Wednesday, August 5th 2020

AMD Introduces Two New 6 W Dual Core Zen Processors

AMD has quietly added two new mobile processors to its lineup, the AMD 3015e and AMD 3020e are 6 W dual-core Zen chips with Vega 3 graphics. The AMD 3015e features dual 14 nm Zen cores with multi-threading running at a base frequency of 1200 MHz with a turbo frequency of 2300 MHz. The onboard Vega 3 GPU runs at 600 MHz and the chip can support 1600 MHz DDR4 memory. The AMD 3020e keeps the same dual 14 nm Zen cores but loses multi-threading, the base clock remains the same at 1200 MHz but the turbo frequency gets a bump to 2600 MHz. The Vega 3 GPU also gets a boost to 1000 MHz along with the addition of 2400 MHz DDR4 memory support.

Lenovo has recently unveiled two new laptops utilizing the AMD 3015e, the Lenovo 100e 2nd Gen and 300e 2nd Gen. The Lenovo 100e 2nd Gen features 4 GB DDR4 memory, 64 GB eMMC, Wi-Fi 6, 11.6" 720p screen, and runs Windows 10. The Lenovo 300e 2nd Gen has a similar build with the addition of a 360° hinge, pen support, and optional 128 GB SSD. The new AMD 3015e processor found in the laptops should perform ~20% faster than the Intel Celeron N4120. The Lenovo 100e 2nd Gen and 300e 2nd Gen will be available in September for 219 USD and 299 USD respectively.
Source: AnandTech
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27 Comments on AMD Introduces Two New 6 W Dual Core Zen Processors

#2
Caring1
Netbook level of speed.
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#3
Nephilim666
Awesome, almost as fast as a raspberry pi.
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Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
2c/4t is just fine. 2c without SMT though ... Will be interesting to see some real life tests. Remember the Intel equivalents are Kaby Lake and has lower clocks and in some cases no boost. There are ≥ Coffee Lake CPUs around the same TDP but the list price on those CPUs are higher than the entire laptops mentioned here.
LionheartOne word, Gross xD
Not really. Note how you get a whole laptop for less than most components in your system.
Caring1Netbook level of speed.
No. These won't be speed monsters but they will be way more usable than the early netbooks, which always sucked.
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#5
n-ster
Not a fan of disabling SMT on a dual core, especially on a higher named chip (3020 vs 3015), and 1600Mhz DDR4 limit is also very restrictive. Why do they have to make it confusing for customers??
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#6
_Flare
there are 3015e 3020e (and the 3050e wich is called Athlon Silver) all 6W
the 3015e seems to use FT5 Socket and only single-channel of RAM 1600 MHz wich the OPN approves. It uses lower clocks for CPU upto 2.3 GHz and GPU 600 MHz but has SMT.
the 3020e and 3050e use FP5 Socket and dual-channel 2400 MHz, former 2Threads upto 2.6 GHz, latter upto 2.8 GHz 4 Threads and both 1000 MHz GPU clock.
www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-3015e
www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-3020e
www.amd.com/en/products/apu/amd-athlon-silver-3050e
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#7
blazed
As far as gaming is concerned, this kind of sounds like it would have the power of a laptop with an HD620 mobile, but at the price of an N4000 laptop with an HD600, which sounds alright. You can't get much cheaper than this and it might run some things alright. Certainly better than a Pi.
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#8
Steevo
n-sterNot a fan of disabling SMT on a dual core, especially on a higher named chip (3020 vs 3015), and 1600Mhz DDR4 limit is also very restrictive. Why do they have to make it confusing for customers??
The target for these is a board with soldered in chips, so consumers won't be adding anything.
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#9
Valantar
SteevoThe target for these is a board with soldered in chips, so consumers won't be adding anything.
No, but it is confusing by itself that in this case higher number =/= better. Not that it ought to matter much in these price categories though. Should certainly make for some very impressive ~$200 laptops in a little while!
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#10
BiggieShady
Cheap HTPC in a HDMI stick? AMD flavored compute stick? Power envelope is 6W after all, now can it consume netflix at 4K?
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#11
_JP_
AMD E1/E2 processors all over again...
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#12
ShurikN
That 300e would be a perfect replacement for my atom based Asus Transformer.
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#13
Imsochobo
Nephilim666Awesome, almost as fast as a raspberry pi.
I think you severely overestimate arm and raspberry pi 4.
this would be quite a lot faster..
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Fishfaced Nincompoop
_JP_AMD E1/E2 processors all over again...
Far from it.
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Chrispy_
These things are great.

They're AMD Dali dies, right? Teeny-weeny pint-sized versions of Raven Ridge, since there weren't enough bad Raven Ridge dies to cut down from 4C/Vega11 to 2C/Vega3. AMD just straight up made a diddy version that's only 2C/Vega3 in the silicon and I'm guessing 6W are the best yields of these.

