billEST50mH its not very good .. its not the same 5700 XT ?

It's 45MH/s, which is 2MH/s more than my RTX2070.

To be honest, these numbers look odd to me, maybe these dies are limited some way? The 90HX is obviously the 3080, and is unlimited, but what the others really are and perform like is a mystery to me.

Things are getting better and better. Several reliable leaks came out on 6700XT pricing... AMD was first considering no MSRP at all but then settled for $479 to $499 (still not decided yet between the two). How FU is it that GPU build on 'Polaris size' mature 7nm die more than doubled in price in just 4 years time? This is not stagnation, this is price to performance regression committed by both parties and this mining exclusive GPUs are here to make sure that product shortage persist even after mining craze collapses. That's what you get when you have de facto monopoly and do nothing about it.

RedelZaVednoThings are getting better and better. Several reliable leaks came out on 6700XT pricing... AMD was first considering no MSRP at all but then settled for $479 to $499 (still not decided yet between the two). How FU is it that GPU build on 'Polaris size' mature 7nm die more than doubled in price in just 4 years time? This is not stagnation, this is price to performance regression committed by both parties and this mining exclusive GPUs are here to make sure that product shortage persist even after mining craze collapses. That's what you get when you have de facto monopoly and do nothing about it.

Uhm:

Now to compare this with reality when it comes to AMD cards (I don't even want to bother with RTX):

Lowest - $1650

There's no point in discussing "MSRP"

"will likely restrict GPU supply if the cryptocurrency boom continues."

NVIDIA are using Ampere, because they care more about gamers than making money. /s

Nobody's mentioned yet that the driver block put in place to nerf the hashrate only applies to Etherium. Every other type of CC mining runs at full rate, regardless. Etherium hasn't been the most profitable CC for Nvidia mining for some time now - Ravencoin and Zcoin are both significantly better.

This is 100% a token-gesture by Nvidia to make it look like they're "tackling the problem" which they are not. They're actively making it worse....

Clearly Nvidia is considering cryptomining on older cards. Second half means getting enough stock. so 5nm must be closer than we think. Bring the 4070/4080/4090 with 90% nerf on. yeah. Mining will be dead by the end of the year just like last time. so too late.

Chrispy_Nobody's mentioned yet that the driver block put in place to nerf the hashrate only applies to Etherium. Every other type of CC mining runs at full rate, regardless. Etherium hasn't been the most profitable CC for Nvidia mining for some time now - Ravencoin and Zcoin are both significantly better.

This is 100% a token-gesture by Nvidia to make it look like they're "tackling the problem" which they are not. They're actively making it worse....

I was wondering about that. Reviews will tell us for sure if the block applies to more algorithms.

Also, there could be false positives and then there's the whole legal/moral grey area of NVIDIA restricting what you can do with a product that you legally bought.

yes, they are making it worse. when 3060 drops 50%, supposedly power also drops to 50%. so miners will need double the amount of cards, same power / hashrate. it's insane might as well forget that GPU cards exist at MSRP for the remaining life of 30 series.

Thought i'd click on this news post... HOLY F*** !!!

qubitI was wondering about that. Reviews will tell us for sure if the block applies to more algorithms.

Also, there could be false positives and then there's the whole legal/moral grey area of NVIDIA restricting what you can do with a product that you legally bought.

The legal grey area with a company crippling a product you paid money for after you paid is a huge can of worms.

If the cryptocurrency bubble doesn't burst I believe legislators are going to have to step in from an energy use perspective at some point. I forget when and where I read it but I saw that the electricity wasted on cryptocurrency mining is greater than the entire energy consumption of Denmark, which is a pretty cold country of 6 million people.

I also read that mining, transporting ore, smelting and refining precious metals like gold - despite being hugely damaging to the environment and enormously wasteful - are 3-4x better value than cryptocurrency mining. That's right - crytocurrency mining is 3-4x worse than an already-awful benchmark of environmental damage and wastage. I'm not an eco-hippy but mining is quite literally just wasting terajoules energy for nothing - equivalent to 20,000,000 tons of oil burned a year. Why the hell do I even bother sorting my waste for recycling and switching to energy-saving bulbs? Compared to cryptocurrency mining it's like one man pissing on a country-sized wildfire.

It'll get to the point that cheap electricity will no longer be a government-subsidised utility, and will be sold for profit with the government instead giving rebates/credits to those unable to foot the bill. The way electricity is treated as a non-profit or profit-regulated essential service will stop if consumers are using it to generate free money.

TheDeeGeeThought i'd click on this news post... HOLY F*** !!!

That's algorithms for you. Article has "mining" as a topic, that means readers of that page are possibly interested in mining OMFG HAVE SOME MINING ADS.

Chrispy_That's algorithms for you. Article has "mining" as a topic, that means readers of that page are possibly interested in mining OMFG HAVE SOME MINING ADS.

You gets ads on the front page too, but I take your point.

TheDeeGeeThought i'd click on this news post... HOLY F*** !!!

I'm tempted to turn adblock back on on this site because of the nicehash ad.... this is the only site I've disabled adblock on, but I'm rethinking that decision.

neatfeatguyI'm tempted to turn adblock back on on this site because of the nicehash ad.... this is the only site I've disabled adblock on, but I'm rethinking that decision.

My adblockers are currently on; but this ad seems to circumvent them for the time being, I use Brave which blocks them by default with AB+ and uBlock Origin. I guess they really want us to see this crypto mining ad, yet at the same time pretend to care about gamers that can't get their hands on a card. lulz.

neatfeatguyI'm tempted to turn adblock back on on this site because of the nicehash ad.... this is the only site I've disabled adblock on, but I'm rethinking that decision.

Well, that screenshot was taken with uBlock Origin enabled.

Legacy-ZAMy adblockers are currently on; but this ad seems to circumvent them for the time being, I use Brave which blocks them by default with AB+ and uBlock Origin. I guess they really want us to see this crypto mining ad, yet at the same time pretend to care about gamers that can't get their hands on a card. lulz.

I noticed. Turned adblock on and the ad remained. I went the extra step and right clicked on the ad and chose "block this ad" and poof! Ad is now gone.

As for all these stupid extra cards Nvidia is trying to push out to deter mining, this won't help anyone....well, i mean, it'll still help miners. They'll take what they can get and I'm sure they'll circumvent any BIOS restrictions and locks and be back at using these GPUs at their fullest potential.

qubit"will likely restrict GPU supply if the cryptocurrency boom continues."

NVIDIA are using Ampere, because they care more about gamers than making money. /s

TPU advertise mining, you're preaching to the converted.