very important I read at the time of buying the Freezer, in 2006, but It seems the review page doesn't exist anymore (so much for "everything stays on the web forever"...).

Well, sure it's enough for todays low TDP non HEDT cpus even with OC.

Yup :)

trt740Yep almost word for word caught me in his room while he was at a small socially distant gathering. Did test the Prism cooler with his 3700x that he just bought and it hit 68 gaming all day on Rust. The Prism is a decent cooler not a big fan of the Rainbow colors that he can’t change. No more headers left. However, thats the best stock cooler I have seen in a long time. He wont let my play anymore so back to the shelf 64 pro

HAHAHA!!
That must have been awkward haha.
This is my plan for you: tell him that if he let you test you will buy him the best thermal paste out there to replace once you're finished (not the liquid metal, that thing is dangerous). Tell him this is for science!!!

ARFYup :)

Yeah, 200W... they were like "130W is very similar to 150W which is just an optimistic step to 200W...and we are optimistic! 200W!!" (ok I'll stop with the bad infantile jokes...)
Weird stuff, probably is not a figure that is simple to measure; or probably they f-up at some point with the specs...On the other hand the Freezer 13, Freezer 7, the newer Freezer 64 Pro and the older Freezer 64 Pro are almost the same cooler (and probably some other models).

FergutorHAHAHA!!
That must have been awkward haha.
This is my plan for you: tell him that if he let you test you will buy him the best thermal paste out there to replace once you're finished (not the liquid metal, that thing is dangerous). Tell him this is for science!!!



Yeah, 200W... they were like "130W is very similar to 150W which is just an optimistic step to 200W...and we are optimistic! 200W!!" (ok I'll stop with the bad infantile jokes...)
Weird stuff, probably is not a figure that is simple to measure; or probably they f-up at some point with the specs...On the other hand the Freezer 13, Freezer 7, the newer Freezer 64 Pro and the older Freezer 64 Pro are almost the same cooler (and probably some other models).

Well, I have always wondered if there is some specific design / arrangement of the aluminum fins, so that the heatsink becomes super efficient and better than the others.
Maybe that's it:


www.arctic.ac/eu_en/freezer-13.html

Chrispy_I can't say I approve of the proprietary fan, but the mounting mechanism looks okay and Arctic's coolers have always been decent budget options.

Zip ties :).

FergutorHAHAHA!!
That must have been awkward haha.
This is my plan for you: tell him that if he let you test you will buy him the best thermal paste out there to replace once you're finished (not the liquid metal, that thing is dangerous). Tell him this is for science!!!



Yeah, 200W... they were like "130W is very similar to 150W which is just an optimistic step to 200W...and we are optimistic! 200W!!" (ok I'll stop with the bad infantile jokes...)
Weird stuff, probably is not a figure that is simple to measure; or probably they f-up at some point with the specs...On the other hand the Freezer 13, Freezer 7, the newer Freezer 64 Pro and the older Freezer 64 Pro are almost the same cooler (and probably some other models).

It is more about heat density transmittance. Old cpus did not have these localized heat pockets

ARFWell, I have always wondered if there is some specific design / arrangement of the aluminum fins, so that the heatsink becomes super efficient and better than the others.
Maybe that's it:


www.arctic.ac/eu_en/freezer-13.html

Look at the heatpipes, they aren't crimped. Arctic and thermalright as far as I know have mastery in this heatpipe manipulation.

ARFWell, I have always wondered if there is some specific design / arrangement of the aluminum fins, so that the heatsink becomes super efficient and better than the others.
Maybe that's it:


www.arctic.ac/eu_en/freezer-13.html

Everything I owned from Arctic has been very, very quiet. They're also pretty light and usually under $50. Perfect for what I need.

ARFWell, I have always wondered if there is some specific design / arrangement of the aluminum fins, so that the heatsink becomes super efficient and better than the others.
Maybe that's it:


www.arctic.ac/eu_en/freezer-13.html

I like the 13 it has one more heat pipe I think than the 64 pro.

mtcn77It is more about heat density transmittance. Old cpus did not have these localized heat pockets

The thing is the different figures, what is the real maximum TDP "allowed" for this cpu cooler...I even read 115Watts apart from the other 3...
This cooler has a very small contact surface anyway. And the old cpus this was designed for (S754-939) were like the new ones in which they had a die and a IHS. And not only that but the size was very similar if not almost the same.