I know they're not going to set the gaming world on fire but you'd be amazed how many people are getting along just fine with Sandy/Ivy i3 laptops today. It'll handle browser stuff, an office suite, maybe play back some Netflix. Now imagine that in just 6 Watts and at nearly disposable pricing.

To put it into context, the Cherry-trail Atoms were still a thing only a couple of years ago and most of those were in the 2-4W range. I have one in the kitchen for recipes and watching TV when I'm cooking. It's slow but not unusably so - web pages take a couple if seconds to load instead of being almost instant and it can only really handle one youtube stream at a time, but it was an entire touchscreen PC with a Win10 home license for £80, which I think is less than the retail price of Win10 home by itself....
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#17
Valantar
Chrispy_These things are great.

They're AMD Dali dies, right? Teeny-weeny pint-sized versions of Raven Ridge, since there weren't enough bad Raven Ridge dies to cut down from 4C/Vega11 to 2C/Vega3. AMD just straight up made a diddy version that's only 2C/Vega3 in the silicon and I'm guessing 6W are the best yields of these.

I know they're not going to set the gaming world on fire but you'd be amazed how many people are getting along just fine with Sandy/Ivy i3 laptops today. It'll handle browser stuff, an office suite, maybe play back some Netflix. Now imagine that in just 6 Watts and at nearly disposable pricing.

To put it into context, the Cherry-trail Atoms were still a thing only a couple of years ago and most of those were in the 2-4W range. I have one in the kitchen for recipes and watching TV when I'm cooking. It's sloowwww but it was an entire touchscreen PC with a Win10 home license for £80, which I think is less than the retail price of Win10 Home by itself....
If one of these shows up in a $2-300 convertible/2-in-1 I might get one just for convenience, at least as long as it has a good enough display to serve as a tablet for basic use.
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Fishfaced Nincompoop
Chrispy_I know they're not going to set the gaming world on fire but you'd be amazed how many people are getting along just fine with Sandy/Ivy i3 laptops today. It'll handle browser stuff, an office suite, maybe play back some Netflix. Now imagine that in just 6 Watts and at nearly disposable pricing.
My laptop in sig has an Ivy i3 and for daily use it's identical to the 2600x desktop.
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#19
Chrispy_
FrickMy laptop in sig has an Ivy i3 and for daily use it's identical to the 2600x desktop.
Well, definitely not identical, but you mean it's fast enough for the stuff you do with it that you can't tell the difference?

I mean looking at your sig, I bet even the C2D is doing okay thanks to the SSD upgrade and bloat-free OS?
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Frick
Fishfaced Nincompoop
Chrispy_Well, definitely not identical, but you mean it's fast enough for the stuff you do with it that you can't tell the difference?
Yes.
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#21
Valantar
Chrispy_Well, definitely not identical, but you mean it's fast enough for the stuff you do with it that you can't tell the difference?

I mean looking at your sig, I bet even the C2D is doing okay thanks to the SSD upgrade and bloat-free OS?
It's still just three years ago when the only PCs I had access to were a desktop with a C2Q Q9450 and an i5-520m laptop. With SSDs and Windows 10, both were perfectly usable (the laptop felt a bit slow, but was fine overall, the desktop was pretty quick when OC'd). There's still a lot that can be done with low power hardware, though lacking hardware decoding for modern video codecs and the like can be really annoying.
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#22
Chrispy_
ValantarIt's still just three years ago when the only PCs I had access to were a desktop with a C2Q Q9450 and an i5-520m laptop. With SSDs and Windows 10, both were perfectly usable (the laptop felt a bit slow, but was fine overall, the desktop was pretty quick when OC'd). There's still a lot that can be done with low power hardware, though lacking hardware decoding for modern video codecs and the like can be really annoying.
agreed. x265 on a cherry trail atom simply isn't happening.
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#23
ARF
How does it compare performance and power consumption to Snapdragon 865?
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#24
Valantar
ARFHow does it compare performance and power consumption to Snapdragon 865?
I guess we will/might see if/when these ever arrive on devices with similar enough OSes to run the same benchmarks? Cross-architecture benchmarking on different OSes is always somewhat sketchy unless you really know what you are doing and take extreme measures like compile your own benchmarks.
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#25
_JP_
FrickFar from it.
Early to call on the support that will be given to them, granted though from the past we've learnt a lot, but since bobcat, to have a severely cut-down capacity to address multiple threads is something 2020 should not have to witness in laptops, unless said cores bend time shuffling electrons. Those 2,6GHz ain't going to help the 2c/2t 3020e go anywhere.
This is just telling Intel that Atoms and Celerons are still okay...
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